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Re: Failed emissions inspection!
Gary McEachern
Good point! Anyone out there know what "normal" emissions readings are for the Suby 2.2L engine? Is 10.45% high or could it be normal for this engine.
Gary ----Original Message Follows---- From: Jim Arnott <jrasite@...> Don't *know* but here's my observations... Gary McEachern wrote: "The test was run as if the engine was the VW waterboxer." It ain't. AFAIK the Test should have been run for the engine that you have. HC was 2.37 with a limit of 8.25High NOx usually indicates an lean mixture. (Burning too hot.) You might return to the smog station and ask for the specs for the engine that's in your rig. If your readings are w/i the range of the specs, have it retested. Else??? Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at |
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motor mount nuts and exhaust nuts
woohoo! the 2.2 is in the vanagon, the threaded studs are in the
holes of the motor mount bracket which is bolted to the vanagon, but there is nothing holding it there other than gravity. Since I can't put the motor in my pocket and find out which nut at the hardware store works, does anyone know the specs for the nuts for the motor mount? Also, the same thing seems to have happened for the exhaust manifold, are these the same size? Also, I am having a hard time finding a battery that will fit underneath the passenger seat, anyone have any models/brands they suggest? -thanks in advance, Dan |
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Re: Failed emissions inspection!
Gary McEachern
Justin
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Thanks for the information. How could the ignition timing on a suby EJ22 engine become over advanced? Since there is no distributor isn't the timing electronically controlled with no provision for adjustment? Gary ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Justin B. Jensen" <jjensen@...> Reply-To: subaruvanagon@... To: <subaruvanagon@...> Subject: RE: [subaruvanagon] Failed emissions inspection! Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:22:30 -0700 Check for over-advanced ignition timing and/or a lean condition. -----Original Message-----
From: Gary McEachern [mailto:glmce@...] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 12:26 PM To: subaruvanagon@... Subject: [subaruvanagon] Failed emissions inspection! Hello SubaVolks I took my van to be inspected today and failed the mass enhanced emissions test! Boy was I surprised because the suby engine runs and smells so much nicer than the VW engine. The test was run as if the engine was the VW waterboxer. The emissions are read with the van driven at speed on a dynamometer. HC was 2.37 with a limit of 8.25 CO was 51.38 with a limit of 94.36 CO2 was 753.49 NOx was 10.45 with a limit of 9.27! I'm running the original VW exhaust components (cat and muffler). I suspect the Cat is bad. I haven't hooked up the test light to read out the ECU error codes yet. I plan to do this later today or tomorrow. Can anyone tell me what typical readings should be for this engine using the VW exhaust? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Gary _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: subaruvanagon-unsubscribe@... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at |
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Re: Failed emissions inspection!
Justin B. Jensen
Check for over-advanced ignition timing and/or a lean condition.
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From: Gary McEachern [mailto:glmce@...] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 12:26 PM To: subaruvanagon@... Subject: [subaruvanagon] Failed emissions inspection! Hello SubaVolks I took my van to be inspected today and failed the mass enhanced emissions test! Boy was I surprised because the suby engine runs and smells so much nicer than the VW engine. The test was run as if the engine was the VW waterboxer. The emissions are read with the van driven at speed on a dynamometer. HC was 2.37 with a limit of 8.25 CO was 51.38 with a limit of 94.36 CO2 was 753.49 NOx was 10.45 with a limit of 9.27! I'm running the original VW exhaust components (cat and muffler). I suspect the Cat is bad. I haven't hooked up the test light to read out the ECU error codes yet. I plan to do this later today or tomorrow. Can anyone tell me what typical readings should be for this engine using the VW exhaust? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Gary _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: subaruvanagon-unsubscribe@... |
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Re: Failed emissions inspection!
Darrell Boehler
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It appears you are running a bit to the lean side. You might try a new O2 sensor if you already haven't replaced it. The cat doesn't remove nox. Maybe you have one cylinder running lean. Check the plugs, they may show the lean cylinder. Try some gasohol if you have any over your way, or some injector cleaner that will clean out the injector system. Darrell ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary McEachern" <glmce@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 1:25 PM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Failed emissions inspection! Hello SubaVolks |
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Re: Failed emissions inspection!
Jim Arnott
Don't *know* but here's my observations...
Gary McEachern wrote: "The test was run as if the engine was the VW waterboxer." It ain't. AFAIK the Test should have been run for the engine that you have. HC was 2.37 with a limit of 8.25High NOx usually indicates an lean mixture. (Burning too hot.) You might return to the smog station and ask for the specs for the engine that's in your rig. If your readings are w/i the range of the specs, have it retested. Else??? Jim |
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Failed emissions inspection!
Gary McEachern
Hello SubaVolks
I took my van to be inspected today and failed the mass enhanced emissions test! Boy was I surprised because the suby engine runs and smells so much nicer than the VW engine. The test was run as if the engine was the VW waterboxer. The emissions are read with the van driven at speed on a dynamometer. HC was 2.37 with a limit of 8.25 CO was 51.38 with a limit of 94.36 CO2 was 753.49 NOx was 10.45 with a limit of 9.27! I'm running the original VW exhaust components (cat and muffler). I suspect the Cat is bad. I haven't hooked up the test light to read out the ECU error codes yet. I plan to do this later today or tomorrow. Can anyone tell me what typical readings should be for this engine using the VW exhaust? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Gary _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at |
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Re: Source for 2.5 wiring harness
Warren Chapman
They specialize in Subaru engines and have their own dyno. They tuneWarren, do you know of any sources, sites for Subaru wiringYes, very high performance turbocharged Subaru engines for sandrails. Located in S. California. Their site is nothing except contact info but you can check out their add in "Sandrail" magazine. Its fun to see their ultra sexy Subaru engines. Told me they could add a "mild" (low boost) turbo to a 2.2 and easily get 200+ hp. Expensive though. Warren |
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Re: No Luck Getting Smogged Today
Leon Korkin
John,
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You are in Long Beach? I am in Torrance, close by. Are you running converted Vanagon? Leon 85 Subwagen Westy John Andersen wrote: Since it sounds like you are in the Great State of California, where are you located? I am in the |
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Re: persistent backfire popping at deceleration
John Fleming
Great suggestion I will investigate thoroghly. I have had the exhaust crack
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a couple times now before the O2 sensor. I had it welded each time so I thought it was OK. If it is that sensitive, then I will check it out. Thanks. I have been trying to troubleshoot the two codes Idle air control and temp. I Idle air is supposed to cause the engine to lower RPM's when connector disconnected but mine increases rpm's. Go figure. Thanks everyone for the help. John ----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew C. Parker" <acparker@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: persistent backfire popping at deceleration
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Re: No Luck Getting Smogged Today
Ron Bloomquist
Hi Warren,
I too went to the same shop Ed mentioned. This was before Ed did his conversion. I was all proud of my recently completed conversion and having survived "wiring hell"! They would not even look at it. Bummer! They said I would have to go to a referee. I called around and discovered the closest referee to me was in Santa Rosa. I called them and was told I had to make an appointment and had to do this and that and on and on. Very bureaucratic. By the time I hung up I was getting pissed. I then called Hobert and told him what was going on. He said, "Do NOT take it to a referee. You will be sorry! Find a smog station that has the current CARB regulations." I finally did and my conversion passed with flying colors; no problem! It seems that most smog stations are running scared because they are all tied into the state computer and any mistakes they make could cost them their license. They are very harried and don't want to deal with anything a bit "strange". Yet, if you can catch a smog employee that has had a good weekend, his wife kissed him before he left for work and his girlfriend is bringing him his favorite lunch... well, maybe you can get him to call the California Air Resources Board and have them send him the: State of California Air Resources Board Executive Order D-428-1 Relating to Exemptions Under Section 27156 of the Vehicle Code. Hobert Kennedy spent over two years working with the CARB to get this exemption. You think "Wiring hell" was a hassle!! We all owe a great deal to Hobert for breaking new ground and doing it right. All we have to do it take it the final mile. If all else fails.... Call John Sullivan L. Chevrolet of Roseville, Ca. Phone 916-782-1243. They were great. It would be best though if you brought your local smog station up to speed. Much more convenient. In the meantime, if you have some spare time on your hands.... My latest travel story is up on my web page. Ron |
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Re: No Luck Getting Smogged Today
Ed McKinley
Warren... The smog shop knows what this listing is called. It is a
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printout that specifically lists vehicles and their special approvals. It is a thick, bound computer printout. I got this from the shop that told Ron and me separately that there was no way this conversion could be smogged without going to the ref. They were adamant. I went to the shop owner, who knows me well and knows of KEP. I told him that this kit has an approval so he dug out the printout and found the KEP listing, its quite extensive and mentions the KEP parts required and the 3 error codes that are o.k. I saw this with my very own eyes. The shop guys were surprised but became believers. The smog shop guys need to be coaxed into looking up this info for you. I will be out of town tomorrow and can't call my shop to ask what this listing is. All smog shops have to have it so be persistent. Warren Chapman wrote:
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Re: No Luck Getting Smogged Today
Leon Korkin
Warren,
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Try this. Get phone number of your nearest CARB office, call them to make sure they will be ready to confirm compliance and then when you go for smog check ask the guy to call CARB office. That did it for me 2 years ago. Had check 1 month ago, this guy knows me by now and doesn't ask any questions.You were unlucky to go to those places(a bit stubborn mechnics), try another one as they are all very different and sure there will be flexible one Leon 85 Subwagen Westy Warren Chapman wrote: In a previous post several listees reported that it was not necessary |
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Re: ignition-no spark woes
Hello Patrick, I have an 85 Westphalia camper with a 95 Legacy
motor that I have been driving for two years now.When I started on the wiring harness I went to the public library and found Mitchell's manuels for foreign cars for the years 90,91,92,93,94,and 95. I compared engine wiring diagrams for the Subaru Legacy for those years and noted the changes from year to year, especially the big change from 94 to 95. I then took the wiring sheet from Kennedy and wrote out the corresponding wire location number and color for my application beside each wire on his chart. There are a few extra inputs like a rear oxygen sensor,pressure sensor, etc. that you'll have to deal with that the rest of these guys did'nt, but hey, no sweat.The absolute best value, most bang for the buck, thank God the day I did it, money I spent on the electrical part of this engine conversion was for a 95 Subaru Legacy Shop Manuel Volume 3. This volume covers all wiring diagrams, troubleshooting and explanation of error codes, and cruise control.Every wire location number and color matched my harness and engine perfectly,with no confusion.You can order this manuel from any Subaru dealer and it will cost you a hundred bucks--but you'll own the Sacred Scrolls Glenn |
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Re: persistent backfire popping at deceleration
The emissions people here told me that a leak in the exhaust system will
throw the computer off by giving the O2 sensor false readings, therefore your O2 sensor may be functioning properly but it could be getting exhaust contaminated with fresh air thereby sending inaccurate data to the computer. Of course, Emissions wouldn't count the cost of replacing the header pipe on the old WBX toward the $200 minimum for a "work toward compliance" waiver (it was way more than $200), but they would count the cost for a new O2 sensor, which I didn't need. Anybody need a slightly used WBX header? Andrew Parker acparker@... |
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