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Re: Oil pressure sender location pics
jimhilton40
The Subaru oil pressure sender is just below the alternator (at least on a 2.2) You have to create an extension from that threaded source on the block (about 2") so there will be clearance for the sender unit. Sorry no picture. I used a couple of brass nipples with 35* bends and rethreaded the fitting to suit the Subaru thread.
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Re: No 12v power to fridge question Westy/2.2
Scott Daniel - Turbovans
not likely .
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here is how I have this circuit in my mind. the original set up is clever.. as it only energizes that relay after the engine is running and the alternator is charging .. exactly what you'd want with a high load such as fridge on 12volts or a house battery being charged. Very nice. the subaru alternator will not do that like the vanagon one did. one conversion shop told me once...'we just run ignition on voltage to that terminal of the relay ..where the blue wire was.'. this will work, but only sort of. It energizes the relay as soon as you turn the key on. if the relay was connected to a somewhat discharged house battery ..you'd be connecting that low battery to your starting battery just by turning on the key, not good. I like things very simple.. personally I would probably have a switch sending voltage to that pin of the relay .. so it would be energized when I want it to be, and only then. I would probably use '15' ign on voltage so the relay could not be energized with the key off. On 4/26/2012 7:20 AM, jimhilton40 wrote:
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Re: How to start with electrical
Scott Daniel - Turbovans
my thoughts ..
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if doing the EFI wiring , get a good wiring diagram for the engine management system. then 'start at Pin 1' on the ecu. Write out a list, for each pin and wire ....like # 6, small red/white...........goes to # 4 injector, or whatever. Do that for every pin on the ECU. Check each wire Three Times. a really nice way to do it is have your engine on an engine stand right next to your wiring harness table.. then as you build or connect each wire, continuity check all the way from the ecu pin to the device on the engine ....so you know there is contact through the engine plugs. ( I've seen contact not get made in them on a wire or two ) on a typical 2.2 harness, re-arrange the engine harness wires so the engine plugs are on the left side of the throttle body ...as viewed standing at the rear of the van .. . Put the ecu under the back seat, on the left side, like it is on all 86 and later waterboxer vanagons. I like subaru fuel and main relays under the back seat, Put the Ignitor on the left firewall, just like it is on the subaru car or waterboxer engine layout. To interface the engine's systems with the van ..I use KEP's instructions. it's not many items.. there's the alternator, temp gauge, oil pressure light ( for these I like to go directly from the engine compartment junction box to the sender on the engine ...and not go through the subaru engine conenctors. And a few others i'm not thinking of right now. anything like tachometer.. leave that completely out of the picture until you have a properly running engine, then do embellisyhments like that last. Actually .. don't wrap the harness or install it in the van until you see the engine run and work right .. just in case you have to take it back out to go over it. do nice work ! scott On 4/26/2012 5:46 AM, UDO SILLE wrote:
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Little help reading 2001 Forester Wiring Diagram in files
Hi,
I'm using the PDF diagram in the files section loaded by Brent. Anyway, on page 23 (page 34 of the actual manual) I came across a question: I cut the Red/Yellow striped wire coming off of the Sensor Ground joint connector. The diagram says this goes to the "A" path. What is the "A" path?? Sorry if this is a dummy question. Many thanks, Joel |
Re: How to start with electrical
Rob
I needed both.
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Rob becida@... At 4/27/2012 05:28 AM,UDO SILLE wrote:
No, not the Kennedy diagram. I recommend getting the actual Subaru diagram. |
Re: SVX: Idle Fixed; Still Hesitates though...
It seems I've been dealing with off & on rough idle for a couple years (yet my van ran well both on highway and around town). After a road trip hauling 1,000 lbs of auto parts from Truckee to Boulder (engine barely felt the load), and then another long trip from Truckee to Mt Bachelor, one of my coils failed completely 3 miles from home base. After replacing this single coil, the van idles smooth (and runs the same as ever on the highway).
Re low rpm drivability, I love the wide rpm range the SVX/Subaru design allows. My engine sees the occasional 6K+ blip, but I often test the lower rpm limit .. as low as 1750 in 4th and even a tad lower in 3rd. No bucking at this low rpm when held at steady speed on flats (but I certainly downshift if wanting to quickly accelerate, or if encountering a hill). |
Re: SVX MPG
I just did a mpg check on my 85 vanagon with the 3.3 svx engine and was averaging 16.7mpg on the interstate...
________________________________ From: Derek Hall <nofdhall@...> To: "subaruvanagon@..." <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] SVX MPG ? 92 SVX into 86 MT vanagon ? I too get about 20-21mpg on highway only @ 55-60 mph 16-18 mpg?whether have my foot in it or not around town ? Derek From: hisport <griffinjohnm@...> To: subaruvanagon@... Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:57 PM Subject: [subaruvanagon] SVX MPG ? Bob: I have a couple of SVX correspondents reporting ~20mpg highway, but pretty sure this is at 55 - 60 mph steady. Seems doable, as my 17 mpg to date is av 70+ mph, with a van that ain't running right (yet) IMHO, vanagon (esp westy) mileage is more a function of lousy aerodynamics than cylinder count. My clapped out 1.9L WBX didn't do any better than 17, albeit WFO most of the time. --- In subaruvanagon@..., Robert Stevens <mtbiker62@...> wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: SVX: Idle Fixed; Still Hesitates though...
Thanks for the additional info
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I'll post the results of my search for a fix, and will try the ECU reset trick using the method you discovered. --- In subaruvanagon@..., "John" <lagunarace@...> wrote:
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Re: SVX: Idle Fixed; Still Hesitates though...
Thanks!
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I used to use a Sun raster scope in the bad old days of coil/distributor/points ignition systems. Sounds as if it might still be handy Down in Hilton Head this weekend, but I will run these tests when back home to NC next week --- In subaruvanagon@..., "Don" <dkveuro@...> wrote:
- The sound you reference is high tension clicking? Coil voltage arcing to ground rather than firing the plug? Most easily heard while revving motor with stethoscope on plug coil?-------------------------------------------------- |
Re: SVX: Idle Fixed; Still Hesitates though...
- The sound you reference is high tension clicking? Coil voltage arcing to ground rather than firing the plug? Most easily heard while revving motor with stethoscope on plug coil?-------------------------------------------------- Right...Listen to the coil spark jumping to ground. Usually the coil has suffered heat and no longer sound. I always use manufactures coils on any vehicle needing them. Unless installing a MSD or Mallory system. --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- Yes. listen for crackle of spark/s as rpm's increase . ------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- If the coil is obviously bleeding replace all, but if cracked, just the cracked coil. ------------------------------------------------------- Fuel c/o% closer to 12 to 1 decrease the voltage required to push the spark across the gap. At idle, the voltage is around 12,000 to 14,000 volts but under load can require 20,000 volts and more. As the engine rev's at 3000 rpm in N voltage can drop to 8,000 volts. If voltage remains high either lean or too big spark gap or wire resistance. 1000 to 1500 ohms per foot in plug wires if I use MSD Street wires. R type plugs help fire the plug too. Most late EFI equipped engines require resistive plugs to reduce emi. ------------------------------------------------------------ |
Re: SVX: Idle Fixed; Still Hesitates though...
John, its a 92. I lost the pickup on my Small Car VSS and didn't know it. About that time I install a chip and thought my problem was cured. Almost two years later I discovered the missing pickup, installed the new VSS and had the problem again and realized it wasn't the chip that fixed it. This time when I disconnected the VSS I got the code. I runs fine without the VSS and the idle speed was stable, in park/neutral and correct in drive, but it bothered me that I was now getting a CEL and code 27. It was only when I ran without the VSS and then reconnected it while the engine was idleing that the CEL went away(instantly I might add) and it didn't start running bad, instead it ran like it did without the VSS. For this reason I believe the poor running, the CEL and code 27 and the VSS were related and relates to ECU learning and resetting. It may be that the ECU can learn to work with or without a VSS. Just how to cause that to happen I don't know, nor do I know if this would be the case with all SVX ECUs. I use premium, never tried the 87 octane feature of the chip. Thought I would point out the economics of premium vs. regular.
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Re: SVX MPG
what size tire are you running?
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I've never gotten better than 16mpg out of either of my SVX conversions. I tried smaller tires (which made a different on the Tiico conversion), but on the SVX, it made no difference. On Apr 26, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Derek Hall wrote:
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Re: SVX: Idle Fixed; Still Hesitates though...
Don: Great suggestions; I will do this.
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- The sound you reference is high tension clicking? Coil voltage arcing to ground rather than firing the plug? Most easily heard while revving motor with stethoscope on plug coil? Water spray bottle in the dark: Look for high tension leakage to ground when revving motor? (Like a bad set of plug wires on a foggy day?) Always use OE subaru replacement coils? Do you typically replace all if one or two are failing? Disconnect O2 sensors. If stumbling improves, then bad coil(s) indicated? (as richer mix is easier to fire?) Appreciate the advice. --- In subaruvanagon@..., "Don" <dkveuro@...> wrote:
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Re: SVX: Idle Fixed; Still Hesitates though...
You might try this : Run up the motor. Open the rear hatch and with a hose or stethoscope, listen around the coils as you pick up the rpm's.
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Listen for a ticking...not the EVAP Valve. It is not uncommon for the coils to break down.( Most replacement coils read very low ohms, below the Subaru specs if you check the new ones..) As the engine picks up under load, the ECU leans out the fueling to the point it becomes hard to fire off. If the coils are not up to snuff, they fail to spark the plug/s under these conditions. Another way of checking coils is to spray them with water from a spay bottle....best done in the dark as then you'll see the spark/s. Another check you can make is to disconnect the O2. This will cause the fueling to richen up slightly. test drive to check fro any change. reconnect O2 after test and clear code/s if set.
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Re: SVX MPG
92 SVX into 86 MT vanagon
? I too get about 20-21mpg on highway only @ 55-60 mph 16-18 mpg?whether have my foot in it or not around town ? Derek From: hisport <griffinjohnm@...> To: subaruvanagon@... Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:57 PM Subject: [subaruvanagon] SVX MPG ? Bob: I have a couple of SVX correspondents reporting ~20mpg highway, but pretty sure this is at 55 - 60 mph steady. Seems doable, as my 17 mpg to date is av 70+ mph, with a van that ain't running right (yet) IMHO, vanagon (esp westy) mileage is more a function of lousy aerodynamics than cylinder count. My clapped out 1.9L WBX didn't do any better than 17, albeit WFO most of the time. --- In subaruvanagon@..., Robert Stevens <mtbiker62@...> wrote:
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Re: SVX Hesitation
Thanks Neil
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I will try one of these chips, though I feel that the forum archives are a bit inconclusive as to whether they fully address the hesitation problem (or perhaps just make it a little less horrible?) Sure like to fix the basic problem, THEN take advantage of the chip benefits. I have an extra SVX ECU, and may do a comparison. John (separate post; this thread)seems to have fixed the problem by tricking the ECU into reprogramming itself, somehow. --- In subaruvanagon@..., "Neil" <furrylittleotter@...> wrote:
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Re: SVX: Idle Fixed; Still Hesitates though...
John
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Very interesting! The plot thickens... So, you ran for a couple of weeks without VSS, then hooked it up to the ECU (with your van running). CEL went out, and the van has run properly ever since (no hesitation?) Was your idle speed OK and stable without VSS? Did you also get code 33 with VSS disconnected? What year is your SVX motor/ECU? Do you not use premium? (I wasn't clear on this; some threads suggest knock sensors are kicking back ign advance, creating hesitation upon acceleration) --- In subaruvanagon@..., "John" <lagunarace@...> wrote:
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