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HELP! Need Subaru Tech: (Still have wrong harness.)
Warren Chapman
For prospective converters,
ONCE AGAIN, just can't stress enough the value of BEING SURE you can verify that all the required items are from the same vehicle: OTHERWISE KEEP LOOKING UNTIL YOU DO!! I bought my parts from a reputable and knowledgable salvage yard that stated they were very familiar with this conversion. Well... so far they've sent me two separate harnesses. The first one took me a few hours to figure out that it was wrong one. I found out later that not only was it the wrong one, but that only half of the harness was sent (there are two sections which connect together.) The second one came two weeks later, and I spent a whole week stripping and matching wires only to find out that the two main large (grey) plugs which connect to the harness on the engine do not match. Now what?? What else might not match?? Since the harness doesn't match the engine, is it possible that the computer might not either. To avoid future problems, should I start over from scratch with a whole new set (engine, harness, computer).... this time certain to come from the same vehicle. Can't proceed until I get some answers. Does anyone out there know: 1. Is there is any difference in computers from 90-94. 2. Do auto and manual shift cars have the same computer?? Is there a chance for a mismatch? 3. If neither 1. and 2. above matter, perhaps I can just get the correct plugs to match my engine and splice them in. Appreciate any feedback. Anyone know a good Subaru tech who could answer these questions. Warren C. |
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Subaru camshaft issue -- rust -- what do I do
John Mates
Hi!
I've been slowing doing a Subaru/Kennedy conversion to my Vanagon Syncro. I've run into a worrisome problem... I decided to replace the timing belt and the camshaft oil seals and the front and rear main seals before running my 1994 Legacy 2.2 engine in the Vanagon. I also obeyed the Subaru manual to check the hydraulic lift adjusters after replacing the timing belt, etc. So I did ... ALL the adjusters had air in them. Every last one of them (16). So I learned how to get the air out. But, in the process I noticed two unpleasant things about my right side camshaft. One of the lobes was "pitted" slightly, right at the peak (minimum radius of curvature). I decided that short of replacing the camshaft, there was nothing I could do about this. The second issue was that there was RUST on all of the cam surfaces. I used a brass brush and all of it came off pretty nicely, EXCEPT from one lobe. This lobe remains scratchy and bumpy to a fingernail rubbed across it... I reassembled everything, but now I wonder if I shouldn't open up the valve cover on the right side again and rub that lobe with some fine emery cloth or something to at least make it smooth. To replace the camshaft and this animal, you must remove the whole head. I don't want to do that. Please send me your best advice, even if it will be hard for me to hear! John jmates@... |
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Re: Subaru Torque
Tom Myers
Can anyone comment on the difference in low RPM torque (1500-2500?rpm) between the 2.2 Sub conversion and the standard 2.1L WBX. Is the Sub better or worse? Every day I reverse up a steep driveway in close quarters.?
If there was less torque I would not be happy.?? Subaru
2.2L is noticeably torquier than WBX even at idle.
Tom
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Re: starting engine
Tom Myers
I'm getting ready to install my subaru engine. It has been sittingI've taken apart engines that have sat for years, and the parts are not dry. Six months is nothing. I'd just start it. Tom -- +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: | e-mail: TomMyers@... +------------------------------------+ |
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Ed McKinley
I'm getting ready to install my subaru engine. It has been sitting
quietly for 6 months since its host vehicle got rear ended. Does anyone have any recommendations about preparing an engine for starting. My concern is that the oil may have drained down and most the bearing surfaces may be dry. Many years ago, when I worked on the air the cooled engines we used a very, very viscous oil on all the moving parts if the engine was going to sit for any time and even if it was going right in. |
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Subaru engine prices in NZ
I'm surprised to find that US prices for used Subaru engines are so high,
especially as it seems that you get SOHC versions there. Here in New Zealand you can get a DOHC EJ20 (Legacy 2.0) for $350US. DOHC EJ20 single-turbo for $750US. DOHC EG33 (SVX) for $2250. Haven't seen EJ18 or EJ22 (1.8 and 2.2 Legacy) prices yet. Add about $250 for complete electrics. A dealer in Japan offered me a 290hp WRX Type RA EJ20 single-turbo for $1800US including shipping, with full electrics and 5-speed trans and driveshafts (I was thinking of modifying the trans case to flip the diff and use in my Vanagon). Many of these are brought in from Japan, either out-of-car or still mounted in wrecks brought in for parts. I am told also that the Legacy auto trans is weak and often gives problems. Others have told me that the 5-speed is weak too, but have doubts about that. Shame Subaru never produced a dieselboxer, though I'm sure they made prototypes. How about a turbodiesel DOHC 24V diesel six boxer? Has anyone tried modifying a Subaru trans to run backward for rear-engined application? Andrew Dunedin New Zealand Andrew Grebneff Dunedin New Zealand Molluscophile 69 VW Kombi-Corvair 75 VW Kombi (ex Toyota 3.5 V8) 84 VW T3 Caravelle GL/SVX 85 Mitsubishi Sigma Super Saloon 2.0 86 Toyota Corolla DX 1.8 diesel 89 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel |
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Porsche trans in Vanaru?
I'm a new member of this list, having seen the announcement of its
beginning on vanagon.com. I guess most members are vanagon.com as well? I am gathering parts and information for my 84 Caravelle's upcoming conversion. Currently it is fitted with a 174hp 3.8liter V6 from a VN Holden Commodore (Holden is the Australian GM division). The 094 5-speed was in the process of failing when I bought it, and I wanted to fit a Porsche trans. However then I decided that as the heavy iron anchor causes serious understeer, I should go to Subaru power. I bought a 250hp 3.3liter EG33 engine from an SVX wreck in Japan. This will be desmogged and run an aftermarket computer, so should produce 260hp or a bit more. Engine cost $1250US; I could have had the computer etc from another Jap wreck for a further $250US, but due to uncertainty as to how well this would work (I know Hobert Kennedy of KEP is working on the SVX electrics now, but the US wiring etc is unlikely to be compatible with a Japanese-market engine system, and it could end up extremely expensive to get fitted from scratch) I passed this up and just grabbed the ignitor for $27. As I have serious doubts about any VW trans to handle 200hp-plus I brought a late-type (aluminum-case) Porsche 915 trans in from the States. I have found out how to do most of the fitting of this to the van, but it will need shifter, front mount and output flange adaptors fabricated. As VW axles can break under severe loadings use of Porsche 930 CVs is judged wise, and the 915 drive flanges, which accept VW CVs, need adaptor plates made. After the trans is fitted I can measure things up and order Sway-a-Way axles. This seems seriously fiddly. Nobody makes a full kit, though Weddle sells SAW axles, 930 CVs, 930 stubaxles etc for a decent price, it lacks shifter adaptor, front mount and 930 output flanges. Does anybody have experience fitting one of these trans? The Getrag G50 trans, fitted to later 911s, is far stronger and better-shifting than the 915, and is just about bulletproof. I think I have found a G50-Vanagon kit in Germany. Apparently it is complete, including short-bellhousing trans, mount, shifter adaptor, CVs (G50-equipped 911s use 930 CVs), stubaxles, axles etc, all for DM4500 ($2250US). It was offered to my by Claer Automabile through an e-mail intermediary who doesn't know cars. Herr Claer is not on e-mail, says through this lady that I can reach him by fax. However, though he speaks good Englisch, he doesn't reply directly to my faxes, but passes them via his friend, who doesn't like it. Has anyone else been in contact with Herr Claer? The G50 kit will not cost all that much more than the 915 plus incomplete kit, and when fabrication and labor are taken into account for the 915, the supposedly bolt-in G50 kit may actually be cheaper, as well as much easier. I need to claerify this business before I can make an order, either for the Claer or Weddle kit. German Vanagon nuts and websites haven't been of any help. Can anyone on this list help? Andrew Grebneff Dunedin New Zealand Andrew Grebneff Dunedin New Zealand Molluscophile 69 VW Kombi-Corvair 75 VW Kombi (ex Toyota 3.5 V8) 84 VW T3 Caravelle GL/SVX 85 Mitsubishi Sigma Super Saloon 2.0 86 Toyota Corolla DX 1.8 diesel 89 Toyota Corona Select 2.0 diesel |
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Subie Transplant Kit, starter question
Patrick Bryson
Hello All,
#1 I've asked this question before in a couple of other forums with no response, but i'll give it a try here. I'm looking for a KEP Subie conversion kit that someone purchased and decided not to use. i'm just trying to save a buck. I will convert my van whether i pay full price or not, but untill i save enough 100 dollar bills, i'm keeping my eyes open for a deal. Anyone know of one? #B Is there a less expensive, good quality way to upgrade the starter in my '85 Vanagon when i put in the 2.2 without buying from Hobert? Can i just use any '86 and newer starter? Thanks for the help! Patrick '85 Westy '73 Thing '84 911 Targa '88 Buick really big wagon. 4 sale - engine in wrong end |
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Re: Engine transplant, oil
Larry Hamm
Marshall Ruskin wrote:
A local yard has a Subaru Legacy FS with 130,000 KM, maybe 90,000 miles.Marshall, Depends on price and condition, I guess. With average maintenance, that engine probably only has another 100k miles left in it, 150k to 200k if it's had very good care. My wife's '91 Legacy was owned by a pilot, and the sucker runs like new at 194k miles. I expect to get an easy 250k, maybe 300k before she wants a new car. On the other hand, if the autotrans goes before that, maybe I'll just have a spare engine for the Westy! I'd try to get a compression check, or at least pull one of the valve covers to check the valve train components for varnish. A lot of dark varnish on the parts can be an indication of poor maintenance, while nice shiny surfaces show better care. Also check the rear plastic belt covers where they bolt to the head for signs of melting and distortion. Any melting here is a sure sign that the engine had been overheated. Probably best to pass in this case. Was the car wrecked, or is the body in good shape? If the body's good, then the trans or engine is shot. Any chance of finding out who the owner was? They are often a great source of info. Good luck, Larry |
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Re: Engine transplant, oil
Marshall Ruskin
A local yard has a Subaru Legacy FS with 130,000 KM, maybe 90,000 miles.
Is this one too tired to use as a transplant? TIA Marshall Ruskin The Rabbit diesel is unusual, they are happy at high RPM, and wouldprobably cruise at 70 on the level. The Subaru will cruise 70 up a pretty goodgrade with less interior noise, but more fuel expense. Total cost of kit andand 18 MPG on automatic. |
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Re: Engine transplant, oil
KEP
The Rabbit diesel is unusual, they are happy at high RPM, and would probably
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cruise at 70 on the level. The Subaru will cruise 70 up a pretty good grade with less interior noise, but more fuel expense. Total cost of kit and engine should be about $3000 if you do the work. Allow three days for the wiring if you like that work. Allow another three full days for radiator plumbing and setting the engine, etc. in place. Expect 20 MPG on manual and 18 MPG on automatic. Bastards are always hard to sell, bus owners with this kit normally will refuse to sell for any price. Hobert Kennedy Kennedy Engineered Products 38830 17th St. East Palmdale, CA 93550 (661) 272-1147 ----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Brubaker <rmbrubaker@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...>; <syncro@...>; <vanagon@...> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Engine transplant, oil Greetings. I am a new subscriber to these Vanagon lists and find them |
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Re: Engine transplant, oil
Jay Gardner
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If I keep it to 55-60 mph i've gotten 26mpg on freeway. normal Calif. freeway speeds I get 22mpg some city mostly freeway, which is 2 better than the 1.9l that came out of it. (We put about 30k on this car per year in our business.) I now have 40k on this motor and have noticed a slight falloff in mpg, when we did my wifes westy she was only getting 19-20 with the ox sensor that came from the junkyard, we switched it out and she now gets 21 - 22 combined freeway and city. Jay and Pam 1985 Dbl. Cab 1985 Westy ----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Brubaker <rmbrubaker@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...>; <syncro@...>; <vanagon@...> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Engine transplant, oil Greetings. I am a new subscriber to these Vanagon lists and find them |
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Re: Engine transplant, oil
Tom Myers
Hello Ray,
Some quick answers. Good luck on whatever you choose! Greetings. I am a new subscriber to these Vanagon lists and find them$3000 About how long did it take to complete the job?12 days Has it given better gas milage? If so how much?Increased - from 18.5 mpg to 19.5 mpg How does this conversion affect the resale value.Unknown. Who would sell such a perfect vehicle? Tom -- +---------------------------------------+ | The AMAZING BLENDERPHONE | webpage: | | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | e-mail: blender@... +---------------------------------------+ |
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Engine transplant, oil
Ray Brubaker
Greetings. I am a new subscriber to these Vanagon lists and find them
interesting and helpful. Since '93 I and my wife have been the happy owners of an '86 GL Syncro, now with 175K miles. Unfortunately my original engine, in otherwise good running condition (needs the heads resealed for external coolant leak), needs to be changed because of contamination of the oil system from a failed oil filter. This has lead me to consider the options of a different engine. I have looked at the different options shown on the Vanagon web site. Maybe I missed something, but is there anyone who has installed a Turbocharged Diesel with as much or more power than the 2.1L and capable of reving high enough to cruise at 70+ mph? My other interest is in the Subaru conversion. Some questions for those who have done it. What was the total cost by the time you were finished? About how long did it take to complete the job? Has it given better gas milage? If so how much? How does this conversion affect the resale value. Although I have already read a lot about this through the web site and e-mail groups, I have not yet gotten through all the archives. If the answers to my questions are already out there, forgive me for asking again and point me in the right direction. A comment about oil used. Since I have had this van (68K to 175K) I have used only synthetic oil. First Amsoil, than Mobil 1 and now Castrol Syntec. The engine still has good power and compression and uses no oil (OK 1/2 qt in 4000 mi). I resently found out that Castrol Syntec is what my local VW dealer recomends. thanks for all the input. Ray Brubaker |
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Re: Question for KEP (re: Syncro Install)
Tom Myers
ANY MEMBERS CONVERTED SYNCRO'S YET??My advice would be: If you never drive in deep water, the snorkel sure sounds like it's more trouble than its worth. I wish I had a Syncro Westy, and if I did, I would then wish I actually went places where I needed the snorkel! Tom -- +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: | e-mail: TomMyers@... +------------------------------------+ |
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A/C and Cruise Control Experience???
Warren Chapman
My '90 Van has(or had) both A/C and Cruise Control.
I value them both for those long trips down Hwy 5 enroute to my favorite mountain spots. Would like to hear any experiences of getting these accessories to work. The AC seems not too difficult, but the cruise control is a definite challenge. Warren C. San Francisco Bay Area '90 Syncro Westy |
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Re: Question for KEP (re: Syncro Install)
Warren Chapman
ANY MEMBERS CONVERTED SYNCRO'S YET??
If so, what did you do with the intake plumbing?? Modify for the Syncro or use Kennedy's setup as-is.? Warren Chapman San Francisco Bay Areaj '90 Syncro Westy --- In subaruvanagon@..., "KEP" <kennedy@h...> wrote: The Vanagon filter and intake is so restrictive that I decided itwas better to use the Subaru intake duct with our filter. Some customers haveused the Subaru filter box but it is not an intake silencer like our filter.side be used for wires. The Subaru air duct dictated that the filterbelonged on the driver side. You are welcome to change these things. |
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Re: Question for KEP (re: Syncro Install)
KEP
The Vanagon filter and intake is so restrictive that I decided it was better
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to use the Subaru intake duct with our filter. Some customers have used the Subaru filter box but it is not an intake silencer like our filter. The length of the engine control wires dictated that the passenger side be used for wires. The Subaru air duct dictated that the filter belonged on the driver side. You are welcome to change these things. Hobert Kennedy Kennedy Engineered Products 38830 17th St. East Palmdale, CA 93550 (661) 272-1147 ----- Original Message -----
From: Warren Chapman <tallsound@...> To: <subaruvanagon@...> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 5:24 PM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Question for KEP (re: Syncro Install) QUESTION+++ Do you have Syncro specific air intake plumbing?? (If |
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