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On 4/3/2012 6:10 PM, Brent Weide wrote:

Terry: My recommendation - as per my writeup, is that the tdi starter
is far superior to the stock vanagon starter. My vanagon starter was
fresh so my comparison is new against new.
I believe you'll appreciate the torque in the tdi starter, especially
when your engine is warm.
Brent

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Sean Garrett <doit.outdoors@...
<mailto:doit.outdoors%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

I have a stock starter in my 1987 Syncro (2.5also), been working

fine for years (knock on wood)

Sean G


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From: Terry <gannont15@... <mailto:gannont15%40yahoo.com>>
To: subaruvanagon@...

<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 4:24 PM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: TDI Starter Swap Report



i have a 1991 Westy Syncro with it's second 2.5L soon to be

installed. I was running into the same problem before the motor blew.

I was planning on putting in a NEW STOCK started form my van. I

recall reading somewhere it had enough crankin power.

Should I go with the TDI or stick with the stock guy. I do not

believe there is much of a difference in price.

Thanks

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<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>, Brent Weide
<brent.weide@...> wrote:

1991 VW Vanagon w/ Automatic Transmission
1999 Phase 1 DOHC EJ25.
Stock Vanagon Starter: (Bosch SR25X)

After my 99 DOHC EJ25 had been running for awhile and was well warmed
up i'd notice that more often than not, the stock starter would
struggle to turn the engine over. Gave the symptoms of a tired
battery and urged me to issue a silent plea in order to get her to
fire up. She always did but not without at least a little worry.
I did research on the following possible replacement options:
65-89 Porsche 911 Bosch SR68X (fits with modifications to mating flange
Gear Reduction Starter
TDI Starter (requires adaptor plate) SR0409X or SR0408X (fits
1998-2003 TDI Beetles. MK-4 Body Style 1999.5-2003 Golf and Jetta)

I ended up going with the TDI starter and adaptor flange. I chose the
SR0409X model starter as it has a bit more power. I found it out on
ebay for about $86 USD including shipping.
I purchased my adaptor flange from Westy Ventures
(). I paid $72 USD including
shipping.

Result:
The installation was a breeze. I did have to build a small pigtail
which allowed me to feed my ignition line and subaru ecu start signal
wires to the starter. I also had to modify my vanagon alternator wire
connector a bit to allow it to fit on the shorter stud on the new
starter. The rest was a simple process of bolting up the flange and
starter and testing.
The sound of the starter is very different than the stock vanagon
starter which takes some getting used to. It turns the engine much
faster and starts her up quicker. There is absolutely no strain with
a warm engine anymore. It turns the engine as fast as, or faster
than, the subaru starter when the engine was still in it's donor car.
I'd recommend this replacement to anyone who is experiencing symptoms
like i did and wants to improve starting performance.

All the best,
Brent



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Portland, Oregon
www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/

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--- In subaruvanagon@..., "Terry" <gannont15@...> wrote:

hey thre,

so i purchased a motor this weekend from a private party changin his rs to a wrx. since the motor was sprayed and cleaned i cannot tell where leaks may have been.

the sellers suggestion was the oil pan gasket, valve cover gasket adn the seal around the plugs. do you agree?

the motor has 117K on it was was "running well". any other suggestions on what to do outta the van while its on a stand. i was think at least check the timing belt for wear. what's the suggested timing belt mileage timeframe?

i'm am planning on an exhaust too so trying to keep the cost down currently.

Also, i had a conversion done in denver a few years back and those that installed the motor DID NOT use the reverse coolant manifold and rather plummed the hoses in the original set up (air cone positioned to its original VW spot). the car ran for about 20k at i believe normal temp. i was planning on using scan tool or installing the VW coolant sensor for a temp gauge. is that doable with out a reversent manifold?

would the suggestions be to stick wiht the norm and spend a bit of money on replumming the coolant hoses.

thanks
T

On 4/3/2012 6:10 PM, Brent Weide wrote:

Terry: My recommendation - as per my writeup, is that the tdi starter
is far superior to the stock vanagon starter. My vanagon starter was
fresh so my comparison is new against new.
I believe you'll appreciate the torque in the tdi starter, especially
when your engine is warm.
Brent

--- In subaruvanagon@..., Brent Weide <brent.weide@...> wrote:

1991 VW Vanagon w/ Automatic Transmission
1999 Phase 1 DOHC EJ25.
Stock Vanagon Starter: (Bosch SR25X)

After my 99 DOHC EJ25 had been running for awhile and was well warmed
up i'd notice that more often than not, the stock starter would
struggle to turn the engine over. Gave the symptoms of a tired
battery and urged me to issue a silent plea in order to get her to
fire up. She always did but not without at least a little worry.
I did research on the following possible replacement options:
65-89 Porsche 911 Bosch SR68X (fits with modifications to mating flange
Gear Reduction Starter
TDI Starter (requires adaptor plate) SR0409X or SR0408X (fits
1998-2003 TDI Beetles. MK-4 Body Style 1999.5-2003 Golf and Jetta)

I ended up going with the TDI starter and adaptor flange. I chose the
SR0409X model starter as it has a bit more power. I found it out on
ebay for about $86 USD including shipping.
I purchased my adaptor flange from Westy Ventures
(). I paid $72 USD including
shipping.

Result:
The installation was a breeze. I did have to build a small pigtail
which allowed me to feed my ignition line and subaru ecu start signal
wires to the starter. I also had to modify my vanagon alternator wire
connector a bit to allow it to fit on the shorter stud on the new
starter. The rest was a simple process of bolting up the flange and
starter and testing.
The sound of the starter is very different than the stock vanagon
starter which takes some getting used to. It turns the engine much
faster and starts her up quicker. There is absolutely no strain with
a warm engine anymore. It turns the engine as fast as, or faster
than, the subaru starter when the engine was still in it's donor car.
I'd recommend this replacement to anyone who is experiencing symptoms
like i did and wants to improve starting performance.

All the best,
Brent



--
Brent Weide
Portland, Oregon
www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "Steve" <stevebettyjeff@...> wrote:

I own a 1990 Syncro Adventurewagen. I live in Rhode Island.

Where can I get a 2.5L engine and where can I get it installed?

Thanks,

Steve Miller

--- On Tue, 4/3/12, Brent Weide <brent.weide@...> wrote:

From: Brent Weide <brent.weide@...>
Subject: [subaruvanagon] TDI Starter Swap Report
To: subaruvanagon@...
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 11:19 AM
















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1991 VW Vanagon w/ Automatic Transmission

1999 Phase 1 DOHC EJ25.

Stock Vanagon Starter: (Bosch SR25X)



After my 99 DOHC EJ25 had been running for awhile and was well warmed

up i'd notice that more often than not, the stock starter would

struggle to turn the engine over. Gave the symptoms of a tired

battery and urged me to issue a silent plea in order to get her to

fire up. She always did but not without at least a little worry.

I did research on the following possible replacement options:

65-89 Porsche 911 Bosch SR68X (fits with modifications to mating flange

Gear Reduction Starter

TDI Starter (requires adaptor plate) SR0409X or SR0408X (fits

1998-2003 TDI Beetles. MK-4 Body Style 1999.5-2003 Golf and Jetta)



I ended up going with the TDI starter and adaptor flange. I chose the

SR0409X model starter as it has a bit more power. I found it out on

ebay for about $86 USD including shipping.

I purchased my adaptor flange from Westy Ventures

(). I paid $72 USD including

shipping.



Result:

The installation was a breeze. I did have to build a small pigtail

which allowed me to feed my ignition line and subaru ecu start signal

wires to the starter. I also had to modify my vanagon alternator wire

connector a bit to allow it to fit on the shorter stud on the new

starter. The rest was a simple process of bolting up the flange and

starter and testing.

The sound of the starter is very different than the stock vanagon

starter which takes some getting used to. It turns the engine much

faster and starts her up quicker. There is absolutely no strain with

a warm engine anymore. It turns the engine as fast as, or faster

than, the subaru starter when the engine was still in it's donor car.

I'd recommend this replacement to anyone who is experiencing symptoms

like i did and wants to improve starting performance.



All the best,

Brent



--

Brent Weide

Portland, Oregon

www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/

























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--- In subaruvanagon@..., "theoldred90" <tbmccarney@...> wrote:

Hello,
I have about 500 miles on my new conversion, 1996 2.2 legacy.I am loving it, keeping up with traffic is great.

The only problem i am having is i cannot get my scanguage II to work well.
It updates slow, regardless of the setting and will not stay on for more then 10 seconds. It is van related b/c in my wifes car it works perfect.

I used small car directions and have checked the wiring and cant seem to find the problem. Has anyone else had this problem before? Let me know, or please help point me in the right direction.

thanks

On 4/3/2012 10:42 AM, Brent Weide wrote:

One additional note:
I've a layout sheet diagram which approximates the vanagon engine bay
that can be transferred to a plastic or paper sheet that can help you
with laying out your harness.
Here it is:
Here's a diagram showing component locations:


Here's a diagram showing lengths/measurements between
components/intersections in the harness:


Note: The diagrams are stated as being pertinent to a 90-94 EJ22 but
are also relevant to later model engines.

brent

At 11:05 PM +0000 4/2/12, theoldred90 wrote:

Hello,
I have about 500 miles on my new conversion, 1996 2.2 legacy.I am
loving it, keeping up with traffic is great.

The only problem i am having is i cannot get my scanguage II to work well.
It updates slow, regardless of the setting and will not stay on for
more then 10 seconds. It is van related b/c in my wifes car it works
perfect.

I used small car directions and have checked the wiring and cant
seem to find the problem. Has anyone else had this problem before?
Let me know, or please help point me in the right direction.

thanks