Is that motor a belt or a chain ??
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On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 4:25?PM swissarmychainsaw via groups.io <swissarmychainsaw@...> wrote:
Hey Gang, I'm going to do some preventative maintenance on my Vanagon with a 92 Legacy 2.2 in it.
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Any recommendations on timing belt kits?? Are aftermarket ok these days?
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I'm assuming:
Timing belt
all pulleys
New tensioner
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And then while I'm there:
Oil Pump
Water pump
Cooling hoses
Thermostat
Other things to consider while the beast is on blocks?
Thanks!
Nick
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Hey Gang, I'm going to do some preventative maintenance on my Vanagon with a 92 Legacy 2.2 in it.
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Any recommendations on timing belt kits?? Are aftermarket ok these days?
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I'm assuming:
Timing belt
all pulleys
New tensioner
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And then while I'm there:
Oil Pump
Water pump
Cooling hoses
Thermostat
Other things to consider while the beast is on blocks?
Thanks!
Nick
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Re: ‘05 in the hand vs the ‘04 in the bush
Update:
I spoke with Jeff at AutoVentures.? He was quite helpful and is who I plan to send my wiring harness to.?
He likes the '05-'07 model years for conversions and recommended a RMW Drive-By-Wire throttle kit to reposition the pedal and keep the assembly under the dash.
So I'm going forward with the '05.
Thanks to all
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Connor-
That helps. ?I appreciate all the above input but was hoping for some hands on, like you provided. ?Was worth far more than $0.02 to me.
Thank you!
Brent-
None more, really.?
And I sincerely apologize if I wasn’t clear and/or concise. ?
I’ll talk to a vendor or two next.
Thanks
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Re: ‘05 in the hand vs the ‘04 in the bush
Not sure how much more you want Scotty. If I understand correctly your questions were these: Install used engine: is there value in doing the full installation and then removing the engine to rebuild it? AND What about the Immobilizer? ?Is the Subaru ignition switch mounted in the back somewhere too.
As to the first, you’ve gotten great feedback. ?It comes down to you picking a route and going with it. ?I’m weird but I have fun doing things like swapping out engines. ?You might not like the idea of dicking around with your installed engine. ?But it would seem to me that if you have a sound engine you should install it.
As to immobilizers and such, a quick call to pretty much any of the vendors will tell you whether you have to worry about this issue depending on the year of the engine you choose to drop in.
Please keep your questions clear and concise. ?If you do so it’s much easier for the collective brain trust here to help you out. Good luck with your conversion.
Best,
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On Nov 8, 2024, at 6:32?PM, Scotty via groups.io <schlivitz@...> wrote:
Was really hoping for some more wisdom about this.
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Bueller?…. ?Bueller?…..
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I mean, it’s really your call. Having done a few of these, I’m a fan of just doing it once and doing it right.?
That being said, I started with a 1992 OBD1 EJ22 swap and later went to a 2006 Impreza EJ253 with the drive by wire. The immobilizer wasn’t something that caused any issues. I had the harnesses done by AutoVentures for the EJ22 and Busaru for the EJ253. The OBD2 allows for a reflash or physical code killer, and I could be wrong but i don’t believe the immobilizer even comes into play at all.?
The Smallcar throttle cable to the DBW Subaru pedal in the engine compartment is what I did, and it works great. I believe the option of adding cruise control is easier in the DBW setup than an old school manual throttle body/accelerator pedal setup.?
What I did, for like $2500 was get an AVLS JDM EJ253 and used that as my engine, and used the USDM intake and wiring harness to run it. After a had a bad experience with an engine builder here in the US, I was hesitant to go with another rebuilt engine and I wanted a long block that hadn’t been opened up yet and messed with and had low miles. To me, a 50k mile factory Japanese built long block will allow for better long term reliability than an engine put together by some redneck “engine builder.”
My thought was, it would allow for easy engine replacement when this one gets tired. Just order up another JDM and swap it out in a day.?
Just my $0.02
Connor
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? Was really hoping for some more wisdom about this.
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Bueller?…. ?Bueller?…..
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Was really hoping for some more wisdom about this.
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Bueller?…. ?Bueller?…..
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Re: Kennedy kit catalytic converter
I reached out to Kennedy. There is a new EO that specifies the Walker 81101 catalytic converter. Mine is being shipped - hope to have it installed next week.?
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On Nov 6, 2024, at 4:34?PM, Alex De Guzman via groups.io <azianspirit@...> wrote:
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Had the same problem had the cat replaced bought the cat from rock auto for less that $400. Kennedy sells cat for over $500. I believe the cat is copco brand. Solve the problem.
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Had the same problem had the cat replaced bought the cat from rock auto for less that $400. Kennedy sells cat for over $500. I believe the cat is copco brand. Solve the problem.
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Okay, now we’re getting somewhere. I called Kennedy Engineering. The Executive Order that I have (D-428-3) has been updated??(D-428-5). ?Kennedy is sending me the updated EO, along with pricing for the correct catalytic converter. ?I’ll post on this once I get it resolved.
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On Nov 5, 2024, at 1:00?PM, Robert Gemmell via groups.io <bob.cougar.gemmellcamp@...> wrote:
Hi everyone. I’m about to call the smog referee to plead my case around catalytic converter replacement. ?I’ll let everyone know how it goes.?
These are the facts of the case - if anyone has been down this path feel free to comment:
- The catalytic converter on my 1987 VW Vanagon Westfalia Subaru conversion is not the correct catalytic converter, and it is burned out
- The Subaru engine conversion uses the Kennedy Engineered kit, which is approved by the Air Resources Board (Executive Order D-428-3). The EO specifies “one AirTek, Inc. (dba Catco) catalytic converter, part number 58834”
- This catalytic converter is no longer obtainable (as per catalytic converter specialist at Marco Muffler)
- Challenge: find a catalytic converter that can be used in place of the AirTek/Catco 58834 catalytic converter.
I’m curious to know if this is accurate, in the sense that the AirTek, Inc. (dba Catco) catalytic converter is no longer obtainable.?
Thanks
Bob bobgemmell.com? 916.228.1600
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Kennedy kit catalytic converter
Hi everyone. I’m about to call the smog referee to plead my case around catalytic converter replacement. ?I’ll let everyone know how it goes.?
These are the facts of the case - if anyone has been down this path feel free to comment:
- The catalytic converter on my 1987 VW Vanagon Westfalia Subaru conversion is not the correct catalytic converter, and it is burned out
- The Subaru engine conversion uses the Kennedy Engineered kit, which is approved by the Air Resources Board (Executive Order D-428-3). The EO specifies “one AirTek, Inc. (dba Catco) catalytic converter, part number 58834”
- This catalytic converter is no longer obtainable (as per catalytic converter specialist at Marco Muffler)
- Challenge: find a catalytic converter that can be used in place of the AirTek/Catco 58834 catalytic converter.
I’m curious to know if this is accurate, in the sense that the AirTek, Inc. (dba Catco) catalytic converter is no longer obtainable.?
Thanks
Bob bobgemmell.com? 916.228.1600
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Re: List of Subaru repair vendors/shops?
Shop added to our vendor database.
/g/SubaruVanagon/table?id=41314
Thanks Bill.
Best,
Brent
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Re: List of Subaru repair vendors/shops?
Good to know - thank you!
Bob
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On Nov 4, 2024, at 3:53?PM, Bill Staggs via groups.io <bus4hire@...> wrote:
? Westy Werks? (805) 549-0100 Nate & Jonathan 3076 Duncan lane San Luis Obispo CA 93401 United States
They work on all sorts of VW vehicles even if it has a transplant motor. Highly capable and trustworthy.
Bill. If you’ll pass me the info on Westy Works I’ll add them to the posted subaruvanagon vendor listing. Here’s what I need… URL to their website Company Name Do they do parts, installation, servicing (any or all)
Best, Brent On Nov 4, 2024, at 5:20?PM, Bill Staggs via < bus4hire@...> wrote:
Did you try the fine folks at Westy Werks on SLO? | ? ?  | Bill Staggs?
Co-Founder,?Vintage Surfari Wagons? | | |
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 Nate And Jonathan (805) 549-0100 3076 Duncan lane San Luis Obispo CA 93401 United States
Hi all – I should have saved this information….didn’t. ? Some time ago (a couple, 3 months?) ago, somebody was kind enough to publish and share a list of known Subaru/Vanagon sellers, repair shops, etc.? Can anybody share this with me one more time? Was it Wayne who compiled the list….? I could be way off. ? I’m in California, Central Coast area, had the conversion done with Cesar and team at California Westys, El Cajon, Ca. He is about 6 hours away, so hoping to find some one more local. And in case you don’t know, retail store GoWesty is about 45 min from my house, but no longer has a repair shop. That said, the repair shop is still nearby, but now independent. However, they do NOT work on Subaru engines. Everything else, yes.? ? My info for the sake of completeness: ? Terry Cline Paso Robles CA? 805 305 7638 Vanagon: 1987 Vanagon converted to mimic a Westfalia. Pop up, cupboards, water, sink, stove, only thing now missing is the original fridge. Original VW engine converted to the Subaru 2.2L, 1990 – 1995 Legacy, in approximately Nov 2022. ? Thanks Terry
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Westy Werks? (805) 549-0100 Nate & Jonathan 3076 Duncan lane San Luis Obispo CA 93401 United States
They work on all sorts of VW vehicles even if it has a transplant motor. Highly capable and trustworthy.
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Bill. If you’ll pass me the info on Westy Works I’ll add them to the posted subaruvanagon vendor listing. Here’s what I need… URL to their website Company Name Do they do parts, installation, servicing (any or all)
Best, Brent On Nov 4, 2024, at 5:20?PM, Bill Staggs via < bus4hire@...> wrote:
Did you try the fine folks at Westy Werks on SLO? | ? ? | Bill Staggs?
Co-Founder,?Vintage Surfari Wagons? | | |
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Nate And Jonathan (805) 549-0100 3076 Duncan lane San Luis Obispo CA 93401 United States
Hi all – I should have saved this information….didn’t. ? Some time ago (a couple, 3 months?) ago, somebody was kind enough to publish and share a list of known Subaru/Vanagon sellers, repair shops, etc.? Can anybody share this with me one more time? Was it Wayne who compiled the list….? I could be way off. ? I’m in California, Central Coast area, had the conversion done with Cesar and team at California Westys, El Cajon, Ca. He is about 6 hours away, so hoping to find some one more local. And in case you don’t know, retail store GoWesty is about 45 min from my house, but no longer has a repair shop. That said, the repair shop is still nearby, but now independent. However, they do NOT work on Subaru engines. Everything else, yes.? ? My info for the sake of completeness: ? Terry Cline Paso Robles CA? 805 305 7638 Vanagon: 1987 Vanagon converted to mimic a Westfalia. Pop up, cupboards, water, sink, stove, only thing now missing is the original fridge. Original VW engine converted to the Subaru 2.2L, 1990 – 1995 Legacy, in approximately Nov 2022. ? Thanks Terry
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Bill. If you’ll pass me the info on Westy Works I’ll add them to the posted subaruvanagon vendor listing. Here’s what I need… URL to their website Company Name Do they do parts, installation, servicing (any or all)
Best, Brent
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On Nov 4, 2024, at 5:20?PM, Bill Staggs via groups.io <bus4hire@...> wrote:
Did you try the fine folks at Westy Werks on SLO? | ? ? | Bill Staggs?
Co-Founder,?Vintage Surfari Wagons? | | |
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Nate And Jonathan (805) 549-0100 3076 Duncan lane San Luis Obispo CA 93401 United States
Hi all – I should have saved this information….didn’t. ? Some time ago (a couple, 3 months?) ago, somebody was kind enough to publish and share a list of known Subaru/Vanagon sellers, repair shops, etc.? Can anybody share this with me one more time? Was it Wayne who compiled the list….? I could be way off. ? I’m in California, Central Coast area, had the conversion done with Cesar and team at California Westys, El Cajon, Ca. He is about 6 hours away, so hoping to find some one more local. And in case you don’t know, retail store GoWesty is about 45 min from my house, but no longer has a repair shop. That said, the repair shop is still nearby, but now independent. However, they do NOT work on Subaru engines. Everything else, yes.? ? My info for the sake of completeness: ? Terry Cline Paso Robles CA? 805 305 7638 Vanagon: 1987 Vanagon converted to mimic a Westfalia. Pop up, cupboards, water, sink, stove, only thing now missing is the original fridge. Original VW engine converted to the Subaru 2.2L, 1990 – 1995 Legacy, in approximately Nov 2022. ? Thanks Terry
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Did you try the fine folks at Westy Werks on SLO?
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Nate And Jonathan (805) 549-0100 3076 Duncan lane San Luis Obispo CA 93401 United States
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Hi all – I should have saved this information….didn’t. ? Some time ago (a couple, 3 months?) ago, somebody was kind enough to publish and share a list of known Subaru/Vanagon sellers, repair shops, etc.? Can anybody share this with me one more time? Was it Wayne who compiled the list….? I could be way off. ? I’m in California, Central Coast area, had the conversion done with Cesar and team at California Westys, El Cajon, Ca. He is about 6 hours away, so hoping to find some one more local. And in case you don’t know, retail store GoWesty is about 45 min from my house, but no longer has a repair shop. That said, the repair shop is still nearby, but now independent. However, they do NOT work on Subaru engines. Everything else, yes.? ? My info for the sake of completeness: ? Terry Cline Paso Robles CA? 805 305 7638 Vanagon: 1987 Vanagon converted to mimic a Westfalia. Pop up, cupboards, water, sink, stove, only thing now missing is the original fridge. Original VW engine converted to the Subaru 2.2L, 1990 – 1995 Legacy, in approximately Nov 2022. ? Thanks Terry
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No apologies.
It’s good info and much appreciated.
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Scotty, because?of the condition I was in at the time, I HIRED my engine installation so some of your questions I can't answer. The fellow that did mine though did a very good job. He own three himself and maintains them all. He guided me to SmallCar. that's what is in his three. So far as the pedal in the back over the engine for me it works great. Sorry, I can't answer your other two questions.
Thanks for the replies.
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The Small Car DBW kit just seems to ad components, when I’m really focused on simplifying.
Maybe I’m answering my own questions.? A cable to the DBW pedal mounted in the back seems like a lot going on between my foot and the fuel injection.
What about the Immobilizer?? Is the Subaru ignition switch mounted in the back somewhere too.
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Andrew-
It seems like once I start in one of these directions, I’m sorta’ locked in unless I want to go back and start over.? Am I wrong here?
Wiring harnesses are expensive and removing/replacing them sux.
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Again, thanks (I’m really not trying to be argumentative. Just want to get a better understanding of what I’m about to dive into.) ?I do appreciate the feedback.?
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Thanks for the replies.
John-
The Small Car DBW kit just seems to ad components, when I’m really focused on simplifying.
Maybe I’m answering my own questions. ?A cable to the DBW pedal mounted in the back seems like a lot going on between my foot and the fuel injection.
What about the Immobilizer? ?Is the Subaru ignition switch mounted in the back somewhere too.
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Andrew-
It seems like once I start in one of these directions, I’m sorta’ locked in unless I want to go back and start over. ?Am I wrong here?
Wiring harnesses are expensive and removing/replacing them sux.
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Again, thanks (I’m really not trying to be argumentative. Just want to get a better understanding of what I’m about to dive into.) ?I do appreciate the feedback.?
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There are YouTube videos on how to do just about anything including Subaru harness harvesting and swap wiring. Busaru.com is a good resource if you don't want to spend the big bucks. 03 harnesses are still pretty straightforward.
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