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Re: '91 Westie with '07 Forester 2.5

 

Hi Joel,
We were up near Tadusac a couple of years ago, doing some canoeing, hiking and whale watching.
We won't be heading out towards Labrador until the end of Busfusion. Either the Sunday or Monday. So a wee bit behind you.
Let us know where you are in a couple of weeks.
Terry


On Sat, 24 May 2025, 19:43 JoelLib via , <joelliberte=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Terry,
Sorry for the delayed response.?

We didn't go to busfusion, headed out for Labrador on the 20th.

We have been taking our time heading out,? currently in Tadoussac Quebec.? The weather has been miserable so if you haven't left yet,? wait a day or two.

If you have and are in this direction,? we are staying at the Tadoussac campground on the east side of the ferry.? ?Will be here till Monday 26th, at a minimum.? The electrical issue reappeared and we are stuck here till a new alternator comes in,? hopefully miss afternoon monday.??

Stop by, we're obvious,? and i have a few pints to share.?

Safe, and trouble free travels.? ?Be great if we can meet up.?

Joel L


On Wed, May 21, 2025, 10:23?a.m. Noras dad via <norasonlydad=[email protected]> wrote:
Hola Joel,
We are usually parked near the back entrance. Brown guy in a brown Westy named Winston.?
I actually have a couple of spare computers for my 2002 2.5 n/a Subie. Let me know if I should bring one. Hmmm, maybe I'll bring it anyway, I heard parts of the Labrador road are a wee bit rough.
Terry


Terry A Shaw

On Mon, 19 May 2025, 23:03 wallaces_21 via , <grandfatherjim=[email protected]> wrote:
Terry,
I'd like to connect with you at BusFusion to compare our conversions. I'm trying to figure out just which engine I have and it may be the same as yours, in our 85.
We'll likely be parked near the ag hall end; ask around as lots of people know us, and I'll try to find you too.
Cheers,?
Jim Wallace?

On Mon, May 19, 2025, 9:27 p.m. Noras dad via <norasonlydad=[email protected]> wrote:
Yo Joel,?
Glad to see you got this prob figured out.
Let me know when you are headed up to Labrador/ Newfoundland please.
We are heading on that journey directly after BUSfusion in Almonte Ontario.
Would be great to sup on a pop somewhere along the route.?
85 Westy ( Winston)with 2002 N/A 2.5 Subie with Tod's reverse ring and pinion installed in his 5 speed tranny.
Terry

Terry A Shaw

On Fri, 16 May 2025, 15:11 JoelLib via , <joelliberte=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello all,
Hoping someone may have an idea, been working on this for a few days with little success, and of course we are supposed to be heading out for a 6 week trip across Labrador & Newfoundland.

Had the conversion done a year ago, everything was fantastic for last year's 12,000 km trip to the west coast of BC. (Should have done the conversion year's ago)

Couple days ago was heading to the garage for a minor upgrade, when things started to 'turn off', until the van was barely able to run, battery down to ~7V.? I have a battery switch to flip between vehicle and house battery, enabling me to go the additional distance.

We have tried 4 different alternators, with the engine running all of them max 12.4 V.? Have unplugged the alternator cables so no load, still only about 12.4V.? Take them out of my van, install in another, and they go up to around 14.4V.??

Belt seems ok, cam shaft pulley also ok.

Do one of the 3 connectors on the one plug of the alternator provide some kind of V sensing where if it isn't connected or loose/corroded, so max the alternator puts out is around 12.4V?? If yes, where is the other end of that going?

Any other ideas or thoughts are much appreciated.

Joel L


Re: '91 Westie with '07 Forester 2.5

 

Hi Terry,
Sorry for the delayed response.?

We didn't go to busfusion, headed out for Labrador on the 20th.

We have been taking our time heading out,? currently in Tadoussac Quebec.? The weather has been miserable so if you haven't left yet,? wait a day or two.

If you have and are in this direction,? we are staying at the Tadoussac campground on the east side of the ferry.? ?Will be here till Monday 26th, at a minimum.? The electrical issue reappeared and we are stuck here till a new alternator comes in,? hopefully miss afternoon monday.??

Stop by, we're obvious,? and i have a few pints to share.?

Safe, and trouble free travels.? ?Be great if we can meet up.?

Joel L


On Wed, May 21, 2025, 10:23?a.m. Noras dad via <norasonlydad=[email protected]> wrote:
Hola Joel,
We are usually parked near the back entrance. Brown guy in a brown Westy named Winston.?
I actually have a couple of spare computers for my 2002 2.5 n/a Subie. Let me know if I should bring one. Hmmm, maybe I'll bring it anyway, I heard parts of the Labrador road are a wee bit rough.
Terry


Terry A Shaw

On Mon, 19 May 2025, 23:03 wallaces_21 via , <grandfatherjim=[email protected]> wrote:
Terry,
I'd like to connect with you at BusFusion to compare our conversions. I'm trying to figure out just which engine I have and it may be the same as yours, in our 85.
We'll likely be parked near the ag hall end; ask around as lots of people know us, and I'll try to find you too.
Cheers,?
Jim Wallace?

On Mon, May 19, 2025, 9:27 p.m. Noras dad via <norasonlydad=[email protected]> wrote:
Yo Joel,?
Glad to see you got this prob figured out.
Let me know when you are headed up to Labrador/ Newfoundland please.
We are heading on that journey directly after BUSfusion in Almonte Ontario.
Would be great to sup on a pop somewhere along the route.?
85 Westy ( Winston)with 2002 N/A 2.5 Subie with Tod's reverse ring and pinion installed in his 5 speed tranny.
Terry

Terry A Shaw

On Fri, 16 May 2025, 15:11 JoelLib via , <joelliberte=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello all,
Hoping someone may have an idea, been working on this for a few days with little success, and of course we are supposed to be heading out for a 6 week trip across Labrador & Newfoundland.

Had the conversion done a year ago, everything was fantastic for last year's 12,000 km trip to the west coast of BC. (Should have done the conversion year's ago)

Couple days ago was heading to the garage for a minor upgrade, when things started to 'turn off', until the van was barely able to run, battery down to ~7V.? I have a battery switch to flip between vehicle and house battery, enabling me to go the additional distance.

We have tried 4 different alternators, with the engine running all of them max 12.4 V.? Have unplugged the alternator cables so no load, still only about 12.4V.? Take them out of my van, install in another, and they go up to around 14.4V.??

Belt seems ok, cam shaft pulley also ok.

Do one of the 3 connectors on the one plug of the alternator provide some kind of V sensing where if it isn't connected or loose/corroded, so max the alternator puts out is around 12.4V?? If yes, where is the other end of that going?

Any other ideas or thoughts are much appreciated.

Joel L


Re: Harness loose wire q¡¯s

 
Edited

Pics would help. Edit: check here for engine wiring diagrams for your year. Wire colors may vary.? ?
https://jdmfsm.info/Auto/Japan/Subaru/
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Harness loose wire q¡¯s

 

Hey all!!?

I have diligently labeled and sorted my wiring harness and I think I should be able to test it before installing when my OBD2 Bluetooth dongle arrives tomorrow. Huge thanks to the diagrams/charts from y¡¯all, small car, and the busaroo videos on YouTube!?
?
However I have a couple of wires I haven¡¯t figured out. Our donor Subaru is a 2001 Legacy EJ25.
?
*on the green diagnostic port there is a black and white wire. Is that just to go to a ground??

* there is what appears to be a fusable link attached to the ECU plug B136. The wires come from the ecu plug are yellow/blue and red/yellow. The other two wires that come out of the plug terminate¡­.any clue where they go??

thanks!
?
?Nick!


Re: I am looking for the best conversion kit

 

I used the Smallcar engine carrier and intake and the Outfront Motorsports adapter plate, flywheel and shortened pan.?

Stan¡¯s Headers exhaust manifold.?

The LUK clutch I installed was good for 80,000 miles.?

Jake
------------------------------------------
Crescent Beach, BC
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1984 GL 1.9 WBX
1986 Westy Weekender with 2000 2.5 SOHC Subaru, 5 speed transaxle & PosiTrac Differential


On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 9:17?AM douglas Hillman via <dhillmanskibum=[email protected]> wrote:
I already have a suburb 2.5 that was recently professionally rebuilt.? I read small cars clutch could be problematic but the article was old.? Just want to start with solid parts but have to order asap.? Wondered what parts the garages are using that professionally do the swaps?? ?Thanks. Forward progress on rainy? NH day.


On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 5:04 PM, Richard Montgomery via
<rikmont=[email protected]> wrote:
I have found the Bostig Kit (2000-2004 Ford Focus base) good: lots of them out there for next to nothing, and Jim Akiba is so good at answering any questions not covered in his online manual: that said, he is now prototyping a kit for Honda 24A engines (Accord) and has several early adapters doing beta testing. and I think he has sold the last of his Focus kits, though he still supports those customers. I am impressed with him, and his kit. Good luck with your search, and let us know what you do choose & how satisfied you are with it.

All the best,
Rick in Austin, TX

On Friday, May 23, 2025 at 09:44:51 AM CDT, John A via <xstreamcanadian=[email protected]> wrote:


They all have their pluses and minuses. If you have a 2.1 I¡¯d consider looking into Marco Mansi upgrades, I have a 1.9 and went with RMW. Their support kind of sucks and their instructions also are not amazing, but you should be able to get help from the group. The items I have purchased from Smallcar in the past have not been of great quality and I don¡¯t like their buried clutch slave cylinder idea, so that wasn¡¯t for me. The bostig kit is honestly a kind of stupid. Makes no sense to use a hard to find motor that doesn¡¯t really give much more HP and sits too low. Same with the diesel kit, now I¡¯m trying to remember what that¡¯s called, it¡¯s very very expensive, very well put together and super high quality but you end up with an engine that sits VERY low and that is not for me, nor was I interested in a diesel. The think with all of them is that the ¡°kit¡± isn¡¯t complete. None of them really are. The diesel one seems to be the most complete. With RMW you¡¯ll need someone to do your harness(I used Jeff at Autoventures as he is the best and has amazing support) also you¡¯ll need an oil pan, a better intake, an engine to start with that isn¡¯t tired and high miles, likely a transmission refresh on yours, new clutch, also get the tank reservoir as it¡¯s great and bomb proof. Replace the sensors on the motor with new oem ones, likely you¡¯ll also need a subie timing belt kit. I probably missed things but that should give you an idea of what you¡¯re getting into. Also these are strictly my opinions and are meaningless to anyone but me, so there is that?



On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 7:39?PM dhillmanskibum via <dhillmanskibum=[email protected]> wrote:
What's the best conversion kit


Re: I am looking for the best conversion kit

 

I already have a suburb 2.5 that was recently professionally rebuilt.? I read small cars clutch could be problematic but the article was old.? Just want to start with solid parts but have to order asap.? Wondered what parts the garages are using that professionally do the swaps?? ?Thanks. Forward progress on rainy? NH day.


On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 5:04 PM, Richard Montgomery via groups.io
<rikmont@...> wrote:
I have found the Bostig Kit (2000-2004 Ford Focus base) good: lots of them out there for next to nothing, and Jim Akiba is so good at answering any questions not covered in his online manual: that said, he is now prototyping a kit for Honda 24A engines (Accord) and has several early adapters doing beta testing. and I think he has sold the last of his Focus kits, though he still supports those customers. I am impressed with him, and his kit. Good luck with your search, and let us know what you do choose & how satisfied you are with it.

All the best,
Rick in Austin, TX

On Friday, May 23, 2025 at 09:44:51 AM CDT, John A via groups.io <xstreamcanadian@...> wrote:


They all have their pluses and minuses. If you have a 2.1 I¡¯d consider looking into Marco Mansi upgrades, I have a 1.9 and went with RMW. Their support kind of sucks and their instructions also are not amazing, but you should be able to get help from the group. The items I have purchased from Smallcar in the past have not been of great quality and I don¡¯t like their buried clutch slave cylinder idea, so that wasn¡¯t for me. The bostig kit is honestly a kind of stupid. Makes no sense to use a hard to find motor that doesn¡¯t really give much more HP and sits too low. Same with the diesel kit, now I¡¯m trying to remember what that¡¯s called, it¡¯s very very expensive, very well put together and super high quality but you end up with an engine that sits VERY low and that is not for me, nor was I interested in a diesel. The think with all of them is that the ¡°kit¡± isn¡¯t complete. None of them really are. The diesel one seems to be the most complete. With RMW you¡¯ll need someone to do your harness(I used Jeff at Autoventures as he is the best and has amazing support) also you¡¯ll need an oil pan, a better intake, an engine to start with that isn¡¯t tired and high miles, likely a transmission refresh on yours, new clutch, also get the tank reservoir as it¡¯s great and bomb proof. Replace the sensors on the motor with new oem ones, likely you¡¯ll also need a subie timing belt kit. I probably missed things but that should give you an idea of what you¡¯re getting into. Also these are strictly my opinions and are meaningless to anyone but me, so there is that?



On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 7:39?PM dhillmanskibum via groups.io <dhillmanskibum@...> wrote:
What's the best conversion kit


Re: Snorkel set up

 

Routing the ducting up the pillar is no problem.?

As you mentioned, the tough part is working around the A/C lines. It is a tight fit and I believe I had to bend the mounting bracket just slightly to get everything to fit.?


Re: I am looking for the best conversion kit

 

I have found the Bostig Kit (2000-2004 Ford Focus base) good: lots of them out there for next to nothing, and Jim Akiba is so good at answering any questions not covered in his online manual: that said, he is now prototyping a kit for Honda 24A engines (Accord) and has several early adapters doing beta testing. and I think he has sold the last of his Focus kits, though he still supports those customers. I am impressed with him, and his kit. Good luck with your search, and let us know what you do choose & how satisfied you are with it.

All the best,
Rick in Austin, TX

On Friday, May 23, 2025 at 09:44:51 AM CDT, John A via groups.io <xstreamcanadian@...> wrote:


They all have their pluses and minuses. If you have a 2.1 I¡¯d consider looking into Marco Mansi upgrades, I have a 1.9 and went with RMW. Their support kind of sucks and their instructions also are not amazing, but you should be able to get help from the group. The items I have purchased from Smallcar in the past have not been of great quality and I don¡¯t like their buried clutch slave cylinder idea, so that wasn¡¯t for me. The bostig kit is honestly a kind of stupid. Makes no sense to use a hard to find motor that doesn¡¯t really give much more HP and sits too low. Same with the diesel kit, now I¡¯m trying to remember what that¡¯s called, it¡¯s very very expensive, very well put together and super high quality but you end up with an engine that sits VERY low and that is not for me, nor was I interested in a diesel. The think with all of them is that the ¡°kit¡± isn¡¯t complete. None of them really are. The diesel one seems to be the most complete. With RMW you¡¯ll need someone to do your harness(I used Jeff at Autoventures as he is the best and has amazing support) also you¡¯ll need an oil pan, a better intake, an engine to start with that isn¡¯t tired and high miles, likely a transmission refresh on yours, new clutch, also get the tank reservoir as it¡¯s great and bomb proof. Replace the sensors on the motor with new oem ones, likely you¡¯ll also need a subie timing belt kit. I probably missed things but that should give you an idea of what you¡¯re getting into. Also these are strictly my opinions and are meaningless to anyone but me, so there is that?



On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 7:39?PM dhillmanskibum via groups.io <dhillmanskibum@...> wrote:
What's the best conversion kit


Re: Snorkel set up

 

I¡¯ve ordered the Smallcar intake with snorkel. Was it difficult to get it mounted up the column? ?Also I¡¯m a bit concerned because I have AC hoses and wiring back there in my Westy. Hope it will all fit!
-
Warren
89 Westy?
88 Tintop
70 Westy


Re: Snorkel set up

 

Great idea.
--
Warren
89 Westy?
88 Tintop
70 Westy


Re: Snorkel set up

 

If you need a round shape you can use a heatgun and a wood bar with the desired diameter et voila !?

Lots of BMW bikers and myself did this on their intake pipe in order to get a good breathe on their flat twin ;)??


Le?ven. 23 mai 2025 ¨¤ 22:50, SubieVanagon via <wklail=[email protected]> a ¨¦crit?:
Attaching the stock snorkel might be a challenge because the opening at the bottom is oval.?

--
Warren
89 Westy?
88 Tintop
70 Westy


Re: Snorkel set up

 

I'm using the which includes provisions to run their included ducting up the driver's side pillar.
?


Re: Snorkel set up

 

Attaching the stock snorkel might be a challenge because the opening at the bottom is oval.?

--
Warren
89 Westy?
88 Tintop
70 Westy


Re: Snorkel set up

 
Edited

Exactly. Mine was way worse than this too.? I want fresh air in the intake. Heck VW even designed it this way.

My question is: How did you connect the airbox to the stock snorkel?


Re: Snorkel set up

 

No, I now have the ¡°snorkel¡± routed all the way up the pillar to the roof line, basically.?


Re: Snorkel set up

 

I¡¯m done with warm air intake and dust clogged air filters. I have forged a river that was deeper than expected and I won¡¯t stress about that anymore. Three cheers for VL! P.S., I won the snorkel at Syncrofest. But I would have purchased it regardless. ?

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 11:05 Ryan C via <candagrm=[email protected]> wrote:
I live in Colorado and generally hadn¡¯t had too many problems with regular filter replacement/maintenance.?
?
I took one trip to Moab and the K&N-style cone setup I had was absolutely caked in fine red dust after a trip down the Schafer Trail.
?
I¡¯ve since upgraded to the Small Car snorkel setup with the Subaru filter. ?


Re: Snorkel set up

 

Great, fact based evidence from out west ( we know dirt and dust ;-)? ) ! So now, with your SC filter setup,? do you have to clean out allot of dirt ?

?- Sean G


On Friday, May 23, 2025 at 11:05:05 AM MST, Ryan C via groups.io <candagrm@...> wrote:

I live in Colorado and generally hadn¡¯t had too many problems with regular filter replacement/maintenance.?
?
I took one trip to Moab and the K&N-style cone setup I had was absolutely caked in fine red dust after a trip down the Schafer Trail.
?
I¡¯ve since upgraded to the Small Car snorkel setup with the Subaru filter. ?


Re: Snorkel set up

 


Re: Snorkel set up

 

I live in Colorado and generally hadn¡¯t had too many problems with regular filter replacement/maintenance.?
?
I took one trip to Moab and the K&N-style cone setup I had was absolutely caked in fine red dust after a trip down the Schafer Trail.
?
I¡¯ve since upgraded to the Small Car snorkel setup with the Subaru filter. ?


Re: Snorkel set up

 

I agree, this probably more true here.?
However we are not running the DAKAR or BAJA. I believe we are all recreational folks here. Not professional driver running dirt race circuits... and my non-snorkel set up proves it (for at least myself). To each their own however.

Sean G


On Friday, May 23, 2025 at 10:30:35 AM MST, Ryan C via groups.io <candagrm@...> wrote:


I think when most people mention the snorkel it is not in the true sense of the word, for the purpose of fording a river.?

Personally, I just wanted something that would get the intake up and away from the dusting environment that can be the engine compartment.?