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Re: AXA tool post holder


 

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??? ??? One of the nice things about the 38 different angles you can set the tool at on a multi-fix? . Lets say you have squared your tool post with your chuck & you do a bunch or turning? & then it's time to part off . So you move your tool holder over ( remember your have already squared ) & you start your parting & then oh damn I forgot to do something . You move the tool holder to whatever angle you need & go back to your turning? , Now your finally ready to part , but oh damn you need to re square your tool post , oh , wait your already squared & you put the parting tool back where it was when you originally started parting & boom your all set & parting away .

??? ??? so there's one

??? ??? animal

On 3/6/2022 1:20 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:

I can answer a bit of that, about the difference between the Multifix and Aloris types, anyway. The Multifix has (IIRC) 38 specific angles that are built into the toolpost so you can select a tool holder and angle of approach for that tool holder quite repeat ably. The AXA style post give you two angles. You can get more angles by shifting the post but it's not indexable in the same way the Multifix is.

Do you NEED it? I have no idea! ;) So far, I've been able to do anything I needed to do with an AXA clone. Though I can see how the multiple repeatable angles could be very handy for someone doing certain kinds of production work. The thing I like about the KDK-style post is the same thing I like about the AXA post, but I also like that the lock and unlock lever on the KDK operated in a vertical direction, instead horizontal like the AXA style post. I've had problems with that handle getting in the way on both my AXA at home, and the BXA on the lathe I most use at school.

Would any one of them be great to have? Heck yes! All three might be a bit of overkill, though. I wouldn't get rid of my lantern toolpost either. They have advantages the QCTP's don't, as well. And disadvantages. Yeah, I know, not a lot of help there, huh? ;)

Bill in OKC

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On Sunday, March 6, 2022, 01:57:57 PM CST, Matthew Kosh <matthewkosh11@...> wrote:


I’m curious why? What have you found to be the benefits of the Multifix or KDK designs over the Aloris? I’ve used an Aloris for many years and have no complaints about its quality or repeatability, but having only played with a Multifix at a friend’s shop, I just don’t have experience with them, and never seen a KDK except in pictures.

Can you say more?

Matthew

On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:17 AM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

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??? ??? Yea , the multi-fixstyle it what I'd buy if i was ever to do it again over a Aloris clone .

??? ??? animal

On 3/6/2022 9:08 AM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
As far as I can tell, you can get Chinese import clones of the KDK. An AXA equivalent with 5 holders is $3-400, IIRC, search on Ebay and you'll find them. The Multifix is worse, pricewise, but that multiple fixed angles thing is a nifty feature.

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


Aphorisms to live by:
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better


On Sunday, March 6, 2022, 11:04:06 AM CST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


??? ??? ??? While I don't have a KDK I really like them . I have noticed that of all the " real machine shops " that the most common tool post are the KDK & the Multi-fix? over the Aloris . While a real KDK is totally out of my price range if I were to ever upgrade I'll probably get one of the multi-fix clones . Are the KDK 's still being made ?

??? animal

On 3/6/2022 6:49 AM, comstock_friend wrote:
I had to eliminate 'T nut' and 'belt' from my eBay South Bend searches as half of the returns were T nuts and belts which I have no current need for.

As for the Aloris style post and locking lever, my KDK's are nicely off to the side. I have the 0 size on the SB 9" and the 100 size on the SB 13". I always liked the clean top of the KDK style. Although the KDK's can be found all over the USA, they are certainly more populous on the West Coast as they started in the LA area...

John

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