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Re: Selling my old 2.1

 

Just pulled mine out a couple weeks ago, put on Samba and EBay, no luck yet. I live in Montana, asking $800. Good luck. Michael

Michael Hiel
Gardenwwerks
On Mar 31, 2012, at 8:32 AM, "rthypno" <rthypno@...> wrote:

Has anyone had any luck selling their old VW 2.1 L and how?




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Re: Installing a RMW reversed manifold coolant system in 84 vanagon with EJ22

 

Thanks for the tip Gavin. How does your coolant system work now? Are you happy overall with the row coolant system?

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "gavin.ferguson1982" <gavin.ferguson@...> wrote:

Dave,

If you ever intend to travel to hot climates in the summer, I'd leave the parts in. It wouldn't be too hard to source the other parts and pieces, and adapt the EJ compressor hoses to the VW stuff.

As far as function of the raditor is concerned, I don't have the knowledge to comment on that.

PS - On the RMW coolant lines, you will not be able to use the same metal straps that hold your current ones in place. I tried to rebend mine, and they would still not fit.

I eneded up fabbing my own straps to hand them, and drilled some new holes to attach one end of the strap to the body. Just an FYI.

Gavin

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "davidasalyer" <davidasalyer@> wrote:

Hi,

I'm in the process of installing new stainless steel coolant pipes, new radiator, and switching over to the Rocky Mountain Westy reversed manifold system.

My question is: should I just remove the AC condenser (radiator) for good while I'm at it? The rest of the AC components were removed long ago for more storage. I think the AC radiator is one piece, but it is a weird shape that is separated into a small and large rectangles. I'd like to understand that part better.

It will result in a lot more air getting to the radiator with that thing removed, thus my hesitation...

Thanks,

Dave


Re: Installing a RMW reversed manifold coolant system in 84 vanagon with EJ22

 

Dave,

If you ever intend to travel to hot climates in the summer, I'd leave the parts in. It wouldn't be too hard to source the other parts and pieces, and adapt the EJ compressor hoses to the VW stuff.

As far as function of the raditor is concerned, I don't have the knowledge to comment on that.

PS - On the RMW coolant lines, you will not be able to use the same metal straps that hold your current ones in place. I tried to rebend mine, and they would still not fit.

I eneded up fabbing my own straps to hand them, and drilled some new holes to attach one end of the strap to the body. Just an FYI.

Gavin

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "davidasalyer" <davidasalyer@...> wrote:

Hi,

I'm in the process of installing new stainless steel coolant pipes, new radiator, and switching over to the Rocky Mountain Westy reversed manifold system.

My question is: should I just remove the AC condenser (radiator) for good while I'm at it? The rest of the AC components were removed long ago for more storage. I think the AC radiator is one piece, but it is a weird shape that is separated into a small and large rectangles. I'd like to understand that part better.

It will result in a lot more air getting to the radiator with that thing removed, thus my hesitation...

Thanks,

Dave


Re: CA Emmissions Fail Help Update

dennis miller
 

Brian



High NOX is caused by high combustion temps—this is why EGR was invented. I don’t know these early engines but if it has an EGR system, I’d check that first. The classic test is to apply vacuum to the EGR diaphragm and it should kill the engine or make it run rough at idle. If that works then you still have to check whether the EGR is turning on during normal running by making sure every vac hose is hooked up and revving the engine to maybe 3k RPMs and see if the diaphragm is getting vacuum and the EGR passages are getting hot. Also, when you clear a code you have to drive about 50 miles to reset the monitors in the ECU or it won’t pass smog for a different reason.



Otherwise it would be a lean condition perhaps in just one cylinder, not enough to push the other numbers too high. Checking the plug colors could be helpful to see if they are uniform.



Dennis



From: subaruvanagon@... [mailto:subaruvanagon@...] On Behalf Of Brian McHugh
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 4:56 PM
To: subaruvanagon@...
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] CA Emmissions Fail Help Update





I got the ck light to clear, turned out to be the OSX counter on the spedo cable. Still have the stored code on the ecu but no active light. Still have to find the cause of the high NOX readings.
From: brianmchugh22
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 3:54 PM
To: subaruvanagon@... <mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [subaruvanagon] CA Emmissions Fail Help

I have a 85 Vanagon with a 92 EJ22 manual transmission engine that has just failed emmissions in CA. The engine has around 200k on it. The readings are as follows.

15mph 1786rpm CO2 13.9 O2 .9 HC 66 CO .72 NO 1348
25mph 1639rpm CO2 13.9 O2 .9 HC 72 CO .69 NO 1432

It failed on the NO as the allowable was 1085 and 1120.

The ck eng. light is lit. I am getting code 24 with the black connectors connected. I did just clean the idle air valve as I had a poor idle and occasional stalling after comming off of load. Runs fine now. O2 sensor, plugs, and CAT were replaced after a problem that melted the orignal CAT and blew out the muffler a few months ago. Turned out to be a loose sensor wire that has been corrected. No running problems now.

Any ideas, bad CAT????

Thanks,
Brian
San Diego, CA


Re: CA Emmissions Fail Help Update

 

I got the ck light to clear, turned out to be the OSX counter on the spedo cable. Still have the stored code on the ecu but no active light. Still have to find the cause of the high NOX readings.
From: brianmchugh22
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 3:54 PM
To: subaruvanagon@...
Subject: [subaruvanagon] CA Emmissions Fail Help


I have a 85 Vanagon with a 92 EJ22 manual transmission engine that has just failed emmissions in CA. The engine has around 200k on it. The readings are as follows.

15mph 1786rpm CO2 13.9 O2 .9 HC 66 CO .72 NO 1348
25mph 1639rpm CO2 13.9 O2 .9 HC 72 CO .69 NO 1432

It failed on the NO as the allowable was 1085 and 1120.

The ck eng. light is lit. I am getting code 24 with the black connectors connected. I did just clean the idle air valve as I had a poor idle and occasional stalling after comming off of load. Runs fine now. O2 sensor, plugs, and CAT were replaced after a problem that melted the orignal CAT and blew out the muffler a few months ago. Turned out to be a loose sensor wire that has been corrected. No running problems now.

Any ideas, bad CAT????

Thanks,
Brian
San Diego, CA





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Installing a RMW reversed manifold coolant system in 84 vanagon with EJ22

 

Hi,

I'm in the process of installing new stainless steel coolant pipes, new radiator, and switching over to the Rocky Mountain Westy reversed manifold system.

My question is: should I just remove the AC condenser (radiator) for good while I'm at it? The rest of the AC components were removed long ago for more storage. I think the AC radiator is one piece, but it is a weird shape that is separated into a small and large rectangles. I'd like to understand that part better.

It will result in a lot more air getting to the radiator with that thing removed, thus my hesitation...

Thanks,

Dave


Re: Vanagon with a DOHC 2.5 engine in North or South Carolina.

 

Darrel,
It sounds like we are closing in on the same end, though my engine is not in
the bus yet. Good luck.

jim henry
durham, nc
84 westy

_____

From: subaruvanagon@... [mailto:subaruvanagon@...]
On Behalf Of darrelp86
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 20:44
To: subaruvanagon@...
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: Vanagon with a DOHC 2.5 engine in North or
South Carolina.




Over the weekend I finally started opening up the wiring harness in the
engine compartment of the Vanagon, and made some progress until I was
overcome by a bad case of bronchitis. My very preliminary findings are:
Whoever did the wiring modification had the proper gauge wire, but had a
limited choice of colors - therefore no continuity of colors from the inside
to the outside of the harness. I found that the 2 long wire pigtails that
come out of one of the sub-harnesses are part of the charging system. Using
the wiring diagram for a 99 Legacy, the large red wire goes to hot with
ignition in the run position, and the small black wire goes to the alt.
lamp. The other 3 wire pigtails that come out of the main harness are: red
to battery voltage, one of the orange wires is hot when ign is in crank
position, and the other orange wire is hot when ign. is in run position. I
plan to re-verify this this coming weekend, and move on to the wires that go
to and from the relay bank mounted in the engine compartment. In the
meantime, however, I thought that I might ask if there are any preferred
locations to splice these wires into the Vanagon electrical system, as
opposed to just using the wiring diagram to find locations that would appear
to be appropriate sources for each circuit. Thanks !!

--- In subaruvanagon@...
<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com> , DARREL PENNIGAR <darrelp86@...>
wrote:

Thanks Kent, Brent, James, and Scott for your timely response. It does
appear, however that James and I have one common connection, however. Yes,
James, this is the vehicle that was at the Hot Rod shop near Raleigh. The
shop owner said that he thought that the wiring harness was sent to someone
in Chapel Hill to be modified, but I'd be willing to bet that it was done by
the same person in Raleigh thad did yours. Much of the wiring has been
installed, but there are still a number of wires, almost all without
connectors on the ends, that need to find a home. The wires had all been
tagged with paper tags indicating where they went, but after sitting outside
for a couple of years, the printing on almost every tag has faded to the
point that it is illegible. One big question that I have is concerning 3
relays that are part of my harness. These are 3 identical relays that are
mounted together on the left side of the engine compartment. There are wires
coming from the harness bundle that attach to the relays, and then there
are wire pigtails about 10" long that come from the relays and are hanging
loose. With time, I think I could trace out the rest of the wires, to
determine where they go, but since the relays are not factory Subaru, I
can't even guess what their purpose might be, or where the pigtails should
be attached. Do you know, by chance, the name of the shop that did your
harness modification? If they are still in business, maybe we could get a
little assistance from them. In the meantime, I thought I'd try to make some
photos of the different areas I have questions about in the next few days,
and post them for inspection by any helpful group members. Thanks again,
everyone for your assistance !!

--- On Mon, 3/5/12, James Henry <jch@...> wrote:


From: James Henry <jch@...>
Subject: RE: [subaruvanagon] Vanagon with a DOHC 2.5 engine in North or
South Carolina.
To: subaruvanagon@... <mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, March 5, 2012, 4:35 PM


Darrel,

I am another NC vanagon owner with a 2.5 (96) that is incomplete and could
use some input. I think I have most of mine figured out, except for
wiring.
My wiring harness was done a shop in Raleigh, but never installed, not
really finished. I have finally found the time and courage to get into it
and figure it out. I am hoping to put it in the vanagon this weekend if I
can get answers to a couple of questions. Brent, your site has been
enormously helpful. I have most of the other parts figured out. I think.

Brent or Scott, or anyone else, I could do a video chat through FaceBook,
or
Microsoft Messenger, or WebX from my laptop and interactively ask a couple
of questions, if you would be up for it. You would not need video at your
end, we could talk via telephone. A laptop in the shop is a wonderful
thing.

I have a reverse cooling system from Tom Shields, and a lot of SmallCar
parts. This project has been going on for too many years, Tom has been
very
helpful, as has SmallCar. Darrel, I am not that far from Charlotte, maybe
we
could collaborate. I could even come to Charlotte. Did you buy your
project
from a hotrod shop south of Raleigh? You beat me to it if you did. I am in
Durham.

Thanks to all for any and all help. I hope that I have not jumped your
thread here Darrel, sounds like we are sharing some common problems and
are
working to the same end.

We need to have these done and ready to show off at EveryBus in April!!!!!
www.everybus2012.com

Jim Henry
Durham, NC
84 Westy


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From: subaruvanagon@...
<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:subaruvanagon@...
<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of DARREL
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 21:42
To: subaruvanagon@... <mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Vanagon with a DOHC 2.5 engine in North or South
Carolina.




I am trying to complete the installation of a 99 2.5 DOHC engine in an 86
Vanagon Weekender. I bought this vehicle from a third party seller, who
had
very little information about the vehicle, other than that the engine was
from a 99 Legacy with 44,000 miles, and that he heard it run before it was
removed from the Subaru. I talked to small car, and from my description,
they said it did not sound like the modification parts were from them. The
seller did say that he possibly remembered that the owner mentioned
getting
a modification kit from a Subaruvanagon member named Bryan, spelled with a
Y
instead of an I. The installation appears to be about 80-85% complete, but
there are still some areas that have me at a loss. If I could have the
opportunity to look at a completed installation, I think it would give me
enough information to get this project wrapped up in time for camping
season. SO - I'm wondering if anyone within a 2-3 hour drive of Charlotte,
NC would have a V-gon with a 2.5 DOHC that I could come and inspect, and
maybe make a few photos of the areas I have questions about, so I can get
this vehicle on the road. Thanks in advance! Darrel










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CA Emmissions Fail Help

 

I have a 85 Vanagon with a 92 EJ22 manual transmission engine that has just failed emmissions in CA. The engine has around 200k on it. The readings are as follows.

15mph 1786rpm CO2 13.9 O2 .9 HC 66 CO .72 NO 1348
25mph 1639rpm CO2 13.9 O2 .9 HC 72 CO .69 NO 1432

It failed on the NO as the allowable was 1085 and 1120.

The ck eng. light is lit. I am getting code 24 with the black connectors connected. I did just clean the idle air valve as I had a poor idle and occasional stalling after comming off of load. Runs fine now. O2 sensor, plugs, and CAT were replaced after a problem that melted the orignal CAT and blew out the muffler a few months ago. Turned out to be a loose sensor wire that has been corrected. No running problems now.

Any ideas, bad CAT????

Thanks,
Brian
San Diego, CA


Cracked in 2 - Kennedy Header

 

Coming home today and bam out goes the header, mild steel, powder coated

7 years old but maybe 30K

passenger side, at the joint just out from the head where the dual ports merge into one pipe, completely apart, not a hairline crack but a full blown "in two pieces"

Recommendations on suitable replacement?

think I will have someone better than me weld it back up but once broken I am not sure I will trust it.

peter


Re: Selling my old 2.1

 

Where are you located? I am looking for a
2.1

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----- Reply message -----
From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@...>
To: <subaruvanagon@...>
Cc: "rthypno" <rthypno@...>
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Selling my old 2.1
Date: Sat, Mar 31, 2012 10:44 am
You can always put on www.thesamba.com



all VW parts and vehicles.

Craigslist often works too.



scott

www.turbovans.com

southern Oregon, USA



On 3/31/2012 7:32 AM, rthypno wrote:

Has anyone had any luck selling their old VW 2.1 L and how?


Re: Selling my old 2.1

 

It has been two years+, but I sold mine on Craigslist
in about 2 days to a fellow in LA whose 2.1 had blown
up on the freeway. His mechanic called and asked questions
and we did the deal. I think I got $800. My mechanic
shrink-wrapped it onto a pallet and the truck line wanted
something like $60. It was in LA in 2 days and in his
van in another two....

Richard
Boulder


Re: Selling my old 2.1

Scott Daniel - Turbovans
 

You can always put on www.thesamba.com

all VW parts and vehicles.
Craigslist often works too.

scott
www.turbovans.com
southern Oregon, USA

On 3/31/2012 7:32 AM, rthypno wrote:

Has anyone had any luck selling their old VW 2.1 L and how?


Re: Selling my old 2.1

 

I have a guy in Georgia that will buy them. I have sold 4 to him so far. He doesn't pay much for them. But it gets them off the pallet rack or garage. 250 to 400 depending on condition. Can just put it on pallet and he has shipper pick them up. If interested contact me

-Rob



On Mar 31, 2012, at 7:32 AM, "rthypno" <rthypno@...> wrote:

Has anyone had any luck selling their old VW 2.1 L and how?


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Re: Selling my old 2.1

 

Put it on Vanagon.com, Samba, Craigs list. It'll go pretty quickly �
shipping can be a pain.
bob
On Mar 31, 2012, at 8:32 AM, rthypno wrote:

Has anyone had any luck selling their old VW 2.1 L and how?



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Re: where should i buy my used engine in the Denver Area

 

I just got a 97 2.2 from imports auto on 29 th and larimer for a great price, they pulled the engine and harness for me. They have been great to work with, I cant say enough about how easy this has been. Great guys.

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "bearleythere@..." <bearleythere@...> wrote:

Terry, there is a place up there also you can call is RetroRoo. He is really familiar with the vanagon conversions. He used to have a westy.

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "Terry" <gannont15@> wrote:

Hey there,

i'm starting to price out a ej25 for my Syncro Westy. I live in the denver area and found a guy (salvage yard i think) on CL selling one w 112K miles for 1400$. price includes the ECU.

any thoughts suggesiton on the that price? recommendations? i have a motor that threw a rod so i'm debating on finding a long block and swappin it all out. there are rebuilds in the area for 1800$ but i am fairly new to these conversions so i thought i throw it out there for suggestions.

thanks


Re: Selling my old 2.1

no name
 

I have a vw core I would like(no accessories) to sell, it was a running engine when removed for a rebuilt. It has been in my way ever since. best offer fbo my home in Port Townsend Wa. Will consider meeting winthin a hour or so of my home

--- On Sat, 3/31/12, Brent Weide <brent.weide@...> wrote:

From: Brent Weide <brent.weide@...>
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Selling my old 2.1
To: subaruvanagon@...
Date: Saturday, March 31, 2012, 8:19 AM


























craigslist, ebay, thesamba.com, local newspaper ad.



If the harness was not hacked on removal, and depending on condition,

old 1.9's and 2.1's can bring somewhere around 500-1000. Of course it

all depends on how badly you want to get rid of it and how badly your

buyer wants it.

i make a habit of hanging on to the old engine until i'm done with the

conversion project just to ensure that i've not forgotten to borrow

any fittings or connections that might help me with the conversion.



all the best,

brent



--

Brent Weide

Portland, Oregon

www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/

























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Re: Selling my old 2.1

 

I just sold mine two days ago. I kept it in the van so people could hear it run/drive. It is in very good condition with many new parts, including a new thrtottle body and under 100k. I put it on CL and got 700.

--- In subaruvanagon@..., "rthypno" <rthypno@...> wrote:

Has anyone had any luck selling their old VW 2.1 L and how?


Re: Selling my old 2.1

 

craigslist, ebay, thesamba.com, local newspaper ad.

If the harness was not hacked on removal, and depending on condition,
old 1.9's and 2.1's can bring somewhere around 500-1000. Of course it
all depends on how badly you want to get rid of it and how badly your
buyer wants it.
i make a habit of hanging on to the old engine until i'm done with the
conversion project just to ensure that i've not forgotten to borrow
any fittings or connections that might help me with the conversion.

all the best,
brent


--
Brent Weide
Portland, Oregon
www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/


Selling my old 2.1

 

Has anyone had any luck selling their old VW 2.1 L and how?


Re: Crank Pulley Torque

Scott Daniel - Turbovans
 

That's a great suggestion on marking it ..so you can see at a glance if
it's moved.

I use 'a little' lock-tite on them.
I have taken apart thousands of things I lock-tited..
I've never found it to be that permanent at all really.

and it is underdesigned some on the subaru.
the pulley only goes down over the crank a short way. like a quarter
inch or so ..
not that good.
On the waterboxer engine it's about and inch and an eighth or so ..it
really is down over the end of the crank,
not stuck on the end of it .

On 3/30/2012 7:44 PM, realflighter2 wrote:

The ONLY problem I have had with my Subaru installation is this bolt
coming loose. When it does, the pulley does a number on the woodruff
key and slot in the tip of the crankshaft that aligns the pulley and
timing sprocket, and the timing sprocket (which normally justs slips
on) is nearly impossible to remove. So lesson learned. Torque the piss
out of it (...or factory recommended setting, whichever comes first),
a dab of locktite (obviously not the permanent type) and then I index
marked the bolt and pulley with a yellow paint pencil line (like they
use to mark parts at the junk yard). You can see the pulley and bolt
from the rear license plate door, and every so often I will look in to
make sure the bolt has not loosened.

Gary Trovinger
1987 Syncro Westfalia SP (subaru powered)

--- In subaruvanagon@...
<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>, "Matt" <mattsewalson@...> wrote:

Thanks,
I planned on using the higher torque value. Just did the timing belt
on my wife's 04 Impreza and the torque value was 130 ft lbs. in the
Haynes manual. I also remember reading a discussion on the torque
values and how it is listed to low in manuals. Is the lock tight,
medium strength, not needed? I figure it wouldn't hurt since I don't
plan on taking the crank pulley off for a while and definitely don't
want it coming off during operation.

Thanks for all the info,
Matt

--- In subaruvanagon@...
<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>, "Tom Shiels" <tom@> wrote:

Matt,
The earlier Subaru specification for the torque (69 to 76 ft
lbs)was far too low - the later manuals call for 120 ft lbs. I always
use 120 ft lbs and never use lock tight at that torque.

The lower torque value often resulted in loose crank pulley and
damage to the crank shaft. Be sure to use the higher torque as Leon
suggested.

Tom
Burlington ON


--- In subaruvanagon@...
<mailto:subaruvanagon%40yahoogroups.com>, "Matt" <mattsewalson@> wrote:

Then my plan is to get a new crank pulley bolt and maybe a
little lock tight.