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Subaru dealer shop may make copies of the wiring diagram for you.? Also, check out local repair shops that have access to computer download service.

Allan Williams wrote:

Gary,

Hobert Kennedy converted an automatic and used it as his "shop
vehicle" for pick-ups and deliveries. I think it was wrecked so not
now in use.

What does he say?? You might ask him for a referral to someone or
to a shop that has done one.

I also know of a shop in Sacramento, Ca that converted an automatic.
I'll try to get some contact info for you.


Warren C.


--- In subaruvanagon@..., "Gary McEachern" <glmce@h...>
wrote:

Hello
I have a '87 Wolfy weekender and a '92 Legacy engine and plan to do

the

conversion in a few weeks. I am uncertain about whether I should do

the

conversion using the automatic transmission. I have not seen any

postings

describing how the conversion works with an automatic tranny.

Kennedy has a

kit for the automatic and says it works but suggests that the 4

speed works

better. I currently have the kit for the automatic on order. I

could
convert

to a 4 speed however it would be a lot of additional work and

expense.

I'd like to hear from anyone who has or knows of someone who has

done a

Subaru conversion on a Vanagon with an automatic tranny.

Please p-mail me.

Thanks

Gary

Gary McEachern, Reading Ma.
'90 Westy
'84GL w/ Super Sunroof
'87GL Wolfsburg Weekender
'75 Spitfire

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Hi everybody!

I just joined the group because I'm putting a Subaru 1800 (EJ18) in my
"Fonzie Van". It used to be a beetle, but it's not now (you can see it in my
website).

I'm looking for a wiring diagram to help me wire up the EFI on this engine.

It's from a 1991 Imprezza and has the single point injection system. The
engine itself is a 1800 16V sohc (2 cams :-).

If anybody can help me with a diagram or a suitable book or website, it
would be great. I've removed many wires from the loom, all the auto trans
wires are gone, but a diagram would help with the final wirng.

THANKS!!!

Allan :-)

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Hello
I have a '87 Wolfy weekender and a '92 Legacy engine and plan to do the conversion in a few weeks. I am uncertain about whether I should do the conversion using the automatic transmission. I have not seen any postings describing how the conversion works with an automatic tranny. Kennedy has a kit for the automatic and says it works but suggests that the 4 speed works better. I currently have the kit for the automatic on order. I could convert to a 4 speed however it would be a lot of additional work and expense.

I'd like to hear from anyone who has or knows of someone who has done a Subaru conversion on a Vanagon with an automatic tranny.

Please p-mail me.

Thanks

Gary

Gary McEachern, Reading Ma.
'90 Westy
'84GL w/ Super Sunroof
'87GL Wolfsburg Weekender
'75 Spitfire

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Hey Brian,
I live in NJ but will be in Dillwyn Va. in late july or early Aug.
Let me know if want to hook up
Dave

I've posted a photo of the innards of a Subaru oilpan. It's about 3/4 of the way down the first page on the Urabus site.

Tom
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Warren, you can count me in on the group purchase of a custom oil pan. If we
don't make it over the required 25 subscribers, then I'll have to go for the
alternative: a modified oil pan with 1.75" reduction for $200.

Warren Chapman wrote:

I spoke this morning with the manufacturing rep for a large
aftermarket and racing oil pan manufacturer who says that for a
minumum order of 25-50 units will make a pan to order for our
specifications. Price will be subject to design specs but
approximately $200/unit sounds feasible with prices dropping with
size of run. We have previously discussed a "chopped" pan that would cost

this much!

I would expect 25-50 units should be no trouble for this group (with
75 members and growing) and I expect KEP would be interested in a
standing order.

Now.....for the engineers out there......WHO WILL DESIGN THE THING??

I'll start my design sketches tomorrow
-Larry
'86 Syncro Double Cab with Subaru EJ22
'86 Syncro Westfalia with VW WBX

HOW DOES THE COLD SYSTEM OPERATE??

Warren,

We would be good for 2 of those oil pans, would prefer pressed steel to cast
alum as we have had problems with aftermarket sumps on air cooled motors
before.

I had a oil sump drain bolt near disaster in the first 1000 miles of my
Vubaru's life.
We took some Venture Scouts down to Bahia Los Angeles in Baja for sailing
and fun right after
Christmas in 1998, my conversion had 500 miles on it (confident or dumb, you
decide)
We were towing a 25' C Class Catamaran and wind surfers etc. about 2k
trailer load.
We got on a dubious access road to the campsite at night and found a pothole
that had no bottom,
The truck got by the hole but one wheel of the trailer dropped in and
STOPPED the whole rig
as one. I discovered that A. my towing bumper is very STRONG but that B. the
tongue, axel etc. were seriouly
mangled. Luckily we were only 2 miles from camp and were able to dig all out
and lick our wounds in Heaven
for a few days while we fixed it.

Unbeknownst to me ( other than the obvious clue that there was a slight drip
from the drain plug) the drain
plug had hit upon a rock in just the right manner to slightly loosen it.
Long story shorter.
5 days later after having driven 200 miles to the nearest gas station I
looked under the truck and there is a puddle
of oil about 6 " in dia/ and growing, and we had onlu been there 30 secs
or so. I grabbed a crescent wrench and 3 turns later it was fixed.
It only had approx. 1 more turn to fall comletely out and we fry the motor a
long way from home.

If it is possible to design so that the Drain Plug is not promiently
protruding at bottom that would be even better.
Hey we're not asking for too much here are we??

Jay
1985 Dbl Cab Vubaru Truck

PS we are doing the Baja trip again this year after Christmas, any Venture
Scouts out there who want to go?

Tom Myers wrote:

To calculate Subaru oilpan-to-ground clearance, measure the distance
from your rear suspension pivot bolt (just ahead of the rear tire).
Subtract 5.5 inches.

Yup, pretty darn close. I have one of those lowered '88s with LT195/75 R14
(Bridgestone Dueler A/T) tires. The pivot bolts are 11 1/2" off the ground
and my oil pan is 6 3/8" - 7" off the ground.

Dick Myers
Grass Valley, CA

Does any of our kind live anywhere near Virginia? I would like to
see a real live conversion as mine is taking sooooo long to
complete. Seeing one would really give me some inspiration to finish
mine!

I should get off this computer and carry my But to the garage, RIGHT?

Brian
86 Syncro
Suffolk, VA

Wings would prevent access to the oilpan bolts, so it might require a
2-piece design, (more expense...., more leaks).

If the bolts are accessible through wells (tubes welded into the pan) wings
would be feasible.


Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin
New Zealand
Molluscophile
69 VW Kombi-Corvair
75 VW Kombi (ex Toyota 3.5 V8)
84 VW T3 Caravelle GL/SVX
85 Mitsubishi Sigma Super Saloon 2.0
86 Toyota Corolla DX 1.8 diesel (410000km plus 30000+ rewound, going strong)
89 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel (508000 km plus 30000+rewound,going
strong)

To calculate Subaru oilpan-to-ground clearance, measure the distance from your rear suspension pivot bolt (just ahead of the rear tire). Subtract 5.5 inches.

Tom
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The Robert Bentley Volkswagen Vanagon repair manual 1980-1991 shows
the flow going from the engine to the heater valve then thru the core
on the forward heater and on the rear seat heater thru the core then
to the heater valve and back to the engine.

The 1983-1985 engine outlet to the heaters comes from the passenger
side head on the VW engine and the return from the heaters connects
to a crossover pipe which runs runs from the passenger side to the
driver side of the engine.

The 1986+ engine outlet to the heaters runs from the distribution
unit supplied by an outlet on the passenger side head and the return
from the heaters to a pipe that looks as though it eventualy ends up
delivering to the expansion tank.

Hi Warren,

I'd be interested in a solution for sure.

Wings would prevent access to the oilpan bolts, so it might require a 2-piece design, (more expense...., more leaks). I put a stock oilpan photo on the Urabus site, on the top page (3/4 of the way down). Soon I will add a pic of the oilpan interior. I need to put an index on that page someday.......

A route for the dipstick (from licenseplate) would have to poke thru the plastic timing belt cover. Easy to imagine but difficult to drill accurately. Also need to locate the proper grommetry to reseal the intrusion.

A deep oilpan is nice to have on an 8000 rpm motor and for hard cornering. My Subaru engine does not have those tasks anymore.

But with any horiz-opposed motor (four hot pistons North South East and West (or six)) it's good to let the oil get out of the heat. VW keeps the oil up in the broiling zone but adds a cooler. Subaru lets the oil get away from the heat, but risks Exxon Valdez.....

In the meantime, plug all the leaks and don't burn any oil.

Tom

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I have a Porsche 911 that has an external oil tank, and keep thinking
that there should be some way of adapting the technology for use in a
Subagon. If I can ever make myself stay home on a weekend (just
love that Subaru power in the high Sierra) I'll try to look into it
further, but thought I'd see if anyone has looked into the
possibility
of using an external oil tank? Has anyone investigated this?

Hi Mark,

It's possible that your 911 has a "dry sump". This would be very difficult to do on the Subaru.
However, I believe an external tank that's drainable/fillable during oil change is in the right direction.

Tom
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Here's the URL to Dick's tachometer schematic on our Urabus site:



Dick's using this method and it works fine.

Tom
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I spoke this morning with the manufacturing rep for a large
aftermarket and racing oil pan manufacturer who says that for a
minumum order of 25-50 units will make a pan to order for our
specifications. Price will be subject to design specs but
approximately $200/unit sounds feasible with prices dropping with
size
of run. We have previously discussed a "chopped" pan that would cost
this much!

I would expect 25-50 units should be no trouble for this group (with
75 members and growing) and I expect KEP would be interested in a
standing order.

Now.....for the engineers out there......WHO WILL DESIGN THE THING??

This is a chance for a wide or "winged" pan that could solve
the clearance problems for 2wd and Syncro conversions and also have
the dipstick available at the license plate flap. Another option
would be for a socket for a temp sensor.

Gentlemen.....start your pencils...START DESIGNING!!!

P.S. Does anyone know if the 2.2l and 2.5l use the same oil pan
(thinking for the future....are you listening KEP???)


Warren Chapman
'90 Syncro Westy

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "KEP" <kennedy@h...> wrote:
Hobert,
Thanks for the info.
Brian
86 Syncro
Suffolk, VA

Do not cut any of the VW wires. Unbolt and remove all the wires

under the

back seat and in the engine compartment except the tail light

wires. You

can leave the box on the firewall but pull the guts out of it.

Hobert Kennedy
Kennedy Engineered Products
38830 17th St. East
Palmdale, CA 93550

(661) 272-1147
----- Original Message -----
From: <b.l.yonker@w...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 6:18 PM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] VW wiring-HELP!


I am in the process of my conversion and I am having trouble

figuring

out the VW wiring.

1) Do I cut the vw wiring out of the picture except the ones I

need?

2) Do I completely take out the VW ECU from under the back seat or
does it stay?

3) What about the VW coil and engine wiring box on the firewall
close to the coil? I know that the majority of my needed wires are
in this box, but there are alot of extras in there also.

Am I totally overlooking something here about the VW wiring harness
and ECU?

Please any and all help is appreciated.

Brian
1986 Syncro GL
Suffolk, VA


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--- In subaruvanagon@..., Tom Myers <TomMyers@c...> wrote:
Tom,

I really appreciate your help with my wiring dilema. Though I do
have to disagree with you on the removal of the VW wiring Bundle for
the ECU. I got the ECU and wiring harness out in about 15 minutes as
compared to 2 hours on my donor Legacy.

Again thanks

Brian
86 Syncro
Suffolk, VA