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Hiya fellow Subagonites?:

I have seen said conversion done, and it looks pretty good. The one I
saw had a cooling system that seemed cobbled together, and the
harness was not quite as pretty as I would have liked. How well it
ran I don't know - as it was still being worked on.

I do know that there is a problem setting up the timing with these
engines - and it requires knowing the correct mark - which is not the
mark on the pulley. My pal had to go to a Subaru shop, and they
explained the trick - I don't personally know it.

As we all know, there is difficulty with the wiring harness
fabrication - my pal who did the conv used the wiring diagram - which
contained at least one proven error.

Now that the preliminaries are out of the way - here's my thought:

How about just using the connectors on the harness, and fabricating a
new harness from scratch?

To me, it sure looks easier and faster than tracing leads in a
squashed spider web!

The only caveat is, are all the 2.2 litre installations using the
same ecu and components?

If they are, it sure makes life easier.

If not, the thing to do is to try and gather information on the
various FI/engine managements systems.

With that information, we potentially could:

1. work out the details for doing different installations, or;
2. work to a common standard, encorporating the potentially
different systems into a " flexible harness" design;
3. Hopefully, all the 2.2 litre systems could be made the same, and
there will be no need to create several harness designs.

What do you think?

Marshall Ruskin
Winnipeg, Canada
84 Westy "Iron Igloo"

Marshall Ruskin wrote:

Hiya fellow Subagonites?:

I have seen said conversion done, and it looks pretty good.

Marshall,
There are differences in the ECU for manual and automatic trans', and
wiring color codes change with no discernible pattern as to year or
model. Why this happened, I'm not sure, but it sure raises cain with
standardization.
Are you considering doing the swap?
Larry

Marshall Ruskin wrote:

Hiya fellow Subagonites?:

I have seen said conversion done, and it looks pretty good.

Marshall,
There are differences in the ECU for manual and automatic trans', and
wiring color codes change with no discernible pattern as to year or
model. Why this happened, I'm not sure, but it sure raises cain with
standardization.
Are you considering doing the swap?
Larry

Yes, I am thinking about it seriously.

In Canada, we don't have ready access to the parts market US listees do, so
it's gonna be tougher to get the used components.

Also, I haven't seen the wiring diagram yet, so I cannot comment on the
schematic conventions that are present in it. In other words, I don't know
if it makes any sense. As I said in an earlier post - there is at least one
error that my friend in Iowas discovered.

If I had a good schematic - and the connectors, I'd just build a new
harness - probably a morning's work.

I'l have to buy the schematic, I guess, unless others have it on photocopy's
already.

Marshall

Marshall Ruskin wrote:

Are you considering doing the swap?
Larry

Yes, I am thinking about it seriously.

In Canada, we don't have ready access to the parts market US listees do

Marshall,
The KEP wiring diagram is a layout that provides a drawing of what the
final harness should look like. You can place the ECU, plugs, and wires
on the full sized drawing to get the harness to match.
The Chilton manual for the Legacy has several pages of actual schematics
that help a bunch in double checking your work, but the wiring color
codes aren't always correct.
I also considered building my own, but the lack of plugs meant a lot of
wire splicing, meaning many chances at mistakes and many joints to go
bad later.
Keep an eye out for a wrecked Legacy with a good engine for sale. That's
the best way to ensure the wiring harness will fit the engine.
Larry

Larry,

I spoke w/ Kennedy about using a Subaru ECU from a automatic v. a manual. He
said that it didn't make any difference. Have you heard/seen different? I have
a manaul Westy and the engine/ECU/harness is from an automatic.

Mike Barfield
'84 Westy
Tampa, FL

Mike Barfield wrote:

I spoke w/ Kennedy about using a Subaru ECU from a automatic v. a manual. He
said that it didn't make any difference. Have you heard/seen different? I have
a manaul Westy and the engine/ECU/harness is from an automatic.

Mike,
It doesn't matter if you have a manual trans in the Vanagon, but I think
the ECU needs to match the engine and wiring harness. In other words,
the ECU's differ slightly depending on whether they CAME from an auto or
a manual. It probably only becomes significant if you are trying to
eliminate all the Suby error reports. See:



for the Meyers' report on their conversions and a discussion of ironing
out all the trouble codes.
Good luck in your search for a good Legacy,
Larry