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Re: Porsche Tranny use in Vanagons

 

Try Marty Schneider of MSDS
<MDM810@...> or
<info@...>
www.msdsinc.com

He makes a complete "Range Panzer" kit to convert a T25 Syncro to 911
engine & G50 trans; will fit nonSyncro. He doesn't like selling a trans kit
separately, just a full engine/trans kit, but did say he'd sell me a
trans-only setup.

If enoughSubaruvanagoneers bothered him he might begin to sell "half" kits
willingly (the Half Marty?).

KEP makes adaptor kits for Subaru to 915 and G50 (flywheel, adaptor plate).
You need to provide the clutch, starter etc.

As far as fitting trans to van, npbody makes a kit for a 915 trans, which
is far weaker than the Getrag G50 anyway, and a little prone to syncro and
bearing wear; its clutch mechanism needs adapting to hydraulic. The G50
also has a normal 5-speed gate and good shift-action, unlike the
Vanagon-style gate & action of the 915. The old 901 trans is far too weak
to consider.

To fit a Porsche trans you will need the complete gearshift mechanism from
the car the trans came from (or an identical car). The VW shifter won't
work.

The 915 trans will fit your 100mm VW CVs, and stock T25 axle length may be
correct. The G50 takes 108mm CVs; normally Porsche 930 CVs are used, but
are extremaly expensive new or used (PartsHeaven in San Francisco says
$124US new complete, $175 per pair on axle used). Beware, the US places do
not offer a complete CV at the advertised prices; $50-odd covers only the
inner parts ie balls and cage, NOT the boot or base/flange.

I am trying to find out whether the Type 44 Audi 100 (=5000 in USA) 108mm
CVs will fit the 930 axles ie is the spline the same, length ditto. I'm
waiting for a fax from a wrecker who was going to measure up a T44 CV for
me.

Sway-a-Way adaptor axles are needed, also Weddle 108mm stubaxles (outer
flanges) .

In USA a good used G50 generally costs $1800. In Germany I am buying one
for DM2700 (about $1291US) including release mechanism and slave cylinder.
Starter DM280, complete used clutch & ringgear DM1100, shifter complete
from shifter knob to trans DM450, FAR cheaper than US prices. No 930 CVs
available. Even with shipping the total cost saving over USA is big enough.
The difference is over $2000NZ (@$0.42US); shipping about the same either
way.

Compare to US prices:
trans 1800
clutch new 695
ringgear 60
release mechanism 150
slave cylinder new 57
starter 125
shift lever, coupler, linkage 550

Warren Chapman, vanagon.com member, has an Audi V6/G50 in his; Jurgen
Gembler (runs www.bulli-forum, Germany) has a VR6/G50.

Hope this helps.

Maybe my SVX/G50 T25 will be on the road this half of the century...



Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin, New Zealand
VW & mollusc nut
1984 VW Type 25 Caravelle (currently SVX engine; waiting for a Porsche trans)
1985 Mitsubishi Galant Sigma 2.0 (FWD), for sale
1986 CE80 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel (extaxi)
1989 CE96 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel wagon
1989 CT170 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel (taxi)


Re: Oil pan installed.

 

Ron, you dog you! I guess you know we're all green with envy!! My spare
pan has been patiently sitting in a corner of my garage for several
months, just waiting for KEP to say the word. This makes it MUCH harder
to be patient! I think it'll work in my plane, too!
Larry

Do you really need more than 20,000 feet of ground clearance!


Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin, New Zealand
VW & mollusc nut
1984 VW Type 25 Caravelle (currently SVX engine; waiting for a Porsche trans)
1985 Mitsubishi Galant Sigma 2.0 (FWD), for sale
1986 CE80 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel (extaxi)
1989 CE96 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel wagon
1989 CT170 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel (taxi)


Oil Pan, Big Tires

 

I would be happy to shorten oil pans and pickup tubes for any one
that is interested. I recently finished one for a customer of mine
that I cut just below where the dipstick goes in so that I did'nt
have to mess with the dipstick position. reshaped the bottom
slightly,welded together with 110v mig then brazed over the weld to
fill any possible pinholes. no leaks, holds 3 quarts. I lenghtened
the syncro skid plate and bolted it to the original engine hanger
which was moved to just behind subie engine and also incorpoates a
heat shield for the cat/muffler. Also installed the 235/15 tires and
after cutting off a very small portion of the rear lower front wheel
well trim have had no problems. van is an '87 syncro westy. This is a
great list! I wish it had existed before I did my first subie swap.
Seth Hatfield, H&R Motors, Santa Barbara, Ca (805) 956-6757.


Re: Oil pan installed.

Larry Hamm
 

andrew.grebneff@... wrote:

I think it'll work in my plane, too!
Larry
Do you really need more than 20,000 feet of ground clearance!
Andrew,
No, I guess that should be plenty! However, the cowling is quite tight,
and I can use all the space I can get inside there.
Larry


Unmodified KEP Muffler System on my Syncro

Warren Chapman
 

As most of you know, I have just finished my conversion and ....as I
have stated, I am mostly very happy.... except for how LOW the header
and muffler hang down.

Now with KEP's shortened oil pan soon to arrive, this will be my next
project on the way to getting my skid plate re-installed.

I have posted a photo in the "Files" section which shows my converted
van next to my other (stock) Syncro. Here's the link.



The next photo shows what's going on. The engine in the Syncro sits
2 inches lower in the chassis than on a 2wd van. KEP's header was
designed for 2wd vans. Therefore, the WHOLE HEADER AND MUFFLER
SYSTEM hangs down 2" lower on Syncro. Not the direction we want to
go.

This photo shows how there's 2" of clearance left between the
muffler and the VW heat shield which would allow the muffler to be
raised up to create more clearance.

http:/www.egroups.com/files/subaruvanagon/Syncro_Muffler_clearance.jpg

Compare the first photo with one taken from Ron Bernstein's site of
his 2wd van with KEP cat and muffler installed.



Spoke with Hobert this AM about this problem and he's just beginning
to work on a solution. Go Hobert!!

In the meantime, I'm looking for a (more)immediate solution. Anyone
else tackling this problem, let me know. I'm starting to discuss a
fix with some muffler shops and custom header fabricators.

Warren C.


Re: Please read...I'm concerned.

Warren Chapman
 

I received this virus twice in the last 24 hours. Thank God I just
installed Norton Antivirus about a week ago, which alerted me to the
danger. Norton AV could not fix it but "Quaranteened" the file. The
next time it arrived I deleted the email immediately.

Thanks to Norton AV or I would have opened this file to who knows
what distruction.

Warren C.

--- In subaruvanagon@..., David Beierl <DBEIERL@I...> wrote:
Folks, some of you (you know who you are) are getting this just to
know
what I'm up to. For the rest...

For those lists where this is grossly off-topic, I humbly
apologize. In
fact it's grossly off-topic on all these lists, but some of them
are having
a good bit of trouble with this, and I hope the others will be able
to
avoid it.

I'm talking about a recent virus/worm/Trojan program known
technically as
W95.hybris.gen, also as Snowhite [sic]. It tends to arrive in an
email
addressed from [saving your reverence] <hahaha@s...>. *This
Address
Is A Fake.*

I have become rather concerned about this one over the last several
weeks;
I'm right now engaged in trying to help several people around the
country
recover from it; I've received at least a dozen copies during this
time.

It has been around since 25 September, and it has an astonishing
technical
ability to adapt itself which in my humble opinion makes it
exceedingly
dangerous, even though it has not created *much* actual damage to
date. I
say much -- I know of at least two instances where people's systems
have
been quickly rendered unusable, and more where the infection has
been
difficult to eradicate. It is technically by far the most advanced
such
program yet written, and its comparatively benign behavior until
now is no
indicator of its potential. It also appears to have advanced
methods of
discovering addresses to send itself to, and may make a concerted
effort to
prevent itself being removed from an infected system.

A dedicated computer professional has purchased the domain name
(sexyfun.net) where the email allegedly originates from, and has
set up a
website there at in order to help people
recover
from this virus, and to avoid infection, and, he hopes, to
eradicate it
from the planet. He (she?) is of the opinion (which I share) that
it is
important for us all to cooperate if we don't want this to be
around for a
very long time. Happy99 lasted a year, and technically it was a
firecracker to W95.hybris.gen's ICBM. I won't waste any more time
describing W95.hybris.gen because the website has or has links to
pretty
much everything that is known about the beast.

I urge you to visit the site, plan on spending an hour or more
learning
about it, protect yourselves sensibly, and assist others in any way
possible. As our beloved Coast Guard puts it "Mariners are
requested to
maintain a sharp lookout, render assistance as needed, and report
all
sightings to the nearest Coast Guard unit."

I will do whatever I can to help anyone understand and use the
information
available at www.sexyfun.net/ (which continues to be updated as
more
information becomes available about the program).

Thanks for your attention, and please think about this carefully.
Best Regards,
David Beierl
401 274-5827 East Coast -- 8am to midnight ok.

David Beierl - dbeierl@a...


Re: Oil pan installed.

 

Hey Ron,

Why do you have to add a quart of oil to your engine every 100
miles. Is it caused by the new oil pan?

Thanks,

Sudeep


Still Overheating

 

Hello,

I took a break fom working on my conversion for the last few weeks.
So far all the wiring look s fine and I think I am getting the
correct error codes but I still have not tried to take it in to to
pass smog. Even though the engine is purring like a kitten, I am
still overheating.

I am pretty sure I am not getting any coolant to flow to the engine.
I have looked back at previous emails and pressurized the engine per
the instructions given to previous emailers. I even went as far as to
have my VW mechanic come over to make sure i was doing it properly.
But still know coolant flow to the engine.

Any suggestions? If I do not put in a resistor in will the gauge
continue to climb?

If there quite a few bends in my copper tubing will this inhibit
coolant frm flowing to the engine. This is what my mechanic thinks
but my set up looks similar to Ron's.

Thanks for the input. If this gets fized then it's off to the smog
station.

Sudeep


Please read...I'm concerned.

David Beierl
 

Folks, some of you (you know who you are) are getting this just to know what I'm up to. For the rest...

For those lists where this is grossly off-topic, I humbly apologize. In fact it's grossly off-topic on all these lists, but some of them are having a good bit of trouble with this, and I hope the others will be able to avoid it.

I'm talking about a recent virus/worm/Trojan program known technically as W95.hybris.gen, also as Snowhite [sic]. It tends to arrive in an email addressed from [saving your reverence] <hahaha@...>. *This Address Is A Fake.*

I have become rather concerned about this one over the last several weeks; I'm right now engaged in trying to help several people around the country recover from it; I've received at least a dozen copies during this time.

It has been around since 25 September, and it has an astonishing technical ability to adapt itself which in my humble opinion makes it exceedingly dangerous, even though it has not created *much* actual damage to date. I say much -- I know of at least two instances where people's systems have been quickly rendered unusable, and more where the infection has been difficult to eradicate. It is technically by far the most advanced such program yet written, and its comparatively benign behavior until now is no indicator of its potential. It also appears to have advanced methods of discovering addresses to send itself to, and may make a concerted effort to prevent itself being removed from an infected system.

A dedicated computer professional has purchased the domain name (sexyfun.net) where the email allegedly originates from, and has set up a website there at in order to help people recover from this virus, and to avoid infection, and, he hopes, to eradicate it from the planet. He (she?) is of the opinion (which I share) that it is important for us all to cooperate if we don't want this to be around for a very long time. Happy99 lasted a year, and technically it was a firecracker to W95.hybris.gen's ICBM. I won't waste any more time describing W95.hybris.gen because the website has or has links to pretty much everything that is known about the beast.

I urge you to visit the site, plan on spending an hour or more learning about it, protect yourselves sensibly, and assist others in any way possible. As our beloved Coast Guard puts it "Mariners are requested to maintain a sharp lookout, render assistance as needed, and report all sightings to the nearest Coast Guard unit."

I will do whatever I can to help anyone understand and use the information available at www.sexyfun.net/ (which continues to be updated as more information becomes available about the program).

Thanks for your attention, and please think about this carefully.
Best Regards,
David Beierl
401 274-5827 East Coast -- 8am to midnight ok.

David Beierl - dbeierl@...


Porsche Tranny use in Vanagons

Nelson Stoll
 

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Hi Everyone,
?
Been following all the email and dreaming on my rebuild.? I really would like to mate a six cylinder Subaru to a Porsche tranny when the time comes.? The tranny could easily handle the power and having the ratio choices and a limited slip would make for a great way to get the power to the road.
.
??? Does anyone know the contact info for a shop that does the Porsche tranny conversions?? And has the mounts, clutch and linkage properly figured out?
?
??? Nelson Stoll, SF Bay Area, '90 Vanagon still strong at 140k.


Re: Sources For Legacy Transmission?

Nelson Stoll
 

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Jim,
?
I noticed your suggestion about using one of the Japanese engine importers for the needed tranny.? Can you post the contact info for a few of them you feel are reputable?? Do you also know importers for German parts?? I'm looking into contacts for Porsche trannies as I look into the possibility of mating one to a six cylinder Subaru motor for my Vanagon.
?
Nelson, SF Bay Area, ?'90 Vanagon still running strong at 140K.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Barker [mailto:jbarker@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:13 PM
To: subaruvanagon@...
Subject: RE: [subaruvanagon] Sources For Legacy Transmission?

Would you be willing to accept a low mileage used tranny from Japan?? There
are a lot of importers in CA that sell engine and trans for about $500.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: sohowesty@... [mailto:sohowesty@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 3:14 PM
To: subaruvanagon@...
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Sources For Legacy Transmission?


I have been following the list for a while, I currently have 1.9TD
Westy. My daily ride, a 95 Legacy,is having some transmission
problems.? In your searches for a Legacy engines, does anyone know of
good source for 95 Legacy 5-speeds? A source in the Midwest would be a
big help!

Thanks in advance for your help!

Regards,

Greg


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Re: Sources For Legacy Transmission?

James Barker
 

Would you be willing to accept a low mileage used tranny from Japan? There
are a lot of importers in CA that sell engine and trans for about $500.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: sohowesty@... [mailto:sohowesty@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 3:14 PM
To: subaruvanagon@...
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Sources For Legacy Transmission?


I have been following the list for a while, I currently have 1.9TD
Westy. My daily ride, a 95 Legacy,is having some transmission
problems. In your searches for a Legacy engines, does anyone know of
good source for 95 Legacy 5-speeds? A source in the Midwest would be a
big help!

Thanks in advance for your help!

Regards,

Greg


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Progress Report - Thanks

david wilhite
 

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I did get to put the heater hose bypass in today.? Bleeding the rear heater was a breeze once I used the bleeder valve (thank you John S., I'd forgotten it was there).? In order to get most of the air out of the front heater core, I loosened the hose clamp and squeezed it a bit until I had too much coming out to catch with a rag (thanks for the idea, John C.).? I know there is probably air in the lines still, but I am able to drive without the engine getting hot.? I had installed a 22 ohm resistor from Radio Shack ($.49 for a pack) for the thermostat and the needle sits just a smidge to the right of dead center.? I think it is pretty accurate because once I started to overheat the other day (water boiling on head), the needle went up to 3/4 and the led started flashing.? I'll double check the temperatures with an infrared thermometer.
?
Anyway, I did drive to work and back today and didn't seem to have any problems.? By the grace of God it looks as though I am going to make it.? Thanks to all on this egroup.
?
David Wilhite
2001 KLR650
Subaruvanagon in progress
?


Sources For Legacy Transmission?

 

I have been following the list for a while, I currently have 1.9TD
Westy. My daily ride, a 95 Legacy,is having some transmission
problems. In your searches for a Legacy engines, does anyone know of
good source for 95 Legacy 5-speeds? A source in the Midwest would be a
big help!

Thanks in advance for your help!

Regards,

Greg


Re: Progress Report - Two laps

Larry Hamm
 

david wilhite wrote:

The van has now moved on it's own (Subaru) power. The first time it
has moved since August. The neighbors actually came out and cheered.
David,
Congrats on the drive, and welcome to the SV family! Glad to hear you
were able to get it up and running. Do your cheeks still hurt from
grinning?
Larry


Re: Oil pan installed.

Larry Hamm
 

Ron Bloomquist wrote:

Hi Susan, Hobert, David, Jim and the rest of the gang,

I finally got around to installing the KEP oil pan last Saturday. It
mounted up just fine.
Ron, you dog you! I guess you know we're all green with envy!! My spare
pan has been patiently sitting in a corner of my garage for several
months, just waiting for KEP to say the word. This makes it MUCH harder
to be patient! I think it'll work in my plane, too!
Larry


Re: Progress Report - Two laps

david wilhite
 

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I have the Subaru header pipes and catalytic convertor on it.? The cat is actually hanging out past the bumper about a foot.? I know I may be exaggerating somewhat, but the subie engine is so smooth and quiet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 1/16/01 12:34:24 PM
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Progress Report - Two laps

You have no muffler installed and the engine is quiet???What am I
missing here?
?
> david wilhite wrote:
> >
> p.s. Can't believe how quiet the engine is even though I have no
> exhaust on it yet (only the Legacy header pipes).
>
>
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2001 KLR650
Subaruvanagon in progress
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Re: Progress Report - Two laps

Ed McKinley
 

You have no muffler installed and the engine is quiet? What am I
missing here?

david wilhite wrote:
p.s. Can't believe how quiet the engine is even though I have no
exhaust on it yet (only the Legacy header pipes).


Re: Progress Report - Two laps

 

David,

I had a lot of troubles bleeding my '83 westy w/ 90 subie engine.
Everything got better once I installed the bypass. On mine I have a
small plastic bleed screw on the top of the rear heater. The front
heater seemed to bleed OK once I had the bypass in.







--- In subaruvanagon@..., "david wilhite" <dnmwilhite@e...>
wrote:

The van has now moved on it's own (Subaru) power. The first time
it
has moved since August. The neighbors actually came out and
cheered.
I wonder if they are happy for me or if they are happy
the 'Beautiful VW' is off
the jack stands in the driveway? I took a couple of laps around
the
neighborhood and parked it, because it was beginning to get hot.



I am assuming that I have air pockets in the heaters. I was
getting no heat from the heaters and the radiator was cool to the
touch.
On Saturday, I was getting a little heat out of the front heater;
none out of
the back heater and the radiator got nice and warm. The
temperature
never did get hot (no boiled water on heads) while I let it idle.
I
also have not placed a bypass in the heater lines yet because the
valve for the
front heater is gone and water always flows through. That was the
previous
owners way of trying to stop the VW engine from overheating. Looks
like I'll to have to do that now in order to get the thermostat to
open because
of the air.



Hopefully, tomorrow I will be able to install a bypass and go
through
the bleeding procedure again. It looks as though getting the air
out of
the heaters is going to be a pain. If anybody has a good method on
this,
please let me know.



p.s. Can't believe how quiet the engine is even though I have no
exhaust on
it yet (only the Legacy header pipes).



David Wilhite

dnmwilhite@e...

2001 KLR650

Subaruvanagon in progress


Re: Newbie

 

Anyway, I saw the recent (and past) posts about a putting Subie in air
cooled van and was curious if you H20 owners were in our place, would you
look into an air cooled replacement, such as a Porsche 6 or Corvair 6,
rather than install all the plumbing? Also, I saw an australian website
that mentions mounting the radiator in the engine compartment and using
an air snorkle from the side vent - any comments.

911 conversions are quite "common" in the States, and apparently work well.
911 engines are reliable. But the bigger ones (over 2.7 liters) will unduly
stress your trans. Fit a Porsche 915 or G50 trans.

Corvair? Why bother?

I know someone who has had pushrod Subaru 1.8s in Bays, running a radiator
on each side of the engine compartment, set-up in series, and reports good
results. It's gut having der radiator out of sight. I sold him a
decamperized engineless 75 Bay, once fitted with a Toyota V8, which he's
recamperizing, derusting and fitting a turbo 1.8 Subie pushrod to, with
this radiator setup.

Or else bite the bullet and convert to stock watercooled Vanagon plumbing.
But take advantage of the opportunity to avoid including air traps. In your
place this is what I'd do, and use a Subaru engine, preferably a 3.3 six,
as I'm doing.

Staying aircooled means no decent heater, and dusty air from what attempts
to pass as one.


Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin, New Zealand
VW & mollusc nut
1984 VW Caravelle (currently SVX engine; waiting for a Porsche trans)
1985 Mitsubishi Galant Sigma 2.0 (FWD), for sale
1986 CE80 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel (extaxi)
1989 CE96 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel wagon
1989 CT170 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel (taxi)