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Hi, I'm glad to find this group. I don't race, but I sure have fun sailing my old Sunfish on all the small lakes and inlets around Anchorage. Here's an idea I'll share: I have found that Jr. size hockey stick or canoe paddle shafts make ideal tiller extensions. They are laminated hardwood, made with waterproof glue, and are easy to shape and finish. Ice rinks and outfitters usually have a box of broken sticks and paddles waiting to be used as firewood. They may even be willing to part with one for the asking. Dan, AK ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1

A few photos of the inside of a Sunfish can be found posted in the Files section of this discussion group. Photos show two of the points where Sunfish sometimes develop leaks, the Mast Step and the Dagger Board Trunk. You can also view how the forward foam blocks are positioned and attached. Wood blocks used to back some of the deck hardware are also visible in a couple of the photos. In some shots you can see the heavy weave fiberglass cloth (woven roving) used to construct this hull. This particular Sunfish is a 1979 AMF. Not all editions of Sunfish are constructed using the exact materials seen in this boat, but they are all put together similarly. Adding an inspection port is recommended to help keep your Sunfish dry and in good repair. Instructions for installing an inspection port can be found on the Wind Line Sails website. www.windlinesail.com (Thanks Dan)

Hi Sunfish Sailors - I have a great time sailing my Sunfish and look forward to lots of good sailing this year. If you are in the Phoenix area come out and sail Lake Pleasant. Something I thought I'd share - the enthusiasm for Sunfish the local club promotes. http://www.arizonayachtclub.org/Education/CindyFoxJuniorsPhotos1014200 1.shtml Whit

Here's a fun way to learn an important sailing rule. Right-of-Way http://www.arizonayachtclub.org/Links/right.shtml Thanks to the Arizona Yacht Club for sharing this link.

Hi all, Does anyone know of a compass that will fit a Sunfish and isn't too expensive? We are going to sail Lake Powell for a week and I'm told a compass is a good thing to have along. I think I'd like to put one on the deck in front of the foot well. Anyone have any suggestions? Whitney Get your free email address at http://www.worldemail.com *** Worldemail.com DO NOT tolerate *spam* of any kind if this email is a *spam* please forward it to abuse@... ***

Whitney, Here are some basic compasses. These all mount on a flat surface. See if one of these will suit your needs. I understand that the Aquameter Sailor II has been used successfully on Sunfish. AIR GUIDE 1510020 West Marine $12.99 www.westmarine.com Suunto 51-ORCA Defender Marine $39.29 www.defender.com Aquameter Sailor II Wind Line Sails $45.00 www.windline.net Ritchie Voyager Tactician Sailnet $59.95 www.sailnet.com Enjoy your journey, Wayne expensive? good have

Hi Group Here's a rugged yet simple roof rack I'd like to share. I had been looking for a versitile roof rack for some time now. The racks I found most often are the Yakima and Thule brands. These look like fine racks and both have lots of really trick features and accessories but that all comes at a price. What I really wanted was rack that was a bit more in line with my modest budget. What I have found is something called "Quik-N-Easy Brackets". These brackets are the upright portion of a roof rack and you use them to create your own custom rack. Quick-N-Easy offers a crossbar for the uprights, but I'm told most people use 2x4's or a piece of plywood to create their own design. I put a photo (from an ad) in the file section of this group named QnE.jpg for anyone who would like to see the rack. I purchased a set of 4 uprights for about $60 (28.95/pr), added 2x4 crossbars for another $10 and some indoor/outdoor carpet scraps for padding. The uprights I bought fit rain gutters and I'm not sure if there is a model for gutterless vehicles. The rack was easy to assemble. The lumber yard cut the 2x4 to my measurments and I only needed a crescent wrench to install them using four 3/8 carriage bolts, lock washers, and anti-vibration nuts. In my searching I discovered that Quick-N-Easy brackets don't often appear in catalogs or dealers where the other roof racks do. Where I found my set was at a Kayak and Raft supplier. My Sunfish sits solidly on the new rack - just what I was looking for. Dan AK

Hi Keith, Loading a Fish single handed is next to impossible without doing damage to either the boat or the vehicle. Been there, done that. So far I have been fortunate enough to have a sailing partner and we assist one another loading and unloading. Yakama and Thule have extension arms that stick out beyond the vehicle from one of the crossbars for loading kayaks. The concept is that you boost one end of the boat up onto the extension and then lift the other end up and slide the boat onto the rack. Im thinking of trying a variation on the commercial rack design. So far Ive considered a pipe that runs diagonally from the far end of the rear crossbar to the near end of the front and then sticks out about 3 beyond. The difficulty is finding a pipe and attachments that will hold the weight. It may take a 2X4 instead of a pipe. If I try a 2X4 Im thinking that a pair of hinges with loose pins may work for attaching the aparatus. Once the boat is loaded, just pull the hinge pins and lash the loading board on the crossbars along side the mast and spars. Another loading idea Ive toyed with is a piece of carpeted plywood attached to the ends of the crossbars. The board would hang down one side of the vehicle a couple of feet and act as a ramp. Again the process is to lift one end of the boat up against the board and then go to the other and heft it up pushing the opposite end onto the crossbars in the process. With this idea I havent worked out just how the board is attached or where to put it when its not in use. Anyway, there are some thoughts on the single handed loading problem. Ill post more on the subject if I get around to trials. Dan --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax

Can anyone tell me if there is an advantage to replacing my wood daggerboard with one of those new fiberglass ones? Whitney AZ --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more

The new board is smoother, more streamlined, and longer. It makes a pretty big difference in boat speed. (You won't feel like you're going faster - but if you are sailing alongside another sunfish, whoever has the new board will sail by the one who doesn't.) It also allows you to point higher when you are beating, and makes you much less likely to get stuck in irons when tacking in heavy winds. Malcolm

I received this unsolicited email. Anyone who is interested in a used Sunfish located about 1 hour north of NYC, drop this guy an email!

As a newbie to the list, allow me to introduce myself along with a relatively simple question. I'm a rookie Sunfish owner living in Houston, TX. I recently acquired two 1980s vintage fish in excellent condition. As a father of four and an avid Sunfish sailor in my youth (ages 12-19) I am ecstatic. I have one racing sail and one stock sail, and the boats are both rigged for racing as near as I can tell (wire traveller with a center loop, mainssheet cam cleats center deck, racing flag interpretation decal, etc.). The boats are trailered in a "bunk bed" configuration: the bottom boat rests hull down on a conventional boat trailer setup equipped with one roller and a set of pulpits aft, while the upper boat is flipped over and rides on its deck on foam pipe insulation as a buffer. My dilemma: there is no space engineered on the trailer to carry the sails and masts comfortably. The previous owner wrapped the two lateen rigs and their masts in a canvas boat cover and lashed the whole miserable lump to one side of the trailer. While this is functional to a point, it requires unwrapping EVERYTHING just to get to one set of sails. It is also cumbersome and time consuming, especially with my limited repertoire of knots {grin}. I'm thinking of installing two PVC pipes, one in each of the upper corners of the trailer rack (underneath the tubes the top boat rests on) - one pipe for each sail/mast combination. In my mind, a threaded cap on the aft end will make stowing and retrieval much less of a frustration. My only worry is that the repetitive friction of sail against PVC during stowing and retrieval will cause some trouble I don't want down the road. (For the record, I currently wrap the mainsail around the boom, secure it with the sheet line, leaving the mast free.) Any input on this particular idea would be greatly appreciated. ALSO, any problems/liabilities to storing and transporting boats topside down? Fair winds, Nolan Habegger Houston, TX

Whitney, The bible is a reprint of three wonderful sunfish books. All three are now out of print, so Will White got all the copyright holders to agree to have their books published together as one book. Two of the books are about racing, and one is about both racing and cruising. For the most part they are aimed at someone who's interested in getting better at Sunfish racing, but will be interesting reading for anyone who's a fan of the boat. Full information is at http://www.sunfishclass.org/admin/sfbible.htm best, Malcolm

For the last 3 weeks I've been sailing the stuffing out of my 2 recently acquired 'Fish. Yesterday evening I was out in 10-17 mph and had lots of fun chasing a friend of mine around Lake Houston. On final approach to the boat ramp, I miscalculated the wind. When I pulled up my daggerboard, a shifting gust blew me right into the concrete slope that makes up the ramp. I now have 3 long and deep grooves in the gelcoat on the ridge that runs the length of the hull, and a couple "chips" (could just be gelcoat, as the fiber is visible but doesn't appear compromised) around the daggerboard hole. The chips could have occurred last weekend when the same boat got hung up over some submerged pilings in Galveston Bay. This particular boat has had past evidence of a leak (less than a US pint of water inside the front hull after 3 hours of sailing). Sunfish have a reputation for being tough, but reality tells me that they are not indestructible in the strictest sense of the word. I don't want to be obsessive about dings and scratches, but I DO want to preserve the integrity of the boat. What are some indicators that repair is necessary for quality purposes rather than aesthetics? Also, one of the masts has what sounds like about a cup of water in it. How do I get that out and keep it out? Thanks in advance for all the help. Fair winds and following seas, Nolan Habegger Houston, TX

Hello all, I'm from Turkey and sailing since 1980 at Marmara sea. I find myself so lucky to have a sea like Marmara because it has a very deep history and it is sea which has a all coast-line belongs to my country. It has very strong winds. I began to sailing with sunfish after 5 years windsurf took its place. But this year I (& some of my friends) decided to buy new sunfishs and travell across the Marmara sea with our tents to stay one night at Islands. Its very good to have a club like this I will share my adventures and photos with world-wide. We are using here Turkish made sunfishes. Inside off hull is a little bit different than I saw at some internet sites. I'll send you some hull photos also. If someone want to learn about sailing in Turkey ask me... See you..

Bulent Merhaba, Welcome to the group. I would like to learn about your sailing adventures and see photos of where you sail. Thank you, Wayne

I was born in Istanbul where it a big city which has air polution problem. Because of this and my alergy to dust and air polution, my parents decided to live at least at summer time, at a place near to the sea. And they choose a place at Marmara Sea name Sark?y (read as Sharkouy) I was so near to sea all the time, swimming, fishing, playing etc.. All that time, everybody was so disappointed about wheather conditions of Marmara Sea because it was too windy. Specially 15.th of July to 15.Th of August. Wind is coming from left side of shore and bringing big waves about 3mt high. About 20 years ago (I'm getting older) when I was an univercity student me, my big brother and a couple of my friends decided to sail but has no equipment. Having a very small wood boat (about 1.5meter long) we decided to build a sailing boat. A local carpenter made us a very nice mast about 2.5meter long. And steeling the curtains of our house from mom ve made our sails. That season we sailed when ever we want and don't want. Boat was getting broken and we were fixing it at sea whith a halp of hammer and nails. It was so funny, there was a big engineering problem because it was not turning so we have to jump to sea and make it turn. Next season my dad decided to buy me a SunFish because of the troubles that we have. Until that time I didn't know there was a boat called sunfish on earth. I was struggling with my univ. exams, my dad and my big brother went to Izmir (a city) to bring the Sunfish to ?ark?y. Few days later I was on it. The feeling was so great, we were two people on it (me and my brother) and it was running like on grease. Suddenly, when we want to jibe (turn) the boat turned upside down and my brother shouted me "see what have you done!?@" and began to swim to coast. I didn't know what I should do. (As being a engineer) I pushed to draggerboard to turn it. And I succeded. It was my first time making love with Sunfish, holding it, turning it, undurstanding it. But it was not the last. TO BE CONTINUED

Hi everybody, I'm a Dad with a 10 year old daughter in summer camp learning how to sail this year. I went out and bought a fixer-upper (spent 50 bucks) pre-95 Sunfish. Needs some work but that's no big deal. I was hoping somebody could give me some advice on where to buy parts. I've seen APS racing out of Annapolis, there's got to be more. I build boats for a living if anybody has any questions about repair work I'd be glad to help out all I can. We plan on sailing on the lakes in Central Florida and the West Coast of Florida Thanks, Jeff