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Re: ignition- no spark woes
Darrell Boehler
Hi Brian,
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Try page 38. Darrell ----- Original Message -----
From: <SBWC919@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: [subaruvanagon] ignition- no spark woes
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Re: Darrell: Re VSS- Hall Effects units??
Darrell Boehler
Hi Warren,
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Thanks for the kind words. First I am spent my working life as a technician not an electronic engineer. If you know one by all means get advice form them. I would try a hall from digikey.com like " hal214ua-e-nd " . It seems to have what we need, voltage range, current range is good, and is even suggested for use as a speed sensor among other things. The site you mention has some great hall information, thanks for pointing me that way. Darrell ----- Original Message -----
From: "Warren Chapman" <tallsound@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Darrell: Re VSS- Hall Effects units??
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Re: Final Drive Ratios
Leon Korkin
Hi Steve,
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My van is 2wd but the spacer is needed to compensate for the diffrense in wheel offset.Offset of standard Vanagon wheel is 35mm, Audi wheel offset is 45mm. So the diffrence of 10mm=.39" and for Audi wheel to be in the stock position it needs to be spaced out by this amount and clearing suspension parts also. I chose 5/16" thickness and it was enough to clear suspension. The spacer print is the drawing of spacer i did in Autocad so any machine shop can make it. I am not familiar with Syncro but guess it doesn't matter.The hubs need to be opened to 2.500 dia due to front axle dust caps. The studs must be longer for 2wd van, using Porshe studs may be expensive. It's not that much work to do it and it is worth it. The hard part is removing axle nut, it is very tight, i have very large, ab. 5 foot long handle with socket to do it. Once you have axle hub out you can hammer old studs out. Get new studs, (may have to ream holes in axle hubs if you use Pep Boys studs) and press them in using hydrolic press.Standard studs have M14X1.5 thread and 35mm long, knurled dia(for pressing) is ab. .580" Pep boys studs knurled dia is larger so holes in axle hubs have to be reamed close to stud knurled dia so there is little interference(.008 or less) to keep studs there. Leon Steve Coseo wrote: Thanks. Wow. Appreciate that. |
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Re: filling collent from the radiator ?
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Hi All,it). radiator, other end in a jug of coolent of course. |
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Re: filling collent from the radiator ?
--hello john i have installed a front fill radiator in my 1986
westy . Im currently in longmont co visiting if you want to take a look at the car.mail me back with your # and ill give you a call danny - In subaruvanagon@..., beamreach@u... wrote: Hi All,it). radiator, other end in a jug of coolent of course. |
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filling collent from the radiator ?
Hi All,
I've ordered the kit from KEP and motor from a 93 subi to cure my "thrown rod problem" in my 87 syncro. KEP sent me some docs early and looking them over I already having wiring questions (that I'll save for later hoping they'll solve themselves as I get into it). My question here is about filling the coolent. The Docs indicate that a front filling radiator might eliminate trapped air problems and make bleeding the cooling system so much easier. Has anyone tried this ? My thought was to get a small aquarium pump and place the output into the hole for the bleeder bolt on top of the radiator, other end in a jug of coolent of course. Any thoughts ? John, Evergreen, CO PS, if anyone needs a source for motors, I've found a business in Boulder CO that looks reputable and I'm willing to go up and look over motors for anyone who needs. |
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Darrell: Re VSS- Hall Effects units??
Warren Chapman
Darrell,
Thanks so much for your always helpful posts to our list. I'm one of the non-electronics educated on the list and so looked up the following site on "hall-effect"s to find out just what this is and how it works. Others may find it helpful. This site (hand the digikey.com site you recommend) mentions several types of hall units. Can you recommend one type or a Digikey part number that is useful for our application. Warren C. |
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Re: yellow wire from alternator
Warren Chapman
Mark,
The yellow wire from the round plug on the Subaru alternator is spliced into one of (mine has two) the VW black "ignition on" wire that come from the black junction box in the engine bay. Warren C. Mark Dobkin wrote. I am in the middle of wiring hell and I spliced the yellow wirefrom the alternator to somewhere but it unspliced itself and I cantfigure out where it goes. Any help would be appreciated. The wiring |
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yellow wire from alternator
I am in the middle of wiring hell and I spliced the yellow wire from
the alternator to somewhere but it unspliced itself and I cant figure out where it goes. Any help would be appreciated. The wiring harness is a 90 Legacy. thanks Mark Dobkin 89 Vanagon GL (with Legacy engine sitting next to it) |
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Re: Final Drive Ratios
Steve Coseo
Thanks. Wow. Appreciate that.
Hey, a few questions sir. Are you saying I need spacers on my syncro as well? Or JUST for the non syncro applications? i have a reg van as well. They seemed to fit fine on my syncro, and I looked at the suspension, but it was dark and of course I might have missed something, and I have no idea how they would fit with the suspension actually moving up and down. The reason I ask this is that I have been told that the wheels fit the syncro with NO mod, but I learned quickly that I had to ream the hub a bit. What is a spacer print? I have also heard that the rear lugs have to be longer for the wheels to fit a non syncro van. Heard that porsche 911 studs work. Heard anything like that? I would hate to have to press it new studs. Sounds likea lot of work... Thanks again, steve ----Original Message Follows---- From: Leon Korkin <korkwood@...> Reply-To: subaruvanagon@... To: subaruvanagon@... Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: Final Drive Ratios Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:43:45 -0800 You will need spacers too.I got the same wheels and used 5/16" thick alum. spacers and it works clearing all suspension parts.Reaming out the center is critical part and has to be precise for wheel balancing.I got spacer print and if you need it can mail it to you. I got longer studs for rear hubs at Pep boys at very reasonable price. Because they were bit larger diameter had to drill larger holes in hub and pressed them in. The wheels proved to be very good and with 215/75/15 tires lifted van for much better clearance. Leon 85 Subwagen Westy Steve Coseo wrote: Great post. thanks.the syncro disk hub.to a full 2.5 inches.that could do that? Brian (smallcar.com)described a couple days ago. 5x112 bolt pattern, 7 inch rims with a 25 mm or 1 inchhis old front tires LT 195 75 r 14 turned 834and rear 225 70 14 were 795. Thenorthwest the past couple of weeks and likes this set up. His words are more likeit handles great, he also has a rear anti- sway bar.his set up with 25 mm offset is as good as you can get using the same wheelsall around with no spacers. It is dead center between the outside wheel welland ball joint in front and has 1 inch of clearance at the trailing arms andliked that.happy with the ecu. The check engine light stays off. However if we hook upread out jumper it will have 51 and 52 (neutral and parking brake) errorslogged. Darrella gear ratio chart somewhere within "Tom's Vanagon Website" (not sure) inthe engine conversion section.engine turning around 3600 or 3700, instead of the 4000 it now turns at 70 MPH. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: subaruvanagon-unsubscribe@... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at |
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Re: Final Drive Ratios
Leon Korkin
You will need spacers too.I got the same wheels and used 5/16" thick alum.
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spacers and it works clearing all suspension parts.Reaming out the center is critical part and has to be precise for wheel balancing.I got spacer print and if you need it can mail it to you. I got longer studs for rear hubs at Pep boys at very reasonable price. Because they were bit larger diameter had to drill larger holes in hub and pressed them in. The wheels proved to be very good and with 215/75/15 tires lifted van for much better clearance. Leon 85 Subwagen Westy Steve Coseo wrote: Great post. thanks. |
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Re: Final Drive Ratios
Darrell Boehler
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We had some vss discussions last summer. I remember taking pictures but I don't think they are posted yet. On a 2wd 3 magnets on the o2 counter shaft will be about right. We are using 4 with no problem. The o2 mileage counter spins at 800 revs per mile on a 2 wd. On a syncro you probably only want 2 magnets. Seems the legacy needs about 2k vss pulses per mile. Ours is made similar to the Meyers brothers, except where they used a reed type contact we used the hall unit. The vss / hall has given us no problems since install. Darrell Hi Leon, We used a hall unit from webtronics.com, they only sell one. Digikey.com sells hall units also, some of theirs are more sensitive and may be easier to work with. We use 4 magnets just like Dick Meyer from Radio shack catalog # 64-1895, attaching them to the vans o2 counter shaft with radio shack quick drying epoxy 64-2313b. We get 4 pulses per revolution of the o2 counter shaft / or revolution of the left front wheel which ever way you prefer to look at it. It seems to us the vss along with the park, neutral switch, ac clutch all seem to have an impact on engine idle. It idles very smooth at all ranges and it varies the idle speed depending which switches or combination of switches are active. I am waiting for a note from Dick Meyer on how to wire up the park and neutral switches for best results. He has a handle on them. Darrell ps. For those who want a quick run down. We will put some pictures and more details on our web site and I will post here when we get them up. The hall we used (ohn3133u) required passing the magnets within about .030 inch or less of the hall unit front midsection. I tested / scoped the unit on the bench using a drill to drive the unit. It has plenty of drive with just the hall transistor (no driver transistor needed). On install we pick up 12 volts and ground at the fuel pump through a 5 amp inline fuse. The D+ wire already at the o2 counter was lacking adequate power to drive the vss signal on our van. (The 2.2L seems to have a very wimpy D+ signal). Other than 12v and ground the hall unit has an output pin that we took direct to the ecu connector b58 pin11 or kep pin b11. We reset the ecu codes and have no more 33 error type logged. As I mention in an earlier post we now have 51 and 52 error codes. Tom is traveling to Wisconsin to a further festival this weekend, and the system will get a good long test under actual driving conditions. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Leon Korkin" <korkwood@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] vss / error 33 Hi Darrell,----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Hamm" <LDHAMM@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: Final Drive Ratios
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Re: Final Drive Ratios
Steve Coseo
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Any pics of these wheels? I am currently modifyng some 15 inch Audi Ronal alloys with the 45 mm offset. Got them at a yard here in Seattle. Painted them silver with a clear coat after I reamed out the center hub a bit to get it to clear all 4 wheels on my syncro. Then I reamed out the inside wheel hub so they would clear the front flange on the syncro disk hub. To get them to fit a non syncro van Ill have to ream out the center hubs to a full 2.5 inches. Sooooooo, does anyone know of a good machine shop in the Seattle area that could do that? Brian (smallcar.com) -steve seattle, wa ps. I love my SA 15 inch wheels on my sooby van. great handling, and my direct connection to the highway expansion seems went away.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Darrell Boehler" Reply-To: subaruvanagon@... To: Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: Final Drive Ratios Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:31:46 -0600 Hi All, My son Tom has after market mb allow wheels similar to what Nelson described a couple days ago. 5x112 bolt pattern, 7 inch rims with a 25 mm or 1 inch off set. They fit his 86 2wd westy about as well as any that could be engineered for it. He has m&s 215 75 15 LT tires and they turn 761 revolutions per mile, some 185 r 14 c tires on my double cab were 814, his old front tires LT 195 75 r 14 turned 834and rear 225 70 14 were 795. The 2.2L now turns 3700 rpm at a gps 70 mph . He has been touring the northwest the past couple of weeks and likes this set up. His words are more like it handles great, he also has a rear anti- sway bar. I invested quite a lot of time with him on his wheels and tires and feel his set up with 25 mm offset is as good as you can get using the same wheels all around with no spacers. It is dead center between the outside wheel well and ball joint in front and has 1 inch of clearance at the trailing arms and shocks in rear, enough so tire cables / chains will be fine if they are tightened properly. We looked at installing a taller 4th gear, Weddle has about 3 options to choose from around $200. Larger wheels makes all gears taller and we liked that. Tom's 2.2L has never had dying at a stop sign syndrome. Just the 33 (vss) error code. We added a hall vss in place of the o2 counter and all is happy with the ecu. The check engine light stays off. However if we hook up read out jumper it will have 51 and 52 (neutral and parking brake) errors logged. Darrell ----- Original Message -----
From: dewymer@... To: subaruvanagon@... Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: Final Drive Ratios Nelson, My 87 with close ratio 5 speed turns 4000 RPM @ 70 mph as well. There is a gear ratio chart somewhere within "Tom's Vanagon Website" (not sure) in the engine conversion section. Dale 87 wolf California Nelson Stoll wrote: Dear Converts, Were there really two different final drives made by the factory for the Vanagon? What is the ratio of the US '90/'91 Vanagon? If there was adaquate power available, I sure would like to see the engine turning around 3600 or 3700, instead of the 4000 it now turns at 70 MPH. Nelson StollSF Bay Area'90 Vanagon To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: subaruvanagon-unsubscribe@... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at |
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Re: Final Drive Ratios
Darrell Boehler
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi All,
??? My son Tom has after market mb
allow wheels similar to what?Nelson described a couple days ago. 5x112 bolt
pattern, 7 inch rims with a 25 mm or 1 inch off set. They fit his 86?2wd
westy about as well as any that could be engineered for it.?? He has
m&s ?215 75 15 LT? tires and they turn 761 revolutions per mile,
some 185 r 14 c??tires on my double cab?were?814, his old
front?tires LT? 195 75 r 14 turned 834and rear 225 70 14 were 795.
? The 2.2L now turns 3700 rpm at a gps 70 mph . ?He has been touring
the northwest?the?past couple of weeks and likes this set up. His
words are more like it?handles great, he?also has?a?rear
anti- sway bar. ?????
??? I invested quite a lot of time
with him on his wheels and tires and feel his set up with 25 mm offset
?is?as good as you can get using the same wheels all around with no
spacers.? It is dead center between the?outside wheel well and ball
joint in front and?has? 1 inch of clearance at the trailing?arms
and shocks in rear,? enough so tire cables / chains will be fine if they
are tightened properly.
??? We looked at installing a taller
4th? gear, ?Weddle has about 3 options to choose from around $200.
?? Larger?wheels makes all?gears?taller and we liked
that. ????????????
??? Tom's??2.2L?has
never had dying at a stop sign syndrome. Just the 33 (vss) error
??code. We added a hall vss in place of the o2 counter and all is
happy with the ecu. The?check engine light stays off. ? However if we
hook up read out jumper it will have 51 and 52? (neutral and parking brake)
errors logged.?
????
Darrell
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Re: WRX coming to US
I went to the LA Auto Show today and found a couple of interesting Still, the Japanese market gets 290hp versions, which are sold nowhere else. Though you won't hear about them, I was sent a factory power/torque graph of theold-model Type RA engine, which I came within cooee of ordering (turned it down when an SVX turned up). Andrew Grebneff Dunedin, New Zealand VW & mollusc nut 1984 VW Caravelle (currently SVX engine; waiting for a Porsche trans) 1985 Mitsubishi Galant Sigma 2.0 (FWD), for sale 1986 CE80 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel (extaxi) 1989 CE96 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel wagon 1989 CT170 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel (taxi) |
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WRX coming to US
I went to the LA Auto Show today and found a couple of interesting
tidbits I thought I'd share with the group. A Subaru rep informed me that the Impreza WRX will be on display next week at the show and should be on sale in the Spring. Engine specs are rather impressive - 2.0 liter DOHC, turbo producing a whopping 227 hp at 6,000 rpm and 217 lb/ft of torque at 4,000 rpm. When our 2.2's wear out in a few years, this would be a nice alternative, eh?? I checked the new VW Eurovan out and was surprised at what I found. Last year, the power output of the 2.8 liter VR6 was around 140 hp. This year, they FINALLY got it right as power has jumped to 201 hp, thats right 201. I had to read it about four or five times to be sure. Anyway I thought I'd relay this info to you all. I just had to take a break from wiring hell to see the new cars for this year. Mark Dobkin 89 Vanagon GL (with Legacy engine sitting next to it) |
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