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Re: Final Drive Ratios
Steve Coseo
Great post. thanks.
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Any pics of these wheels? I am currently modifyng some 15 inch Audi Ronal alloys with the 45 mm offset. Got them at a yard here in Seattle. Painted them silver with a clear coat after I reamed out the center hub a bit to get it to clear all 4 wheels on my syncro. Then I reamed out the inside wheel hub so they would clear the front flange on the syncro disk hub. To get them to fit a non syncro van Ill have to ream out the center hubs to a full 2.5 inches. Sooooooo, does anyone know of a good machine shop in the Seattle area that could do that? Brian (smallcar.com) -steve seattle, wa ps. I love my SA 15 inch wheels on my sooby van. great handling, and my direct connection to the highway expansion seems went away.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Darrell Boehler" Reply-To: subaruvanagon@... To: Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: Final Drive Ratios Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:31:46 -0600 Hi All, My son Tom has after market mb allow wheels similar to what Nelson described a couple days ago. 5x112 bolt pattern, 7 inch rims with a 25 mm or 1 inch off set. They fit his 86 2wd westy about as well as any that could be engineered for it. He has m&s 215 75 15 LT tires and they turn 761 revolutions per mile, some 185 r 14 c tires on my double cab were 814, his old front tires LT 195 75 r 14 turned 834and rear 225 70 14 were 795. The 2.2L now turns 3700 rpm at a gps 70 mph . He has been touring the northwest the past couple of weeks and likes this set up. His words are more like it handles great, he also has a rear anti- sway bar. I invested quite a lot of time with him on his wheels and tires and feel his set up with 25 mm offset is as good as you can get using the same wheels all around with no spacers. It is dead center between the outside wheel well and ball joint in front and has 1 inch of clearance at the trailing arms and shocks in rear, enough so tire cables / chains will be fine if they are tightened properly. We looked at installing a taller 4th gear, Weddle has about 3 options to choose from around $200. Larger wheels makes all gears taller and we liked that. Tom's 2.2L has never had dying at a stop sign syndrome. Just the 33 (vss) error code. We added a hall vss in place of the o2 counter and all is happy with the ecu. The check engine light stays off. However if we hook up read out jumper it will have 51 and 52 (neutral and parking brake) errors logged. Darrell ----- Original Message -----
From: dewymer@... To: subaruvanagon@... Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: Final Drive Ratios Nelson, My 87 with close ratio 5 speed turns 4000 RPM @ 70 mph as well. There is a gear ratio chart somewhere within "Tom's Vanagon Website" (not sure) in the engine conversion section. Dale 87 wolf California Nelson Stoll wrote: Dear Converts, Were there really two different final drives made by the factory for the Vanagon? What is the ratio of the US '90/'91 Vanagon? If there was adaquate power available, I sure would like to see the engine turning around 3600 or 3700, instead of the 4000 it now turns at 70 MPH. Nelson StollSF Bay Area'90 Vanagon To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: subaruvanagon-unsubscribe@... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at |
Re: Final Drive Ratios
Darrell Boehler
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi All,
??? My son Tom has after market mb
allow wheels similar to what?Nelson described a couple days ago. 5x112 bolt
pattern, 7 inch rims with a 25 mm or 1 inch off set. They fit his 86?2wd
westy about as well as any that could be engineered for it.?? He has
m&s ?215 75 15 LT? tires and they turn 761 revolutions per mile,
some 185 r 14 c??tires on my double cab?were?814, his old
front?tires LT? 195 75 r 14 turned 834and rear 225 70 14 were 795.
? The 2.2L now turns 3700 rpm at a gps 70 mph . ?He has been touring
the northwest?the?past couple of weeks and likes this set up. His
words are more like it?handles great, he?also has?a?rear
anti- sway bar. ?????
??? I invested quite a lot of time
with him on his wheels and tires and feel his set up with 25 mm offset
?is?as good as you can get using the same wheels all around with no
spacers.? It is dead center between the?outside wheel well and ball
joint in front and?has? 1 inch of clearance at the trailing?arms
and shocks in rear,? enough so tire cables / chains will be fine if they
are tightened properly.
??? We looked at installing a taller
4th? gear, ?Weddle has about 3 options to choose from around $200.
?? Larger?wheels makes all?gears?taller and we liked
that. ????????????
??? Tom's??2.2L?has
never had dying at a stop sign syndrome. Just the 33 (vss) error
??code. We added a hall vss in place of the o2 counter and all is
happy with the ecu. The?check engine light stays off. ? However if we
hook up read out jumper it will have 51 and 52? (neutral and parking brake)
errors logged.?
????
Darrell
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Re: WRX coming to US
I went to the LA Auto Show today and found a couple of interesting Still, the Japanese market gets 290hp versions, which are sold nowhere else. Though you won't hear about them, I was sent a factory power/torque graph of theold-model Type RA engine, which I came within cooee of ordering (turned it down when an SVX turned up). Andrew Grebneff Dunedin, New Zealand VW & mollusc nut 1984 VW Caravelle (currently SVX engine; waiting for a Porsche trans) 1985 Mitsubishi Galant Sigma 2.0 (FWD), for sale 1986 CE80 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel (extaxi) 1989 CE96 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel wagon 1989 CT170 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel (taxi) |
WRX coming to US
I went to the LA Auto Show today and found a couple of interesting
tidbits I thought I'd share with the group. A Subaru rep informed me that the Impreza WRX will be on display next week at the show and should be on sale in the Spring. Engine specs are rather impressive - 2.0 liter DOHC, turbo producing a whopping 227 hp at 6,000 rpm and 217 lb/ft of torque at 4,000 rpm. When our 2.2's wear out in a few years, this would be a nice alternative, eh?? I checked the new VW Eurovan out and was surprised at what I found. Last year, the power output of the 2.8 liter VR6 was around 140 hp. This year, they FINALLY got it right as power has jumped to 201 hp, thats right 201. I had to read it about four or five times to be sure. Anyway I thought I'd relay this info to you all. I just had to take a break from wiring hell to see the new cars for this year. Mark Dobkin 89 Vanagon GL (with Legacy engine sitting next to it) |
Re: Subaru Power Output Graphs
US models... coz the poor fools missed out on the WRX and it's derivitives
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From: <andrew.grebneff@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:13 AM Subject: RE: [subaruvanagon] Subaru Power Output Graphs Leon,Since when did the Impreza come with a 2.5liter EJ25? This was supposedly only fitted to Legacy and Forester (though the ugly pseudooffroader Forester uses the Impreza floorpan). Andrew Grebneff Dunedin, New Zealand VW & mollusc nut 1984 VW Caravelle (currently SVX engine; waiting for a Porsche trans) 1985 Mitsubishi Galant Sigma 2.0 (FWD), for sale 1986 CE80 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel (extaxi) 1989 CE96 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX diesel wagon 1989 CT170 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel (taxi) To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: subaruvanagon-unsubscribe@... |
Re: Final Drive Ratios
Nelson,
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My 87 with close ratio 5 speed turns 4000 RPM @ 70 mph as well.? There is a gear ratio chart somewhere within "Tom's Vanagon Website" (not sure) in the engine conversion section. Dale 87 wolf California Nelson Stoll wrote: ??? |
Re: Subaru Power Output Graphs
Leon Korkin
Correction to my post,
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2.5l is dohc, my mistake Leon 85 Subwagen Westy Nelson Stoll wrote: Hi Leon, |
Re: Subaru Power Output Graphs
Leon Korkin
Hello Nelson,
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96 engines had diffrent(wrong) cams, less power and required premium fuel, not a good choice.Current 2.5l engines are all sohc, dohc were not in USA. I don't have access to any more info like curves etc. I don't have any Subi manuals either and Mitchel diagrams would be very helpful. Leon 85 Subwagen Westy in Torrance Nelson Stoll wrote: Hi Leon, |
Re: persistent backfire popping at deceleration
Steve Coseo
Perfect. thanks Leon. Ill report the results to the list.
-steve ----Original Message Follows---- From: Leon Korkin <korkwood@...> Reply-To: subaruvanagon@... To: subaruvanagon@... Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] persistent backfire popping at deceleration Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 23:49:16 -0800 It is widely available at most muffler shops and their website is very good.They have distributor shop search in all areas based on zip code.As far as i remember in one shop they were selling 17724 for ab. $75 but you can call around for best deal Good luck Leon 85 Subwagen Westy Steve Coseo wrote: Thanks very much.Handles > awesome.deceleration > >Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 21:02:00 -0800you > >getting any error codes?There should be 3 codes after conversion notThe > >standardseveral > >performance mufflers that will fit there and help to get Suby breathhad > > > a popping backfire when decelerating. especially when coming to aon > > > it or had stretched/slipped, etc.effect. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: subaruvanagon-unsubscribe@... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at |
Re: persistent backfire popping at deceleration
John Fleming
Thanks,
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I will check those components as well as the O2 sensor based on your and other emails. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I'll report my results back. John ----- Original Message -----
From: "Leon Korkin" <korkwood@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: persistent backfire popping at deceleration
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Re: persistent backfire popping at deceleration
John Fleming
I might be able to do that Saturday Morning . . . not.
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Yea I considered it & may have to do that. Thanks John ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Dobkin" <mdobkin@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: persistent backfire popping at deceleration around the block just to see if the problem remains. If it does, then exhaustisn't the problem. |
Re: '95 2.2 wiring
John Fleming
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reductionstarter.? 18,000 miles after the installation and I'm still using
the original 85 starter with no problem.? I thought I'd just use that one
till it died & it hasn't!
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John
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Re: persistent backfire...valve problem?
John Fleming
Checked compression in the beginning & it's OK. The engine only had 20,000
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From: <andrew.grebneff@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:31 AM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Re: persistent backfire...valve problem? worn shims/cam lobes), burned valves/seats or exhaust leaks.doing so twice when throttling-off in FIFTH gear (thereby locking the backwheel, not fun).easy.
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Expansion tank elimination
david wilhite
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Right now with my conversion, I've got the expansion tank set close to original location, just set a little to the driver's side.? It ended up being a tight fit putting the KEP air intake in place.? It seems it will work just fine although it will be a little annoying getting the air filter out.? I left it close to original so it would be close to the highest point on the engine hoping it would catch more air bubbles.? I am sure I will go with this for awhile.? Ultimately, I would like to eliminate the expansion tank.? I have a few thoughts on this, and would welcome additional input.
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Since the radiator has plastic caps, brazing a new fitting for a standard radiator cap is out of the question.? This would have been ideal allowing the radiator to be filled at the front.? I have two ideas? I am exploring at this time.? One, is the idea of placing a threaded hose fitting in the place of the bleeder screw on the radiator.? From this I would run a short length of hose to a brass or aluminum (easy to machine) cylinder with another threaded hose fitting in the side of it.?? One end (the top), would have threads turned on it matching the VW expansion tank cap.? From the top end I would bore a void (kind of like a cup).? From the VW cap, I would run a length of hose into some sort of overflow tank sitting on the passenger side of the radiator.? The brass piece would act like a miniature expansion tank and could be located above the radiator at the highest point of the cooling system and should help on getting ai!
r out of the coolant system.??Putting?water in would be a?slow process, because the fitting is so small.? The second idea is to again use a threaded hose fitting in place of the bleeder screw and run a hose to an inline pressure relief valve and then to a reservoir.? This would be a little simpler and smaller, but would not allow you to fill the radiator.? I have not researched the availability of a pressure relief valve that would work in the proper pressure range, yet I am sure that with all of the valves used in Industry there is bound to be one out there.
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I still have a few questions I need to answer for myself, like where would I put a coolant level sensor and would I really need it?? I am sure there are other obstacles that I have not come across yet and I would welcome any input on this?
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David Wilhite
2001 KLR650
Subaruvanagon in progress
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Re: Syncro skid plate
Leon Korkin
Get all the parts they(KEP) are sure will fit the engine.The rest has to be
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designed and fabricated. Imho the big problem may be wiring so the manual will be needed. Leon 85 Subwagen Westy softcom wrote: Leon, greetings again. I have an 87 syncro. What should I order from |
Re: Subaru Power Output Graphs
Leon Korkin
I think it is the same adaptor kit as for 2.2l engine but check with KEP to
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be sure. I would use one from 97 on.If you have manual tranni use heavy duty clutch set. You will need new exhaust, wiring harness and there is no info on that as far as i know.Nevada may have less strict emission standards making it easyer to smog Vanagon with 2.5l engine.Of course this engine runs very clean but it is not yet approved for Vanagon. On the other hand few smog places know what Vanagon engine looks like and Suby looks very good there... It is worth it if price is right and you are ready to tackle some big obstacles Good luck and let me know your progress/problems Leon 85 Subwagen Westy softcom wrote: Leon, I was following the 2.5 conversation. Does Kennedy offer the parts |
Re: Speed sensor
Warren,
I have a speed sensor available for $120 that should work. I haven't tried it in my VX yet (very soon though) but it is a 3 wire, square wave, four pulse sender that will fit where the stock 02 box goes. I might be able to get the price down a bit if I order a quantity. Brian www.smallcar.com --- In subaruvanagon@..., "Warren Chapman" <tallsound@m...> wrote: and not for those who own Syncro's for their snow-going capability.you can get Leon to make you one quicker.design. lower than 2wd vans). Its fine for normal hwy driving but could be amaybe KEP will modify theirs. Right now though, KEP seems totally pre-the 2.2L. Feels like the van it should have been in the beginning (and |
Re: Subaru Power Output Graphs
Nelson Stoll
Hi Leon,
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Did the 2.5L 1996 Impressa engine have a different head than the current 2.5L. DOHC? Does anyone know the factory designations for these engines? How do we actually find out the technical details of these later engines, including curves? If I had access to complete wiring diagrams, I could probably figure it out between my knowledge and the engineers I use in my business and then draw a composite diagram for the '90,'91 Vanagon to '99 2.5L Subaru for the group. Griffin Motorwerke, the Berkeley, CA shop that has built Type 4 engines for me in the past has excellent resouces for exhaust systems and custom machining/construction. They should be able to coordinate the development of a solid exhaust that is mounted correctly, runs clean and allows the engine to breath freely. They are also an excellent source of info for turbos, etc. These have been mostly applied to Jetta and Audi engines. . Nelson Stoll, '90 Vanagon, SF Bay Area . . As far as i know the current 2.5l engine is the same as one from 97 Impreza GT with only diffrence that it is now again non-interference.The power and torque figures are the same.Those from 96 should be avoided due to cams and less power. As of now KEP is not ready to offer late model engine conversion and it would be totaly to us to work it out and it can be pretty hard depending how we can solve the trouble codes issue, new exhaust system, wiring etc etc etc.The main issue being electrical. And, after all, it has to be approved by CARB in our state.Lots of work! I totaly agree with you that it would be a great engine to use even though my 2.2 feels stronger than 130hp it is rated at. Leon 85 Subwagen Westy Nelson Stoll wrote: Is the 1997 Impreza 2.5L engine the same as the current 4 valve, SOHC |
'95 2.2 wiring
Patrick Bryson
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi all,
I've been lurking for the past few months while working out of state but
now I'm home and I have a huge pile of wires on my table in my garage as I start
my conversion.? My problem is that I'm using a '95 engine and all wiring is
different.? Hobert warned me about this but I decided I was smart enough to
conquer it.
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Thanks for your help,
Patrick |
Re: Syncro skid plate
Warren Chapman
I have just completed a conversion on a '90 Syncro Westy. In my
opinion there are three problems with the KEP kit for Syncro owners. These problems are probably only serious for the real off-roader types (we all want to think this is us, but not many really are) and not for those who own Syncro's for their snow-going capability. 1. Low Oil Pan -- soon solved by KEP's shortened pan. Or maybe you can get Leon to make you one quicker. 2. Loss of skid plate - hopefully soon solved by Leon's new design. 3. The whole exhaust system hangs lower than I would like (2" lower than 2wd vans). Its fine for normal hwy driving but could be a problem for serious off-roaders. The fix for this is a whole different exhaust header and muffler system for the Syncro. Or maybe KEP will modify theirs. Right now though, KEP seems totally pre- occupied with construction of a new building and has no time for further R&D. Power and torque and smoothness are wonderful, however, even with the 2.2L. Feels like the van it should have been in the beginning (and probably now IS with the 5 cyl in S. Africa). Mine does die some sometimes when lettine off the accelerator. Guess, my next project is to build a speed sensor. Warren Chapman |
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