I got a temperature guage that screaws on to the radiator, very handy.? Sounds like your guage is off.
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Scott Wolfe styme99@... [subaruvanagon] wrote:
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Yes....my radiator does get hot and the fan does kick on. ?It just seems that the Subaru temp sensor and the Volkswagen temp gauge both show very hot when the fan kicks on. ?It seems awkward that both sensor and gauge would be inaccurate at the
same time. ?At what temps should the fans be kicking on? I thought that was around 195 and 210 but I¡¯m not sure. ?
If the thermostat isn¡¯t opening at all or even the whole way....I figured I would be overheating during highway driving also. ?
Let me add that when the fan does kick on it only runs for 15-20 seconds and then shuts off for a couple of minutes. ?The engine temp sensor shows the temp dropping to around 215 then goes back up to 219-224 slowly and the fan kicks back on for
a few seconds. ?Cycling like this for an hour. ?
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My guess is that you may have gotten an air bubble in the heater hose circuit, which sends water to the thermostat, if the thermostat isn't opening, hot water isn't getting to the radiator.? Is your radiator getting warm when your engine is hot?
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Scott Wolfe
styme99@... [subaruvanagon]
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No I have not changed my fluid lately, but it is pretty fresh. ?About two years old. ?
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?You recently change your coolant?? I had a similar problem until I " burped" the air out.
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 7:01 AM,
styme99@... [subaruvanagon]
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What should my engine temp at idle be? A few weeks ago my van overheated while idling in the driveway and I noticed that the fans were not running. So I replaced my fan switch. It just seems that while at idle my fans don¡¯t kick on until the dash gauge is
very high. So I hooked it up to my computer to see at what engine temp the fans are kicking on. I let it idle for about an hour yesterday without it overheating on the dash gauge, but the slow speed fan kicks on when the engine is usually at 219 and went as
high as 225 one time. I think my manual says the engine should be 185 at idle. The fan fluctuated between 210 and 217 mostly throughout the hour of idling. The dash gauge was pretty far to the right at this time...
Driving on the freeway the van cruises with the dash needle just to the left side of the red light, almost strait up and down. I am using the Volkswagen temp sensor in the engine for the dash gauge. No resistor.
Does anyone else expirience the gauge that high before the fans kick on, and idle temps this high? Thank you
This is a 2001 ej25 sohc out of a legacy outback installed in an 82 diesel vanagon.
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Yes....my radiator does get hot and the fan does kick on. ?It just seems that the Subaru temp sensor and the Volkswagen temp gauge both show very hot when the fan kicks on. ?It seems awkward that both sensor and gauge would be inaccurate at the
same time. ?At what temps should the fans be kicking on? I thought that was around 195 and 210 but I¡¯m not sure. ?
If the thermostat isn¡¯t opening at all or even the whole way....I figured I would be overheating during highway driving also. ?
Let me add that when the fan does kick on it only runs for 15-20 seconds and then shuts off for a couple of minutes. ?The engine temp sensor shows the temp dropping to around 215 then goes back up to 219-224 slowly and the fan kicks back on for
a few seconds. ?Cycling like this for an hour. ?
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My guess is that you may have gotten an air bubble in the heater hose circuit, which sends water to the thermostat, if the thermostat isn't opening, hot water isn't getting to the radiator.? Is your radiator getting warm when your engine is hot?
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Scott Wolfe
styme99@... [subaruvanagon]
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No I have not changed my fluid lately, but it is pretty fresh. ?About two years old. ?
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?You recently change your coolant?? I had a similar problem until I " burped" the air out.
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 7:01 AM,
styme99@... [subaruvanagon]
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What should my engine temp at idle be? A few weeks ago my van overheated while idling in the driveway and I noticed that the fans were not running. So I replaced my fan switch. It just seems that while at idle my fans don¡¯t kick on until the dash gauge is
very high. So I hooked it up to my computer to see at what engine temp the fans are kicking on. I let it idle for about an hour yesterday without it overheating on the dash gauge, but the slow speed fan kicks on when the engine is usually at 219 and went as
high as 225 one time. I think my manual says the engine should be 185 at idle. The fan fluctuated between 210 and 217 mostly throughout the hour of idling. The dash gauge was pretty far to the right at this time...
Driving on the freeway the van cruises with the dash needle just to the left side of the red light, almost strait up and down. I am using the Volkswagen temp sensor in the engine for the dash gauge. No resistor.
Does anyone else expirience the gauge that high before the fans kick on, and idle temps this high? Thank you
This is a 2001 ej25 sohc out of a legacy outback installed in an 82 diesel vanagon.
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??????????????????? Wes
He says that the Fan Switch was replaced after the issue arose ~ But there still could be
a bubble somewhere ~
??????????????????? Scott
Are You getting heat from the Front Heater & Does turning the HeaterFans on Drop the Temp' @All ~ ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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My 90Westy VDubaru has an EJ25 with an '01 ImprezaRS Eng' Harness & ECU ~ Here in the ABQ Area we see Temp's from
Below 0 to Above 100 & My VDubarus CoolingSyst' Never Seems To Care ~ It Always Reaches 182?F @ 2.5Mi's from leaving
Home @ Stays Within 1-2? of that the Vast Majority of Most Any Trip ~ Stop&Go & Long HillClimbs can push it up to the High
190s, but when it Hits 197?F the Rad'Fan comes on & VeryQuickly takes it back to the Low 180s, Very Long Steep HillClimbs
will get it up into 200-210s ~ I have Tom Shiels ThermostatHousing on it & it runs about 10?F cooler then it did before that
was Added ~ My Heaters work Extremely Well ~ So Well, in fact, that I Seldom Ever need to turn on the Front Heater Fan ~
The Rear Heater is actually My Primary Heat Source ~
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ORR ~ DeanB
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Have you checked to see if your new fan switch works and is hooked up correctly?
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Scott Wolfe styme99@... [subaruvanagon]
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I did however change my radiator fan switch and I thought I bled all the air out thru the radiator bleed fitting. ?
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?You recently change your coolant?? I had a similar problem until I " burped" the air out.
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 7:01 AM, styme99@... [subaruvanagon]
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What should my engine temp at idle be? A few weeks ago my van overheated while idling in the driveway and I noticed that the fans were not running. So I replaced my fan switch. It just seems that while at idle my fans don¡¯t kick on until the dash gauge is
very high. So I hooked it up to my computer to see at what engine temp the fans are kicking on. I let it idle for about an hour yesterday without it overheating on the dash gauge, but the slow speed fan kicks on when the engine is usually at 219 and went as
high as 225 one time. I think my manual says the engine should be 185 at idle. The fan fluctuated between 210 and 217 mostly throughout the hour of idling. The dash gauge was pretty far to the right at this time...
Driving on the freeway the van cruises with the dash needle just to the left side of the red light, almost strait up and down. I am using the Volkswagen temp sensor in the engine for the dash gauge. No resistor.
Does anyone else expirience the gauge that high before the fans kick on, and idle temps this high? Thank you
This is a 2001 ej25 sohc out of a legacy outback installed in an 82 diesel vanagon.
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My guess is that you may have gotten an air bubble in the heater hose circuit, which sends water to the thermostat, if the thermostat isn't opening, hot water isn't getting to the radiator.? Is your radiator getting warm when your engine is hot?
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Scott Wolfe styme99@... [subaruvanagon] wrote:
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No I have not changed my fluid lately, but it is pretty fresh. ?About two years old. ?
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?You recently change your coolant?? I had a similar problem until I " burped" the air out.
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 7:01 AM, styme99@... [subaruvanagon]
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What should my engine temp at idle be? A few weeks ago my van overheated while idling in the driveway and I noticed that the fans were not running. So I replaced my fan switch. It just seems that while at idle my fans don¡¯t kick on until the dash gauge is
very high. So I hooked it up to my computer to see at what engine temp the fans are kicking on. I let it idle for about an hour yesterday without it overheating on the dash gauge, but the slow speed fan kicks on when the engine is usually at 219 and went as
high as 225 one time. I think my manual says the engine should be 185 at idle. The fan fluctuated between 210 and 217 mostly throughout the hour of idling. The dash gauge was pretty far to the right at this time...
Driving on the freeway the van cruises with the dash needle just to the left side of the red light, almost strait up and down. I am using the Volkswagen temp sensor in the engine for the dash gauge. No resistor.
Does anyone else expirience the gauge that high before the fans kick on, and idle temps this high? Thank you
This is a 2001 ej25 sohc out of a legacy outback installed in an 82 diesel vanagon.
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I did however change my radiator fan switch and I thought I bled all the air out thru the radiator bleed fitting. ?
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?You recently change your coolant?? I had a similar problem until I " burped" the air out.
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 7:01 AM, styme99@... [subaruvanagon]
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What should my engine temp at idle be? A few weeks ago my van overheated while idling in the driveway and I noticed that the fans were not running. So I replaced my fan switch. It just seems that while at idle my fans don¡¯t kick on until the dash gauge is
very high. So I hooked it up to my computer to see at what engine temp the fans are kicking on. I let it idle for about an hour yesterday without it overheating on the dash gauge, but the slow speed fan kicks on when the engine is usually at 219 and went as
high as 225 one time. I think my manual says the engine should be 185 at idle. The fan fluctuated between 210 and 217 mostly throughout the hour of idling. The dash gauge was pretty far to the right at this time...
Driving on the freeway the van cruises with the dash needle just to the left side of the red light, almost strait up and down. I am using the Volkswagen temp sensor in the engine for the dash gauge. No resistor.
Does anyone else expirience the gauge that high before the fans kick on, and idle temps this high? Thank you
This is a 2001 ej25 sohc out of a legacy outback installed in an 82 diesel vanagon.
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No I have not changed my fluid lately, but it is pretty fresh. ?About two years old. ?
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?You recently change your coolant?? I had a similar problem until I " burped" the air out.
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 7:01 AM, styme99@... [subaruvanagon]
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What should my engine temp at idle be? A few weeks ago my van overheated while idling in the driveway and I noticed that the fans were not running. So I replaced my fan switch. It just seems that while at idle my fans don¡¯t kick on until the dash gauge is
very high. So I hooked it up to my computer to see at what engine temp the fans are kicking on. I let it idle for about an hour yesterday without it overheating on the dash gauge, but the slow speed fan kicks on when the engine is usually at 219 and went as
high as 225 one time. I think my manual says the engine should be 185 at idle. The fan fluctuated between 210 and 217 mostly throughout the hour of idling. The dash gauge was pretty far to the right at this time...
Driving on the freeway the van cruises with the dash needle just to the left side of the red light, almost strait up and down. I am using the Volkswagen temp sensor in the engine for the dash gauge. No resistor.
Does anyone else expirience the gauge that high before the fans kick on, and idle temps this high? Thank you
This is a 2001 ej25 sohc out of a legacy outback installed in an 82 diesel vanagon.
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?You recently change your coolant?? I had a similar problem until I " burped" the air out.
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 7:01 AM, styme99@... [subaruvanagon] wrote:
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What should my engine temp at idle be? A few weeks ago my van overheated while idling in the driveway and I noticed that the fans were not running. So I replaced my fan switch. It just seems that while at idle my fans don¡¯t kick on until the dash gauge is very high. So I hooked it up to my computer to see at what engine temp the fans are kicking on. I let it idle for about an hour yesterday without it overheating on the dash gauge, but the slow speed fan kicks on when the engine is usually at 219 and went as high as 225 one time. I think my manual says the engine should be 185 at idle. The fan fluctuated between 210 and 217 mostly throughout the hour of idling. The dash gauge was pretty far to the right at this time..
Driving on the freeway the van cruises with the dash needle just to the left side of the red light, almost strait up and down. I am using the Volkswagen temp sensor in the engine for the dash gauge. No resistor.
Does anyone else expirience the gauge that high before the fans kick on, and idle temps this high? Thank you
This is a 2001 ej25 sohc out of a legacy outback installed in an 82 diesel vanagon.
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I uploaded photos in the photos section so I can show what my gauge and temp sesnor are showing as the fan kicks on.
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What should my engine temp at idle be? A few weeks ago my van overheated while idling in the driveway and I noticed that the fans were not running. So I replaced my fan switch. It just seems that while at idle my fans don¡¯t kick on until the dash gauge is very high. So I hooked it up to my computer to see at what engine temp the fans are kicking on. I let it idle for about an hour yesterday without it overheating on the dash gauge, but the slow speed fan kicks on when the engine is usually at 219 and went as high as 225 one time. I think my manual says the engine should be 185 at idle. The fan fluctuated between 210 and 217 mostly throughout the hour of idling. The dash gauge was pretty far to the right at this time.
Driving on the freeway the van cruises with the dash needle just to the left side of the red light, almost strait up and down. I am using the Volkswagen temp sensor in the engine for the dash gauge. No resistor.
Does anyone else expirience the gauge that high before the fans kick on, and idle temps this high? Thank you
This is a 2001 ej25 sohc out of a legacy outback installed in an 82 diesel vanagon.
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Re: 2001 legacy EJ25 no Injector pulse
Good to see you found the issue.?
?Hopefully starts after to have corrected this
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Re: 2001 legacy EJ25 no Injector pulse
Hey Wayne.? I think we are having a convo on samba as well...
I have confirmed voltage to the TPS and MAP sensors and Atmospheric sensor. This is supposed to be fed by the other missing wire (B136-15). They all seem to be getting the correct voltage from elsewhere.?
I have also confirmed that I accidentally pulled the sensor ground wire from b136 - 16. This wire goes to a little blue connector/junction that connects a bunch of other grounds. Im about 90% sure this is the issue. This ground serves a bunch of sensors through the 'shield and ground joint connector' (b83). I have to scrounge up a couple of pinned wires to remake the connection from b136-16 to b83-12. ?Ill keep everyone updated!
Info used through pages WI-90 through W-I97. WI-95 seemed to be the most useful.
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Re: 2001 legacy EJ25 no Injector pulse
Looking at your diagnostic charts can you test the voltages by backprobing the pins at the ECU connectors. The TPS gets power and ground from 136 15 and 16. The voltage at 136 17 should be 0.2-1.0 with throttle fully closed,ign switch ON. The atmospheric sensor signal 136 29 should be 3.9-4.1 with ign switch ON. The pressure sensor 136 5 should be 2.4-4.8 with ign switch ON. The intake air temp sensor? 136 13 should be 2.3-2.5v with ign switch ON .
Sorry if these pins/values are not right as I am looking at my 01 Impreza sheets and I think they are the same as I looked over yours.
I think the ECU wants to see these signal voltages.
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Re: 2001 legacy EJ25 no Injector pulse
I think AG42B should match. As well is there a 9 digit code?? When I matched mine 02 Impreza ECU the numbers were 22611 AF403 A18-000-D9Y? plus something like 1Y30 (which doesn't have to be an exact match)
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Re: 2001 legacy EJ25 no Injector pulse
Its the ecu pinout for a 2001 legacy. I posted them so there is no confusion on which ecu pins which.
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Re: 2001 legacy EJ25 no Injector pulse [2 Attachments]
what's the deal with these red, yellow and green spread sheets, it this a testing program or something?
On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 1:50:44 PM MST, erolo@... [subaruvanagon] wrote:
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just tested the voltage with key on and got 0v between 2(black) and 4(red/yellow) at the tps. But i may have tested pin 1 and 3? It seems as tho pin 4 is missing from the tps as well?
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Re: 2001 legacy EJ25 no Injector pulse
I also multimeter tested the red/yellow wire at the tps and at the MAP sensor by probing the rd/yellow wire and connecting the other side to the common ground on the manifold. By connecting to this known ground, i got 5v. This would in theory verify that these sensor are missing their grounds from 136-16?
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Re: 2001 legacy EJ25 no Injector pulse
just tested the voltage with key on and got 0v between 2(black) and 4(red/yellow) at the tps. But i may have tested pin 1 and 3? It seems as tho pin 4 is missing from the tps as well?
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