Morning Christoph. ?I put together a few notes related to upgrading your engine from a 98 DOHC ej25 to a 04 SOHC ej25.
Kennedy Adapter plate Direct swap. Engine Mount Should be able to directly swap. ?I’d suggest new mount/pads while you’re in there. Wiring Harness You’ll need to remove your old harness. ?Reconvert/install new 04 harness and all related electricals. Intake ducting Direct swap Coolant Plumbing Direct swap
Oil Pan Direct swap
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On Jan 9, 2025, at 9:18?PM, Christoph Altehoefer via groups.io <cac@...> wrote:
I’m planning on doing another engine conversion on my ‘91 MT Vanagon. Currently I have a ?EJ 25 DOHC from a 1998 Forester. I could have a low mileage 2004 Imprezza engine. My question is, can I use my current Kennedy adapter plate and all the other components? They are both EJ 25 engines, except the new one is a SOHC. I also have the complete wiring harness from the Imprezza.?
Thanks for your help.?
Christoph
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I also am running the KEP adapter and when I ordered it they said the adapter would fit the EJ22 and EJ25 with no issues. Mine is a EJ25 from a 05 Impreza and had zero problems with the adapter fitment whatsoever. The engine cradle is another issue altogether.?
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On Jan 9, 2025, at 9:28?PM, connor warren via groups.io <connor_warren59@...> wrote:
? I’m running a KEP adapter plate, flywheel, pressure plate, carrier bar, and clutch on my 2006 Impreza SOHC EJ253. I initially used it on an EJ22. I’ve heard the EJ engines in Vanagons described as legos, and I feel it’s an accurate metaphor.?
Point being, it should work no problem. But maybe give KEP a call to confirm.?
On Jan 9, 2025, at 7:18?PM, Christoph Altehoefer via groups.io <cac@...> wrote:
? I’m planning on doing another engine conversion on my ‘91 MT Vanagon. Currently I have a ?EJ 25 DOHC from a 1998 Forester. I could have a low mileage 2004 Imprezza engine. My question is, can I use my current Kennedy adapter plate and all the other components? They are both EJ 25 engines, except the new one is a SOHC. I also have the complete wiring harness from the Imprezza.?
Thanks for your help.?
Christoph
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I’m running a KEP adapter plate, flywheel, pressure plate, carrier bar, and clutch on my 2006 Impreza SOHC EJ253. I initially used it on an EJ22. I’ve heard the EJ engines in Vanagons described as legos, and I feel it’s an accurate metaphor.?
Point being, it should work no problem. But maybe give KEP a call to confirm.?
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On Jan 9, 2025, at 7:18?PM, Christoph Altehoefer via groups.io <cac@...> wrote:
? I’m planning on doing another engine conversion on my ‘91 MT Vanagon. Currently I have a ?EJ 25 DOHC from a 1998 Forester. I could have a low mileage 2004 Imprezza engine. My question is, can I use my current Kennedy adapter plate and all the other components? They are both EJ 25 engines, except the new one is a SOHC. I also have the complete wiring harness from the Imprezza.?
Thanks for your help.?
Christoph
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I’m planning on doing another engine conversion on my ‘91 MT Vanagon. Currently I have a ?EJ 25 DOHC from a 1998 Forester. I could have a low mileage 2004 Imprezza engine. My question is, can I use my current Kennedy adapter plate and all the other components? They are both EJ 25 engines, except the new one is a SOHC. I also have the complete wiring harness from the Imprezza.?
Thanks for your help.?
Christoph
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Re: What oil (brand and viscosity) are folks using?
I use 10W-30 synthetic non-detergent. Valvoline is usually my brand of choice, but I'm not stuck on it.
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What oil (brand and viscosity) are folks using?
Hi!
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I have a 1990 Westy GL AT with an EJ22 conversion.
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What oil are folks using in the Suby engines?
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
I considered a (license plate door) extended dipstick when doing my SVX swap years ago, but the kit was so sketchy I gave it a pass.? Glad I did, as the engine has never used a drop of oil (between 5,000 mile changes). Engine now has ~ 90 K miles. My other cars don't either, and three of them (M3, XJR, Tundra) are well over 150K miles. Had a 911 that used oil from new, and got rid of it for just this reason. Hate having to add oil...
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
Yup, NorthWesty has that item back-ordered so not sure what that means. I
also like the fact that it holds 6 quarts but I’m not sure if that plays foul
with oil pressure.
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From: ANDREW via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2025 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [SubaruVanagon] How are folks topping off oil
levels?
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That northwesty oil pan is a thing of beauty I saw one in person a number
of years ago at their shop. As I understand it they stopped making it before I
saw it so I'd be surprised if it's still available
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.... The other issue is it only works with small car engine mount. It does
not work the Kennedy or other amounts
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Andy Vanis
505-304-5306 USA and
WhatsApp
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2025, 12:12?PM Peter Gibson via
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Hi, John!
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I originally had the SCP flexible dipstick, but could never get a solid
bead of oil in the tube. I ended up swapping over to their metal dipstick
which works much better. In fact, I don't think SCP even stocks the older
flexibly dipstick any more.
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I did some more research over the lat few days. Some vendors that make
their own oil pans are coming up with a design that integrates the fill port
with the dipstick, so you can now fill oil from behind the license plate.
Smart idea, and I wish more vendors would have done the same. Here's
It's a bit steep so I'm not opting to get it, but it's nice to know there
aolutions out there.
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
That northwesty oil pan is a thing of beauty I saw one in person a number of years ago at their shop. As I understand it they stopped making it before I saw it so I'd be surprised if it's still available?
.... The other issue is it only works with small car engine mount. It does not work the Kennedy or other amounts
Andy Vanis?
505-304-5306 USA and WhatsApp
On Sun, Jan 5, 2025, 12:12?PM Peter Gibson via <soquel.dude= [email protected]> wrote: Hi, John!
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I originally had the SCP flexible dipstick, but could never get a solid bead of oil in the tube. I ended up swapping over to their metal dipstick which works much better. In fact, I don't think SCP even stocks the older flexibly dipstick any more.
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I did some more research over the lat few days. Some vendors that make their own oil pans are coming up with a design that integrates the fill port with the dipstick, so you can now fill oil from behind the license plate. Smart idea, and I wish more vendors would have done the same. Here's
It's a bit steep so I'm not opting to get it, but it's nice to know there aolutions out there.
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
Hi, Richard!
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I talked to Steve some time agoo when I was planning my conversion. Great guy with a lot of information!
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I my situation, my Ej22 (1993 Legacy) was rebuilt by SCP and does not use any/close to none oil. My problem is topping the oil off on the road, where everything in the back hatch has to be moved in order to get the engine lid off. That is a royal PIA to me.
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I've ordered the pump I described from Amazon, and you can read about it . It should be fine topping off oil through the dipstick guide tube. I mean, how do you top off AT fluid without going through the dipstick tube?
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
Hi, John!
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I originally had the SCP flexible dipstick, but could never get a solid bead of oil in the tube. I ended up swapping over to their metal dipstick which works much better. In fact, I don't think SCP even stocks the older flexibly dipstick any more.
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I did some more research over the lat few days. Some vendors that make their own oil pans are coming up with a design that integrates the fill port with the dipstick, so you can now fill oil from behind the license plate. Smart idea, and I wish more vendors would have done the same. Here's
It's a bit steep so I'm not opting to get it, but it's nice to know there aolutions out there.
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
Typically, but not always, bad rings will be accompanied by or cause some other issues. It becomes "while you're in there" deal. The engine will need to come apart to get to the pistons and inspect the rings.
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
Jumping in, hopefully not interrupting this thread. My ‘87 conversion tends to drink oil as well. no leaks, but I have to check oil levels regularly. I understand this is usually due to the rings. I’m no mechanic - what does it cost to fix leaking rings? How big a job is this? Trying to get some perspective on how I should be thinking about this issue.?
Thx Tc
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On Jan 5, 2025, at 8:53?AM, John A via groups.io <xstreamcanadian@...> wrote:
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I agree that a properly built motor shouldnt be burning through oil like that. The donor car i bought and then drove for a bit had 240000kms on it, a sligh HG leak and it went through very little oil?
I guess everybody's situation is different.? For me with an EJ22 (1994 Legacy) rebuilt to Zero Miles by Steve Johnson (S&S Performance) in Alpine San Diego area...my oil consumption is nil after 5000 miles when I change it.? Now with 75K miles.? Excellent performance
too.? So my question would be?...was this a newly rebuilt motor for you or a transfer from a donor with no overhaul?
On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 05:05:38 PM PST, Jake de Villiers via groups.io <subyjake@...> wrote:
Mmm. My engine uses a quart every ~2000 miles or so, so I go in there every thousand miles and check.
Doesn't seem like a chore to me, just something I need to do.
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
I agree that a properly built motor shouldnt be burning through oil like that. The donor car i bought and then drove for a bit had 240000kms on it, a sligh HG leak and it went through very little oil?
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I guess everybody's situation is different.? For me with an EJ22 (1994 Legacy) rebuilt to Zero Miles by Steve Johnson (S&S Performance) in Alpine San Diego area...my oil consumption is nil after 5000 miles when I change it.? Now with 75K miles.? Excellent performance
too.? So my question would be?...was this a newly rebuilt motor for you or a transfer from a donor with no overhaul?
On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 05:05:38 PM PST, Jake de Villiers via groups.io <subyjake@...> wrote:
Mmm. My engine uses a quart every ~2000 miles or so, so I go in there every thousand miles and check.
Doesn't seem like a chore to me, just something I need to do.
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
I guess everybody's situation is different.? For me with an EJ22 (1994 Legacy) rebuilt to Zero Miles by Steve Johnson (S&S Performance) in Alpine San Diego area...my oil consumption is nil after 5000 miles when I change it.? Now with 75K miles.? Excellent performance too.? So my question would be?...was this a newly rebuilt motor for you or a transfer from a donor with no overhaul?
On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 05:05:38 PM PST, Jake de Villiers via groups.io <subyjake@...> wrote:
Mmm. My engine uses a quart every ~2000 miles or so, so I go in there every thousand miles and check.
Doesn't seem like a chore to me, just something I need to do.
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
1991 Carat w/Subaru 2.5L, Autotranny
For the time?being, I'm content with opening the engine bay to add oil because I want to inspect?moving parts, keep an eye on belts, and check for anything loosening up.? BTW, I have the Smallcar clear plastic tube?to check the oil level from the car tag hatch. Has worked so far. It was problematic reinserting after checking oil but I cut the tube off? at the low level mark and now it works great. When oil is at the bottom end, time to add oil. It would, however, be nice to not have to jump through hoops to add a quart, though.
On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 7:05?PM Jake de Villiers via <subyjake= [email protected]> wrote: Mmm. My engine uses a quart every ~2000 miles or so, so I go in there every thousand miles and check.
Doesn't seem like a chore to me, just something I need to do.
On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 11:47?AM Peter Gibson via <soquel.dude= [email protected]> wrote: Hi, Conor:
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You're right, the oil fill tube is not flex but is an angled stainless steel pipe. You can see all about it here:
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My bad!
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Jake
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Crescent Beach, BC
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1984 GL 1.9 WBX
1986 Westy Weekender with 2000 2.5 SOHC Subaru, 5 speed transaxle & PosiTrac Differential
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
Mmm. My engine uses a quart every ~2000 miles or so, so I go in there every thousand miles and check.
Doesn't seem like a chore to me, just something I need to do.
On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 11:47?AM Peter Gibson via <soquel.dude= [email protected]> wrote: Hi, Conor:
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You're right, the oil fill tube is not flex but is an angled stainless steel pipe. You can see all about it here:
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My bad!
-- Jake
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Crescent Beach, BC
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1984 GL 1.9 WBX
1986 Westy Weekender with 2000 2.5 SOHC Subaru, 5 speed transaxle & PosiTrac Differential
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
Hi, Conor:
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You're right, the oil fill tube is not flex but is an angled stainless steel pipe. You can see all about it here:
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My bad!
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
Hey peter I haven’t pulled the trigger yet, was a bit suspect also?
On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 7:18?PM Peter Gibson via groups.io <soquel.dude@...> wrote:
Thanks. I saw this on the Van Café site, but didn’t pay much attention to it since it’s intended for EJ25. I? did reach out to RMW about when they’d have an EJ22 solution, but no answer as yet.
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One concern that I had with their setup is the oil filler neck is a flex tube and looks like it most likely sits at a downward angle behind the license plate. If so, then you’d have to pump oil up the neck and into the oil port, or at least stretch the neck out and up to drain the oil.
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Did you order the optional oil funnel?
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Please update this post with what you like/don’t like about their solution.
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Thanks!
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From: connor warren via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2025 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [SubaruVanagon] How are folks topping off oil levels?
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VanCafe sells an extended oil filler neck to remedy this issue. Here is a link:
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I bought one but haven’t installed it yet. I’m surprised it took so long for an option to finally become available.
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Also, I know you’ve got an EJ22 and this states it’s for the EJ25. I’m relatively certain that the oil fill location is the same on the EJ22 and EJ25 blocks, but maybe triple check with Van Cafe before ordering.
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Connor
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On Jan 3, 2025, at 6:11?PM, Peter Gibson via groups.io <soquel.dude=comcast.net@groups.io> wrote:
Hi!
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I have a 1990 Westy Gl AT with an EJ22 conversion. The conversion was done at SCP and I have their oil pan and metal dipstick.
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What is a PITA for me is topping off the oil level. I want to find a way to do this without having to open the engine lid and add oil from the port on the engine. Is it possible to simply pump oil down the guide tube of the oil dipstick? I see on Amazon small pumps that can be used to pump up to a quart and these pumps have adapters that can easily go into the guide tube.
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Anybody see a problem with this? What are folks doing to add oil to their Suby engines?
Thanks!
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Re: How are folks topping off oil levels?
Van cafe sells an oil filler that is accessible from the plate like stock?
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On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 6:11?PM Peter Gibson via groups.io <soquel.dude@...> wrote:
Hi!
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I have a 1990 Westy Gl AT with an EJ22 conversion. The conversion was done at SCP and I have their oil pan and metal dipstick.
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What is a PITA for me is topping off the oil level. I want to find a way to do this without having to open the engine lid and add oil from the port on the engine. Is it possible to simply pump oil down the guide tube of the oil dipstick? I see on Amazon small pumps that can be used to pump up to a quart and these pumps have adapters that can easily go into the guide tube.
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Anybody see a problem with this? What are folks doing to add oil to their Suby engines?
Thanks!
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