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Re: AXA tool post holder


 

This is the one that I read about that is supposed to be as good as the original.?

Also more expensive.

Bill in OKC?

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On Saturday, February 26, 2022, 07:51:23 PM CST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


??? ??? This one is a import from China I believe . I have read some
reviews on it & they seem favorable . I have heard of some European
clones , some good & some not so good .? The 2 I have read the most
about is the Creat Tool? ( china ) & the Pewetools ( germany )





??? ??? I read a lot of folks talking smack about the one from China on
the forums but none of those folks have one .

??? ??? I have the QCTP from CDCO & looking at some of the other clones
out there it's probably one of the better ones? .I had to replace the
dog point screws out of the box . I also had to take it apart to clean
out all the crap inside from manufacturing , but I would have done that
anyways just to see how it worked & I had to re-clock the handle anyways
. The adjusting screws have had issues since I bought the tool post? ,
so I'll be replacing those along with the brass thumb nuts? sooner than
later . I bought a bunch of tool holders here & there same thing with
those the hardware sucks but? the base part is fine .

??? ??? end of rant for now

??? ??? animal


On 2/26/2022 12:42 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
> MIke, is that the "Good" clone, or the bad clone? Someone else bought the one that's imported into Germany, and it was two or three times that cost. It is supposedly the "Good" clone. I didn't touch it so can't say for sure. Think it was mentioned on the SouthBendLathe group, but could be wrong/
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> Bill in OKC
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> William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
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>? Aphorisms to live by:
> SEMPER GUMBY!
> Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
> Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
> The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
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>? On Saturday, February 26, 2022, 02:28:45 PM CST, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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>? ? ??? ??? If I was to buy a new tool post to replace my import AXA I
> would get one of these Multi-Fix clones . Had I know that they were
> around I would have bought one instead of the AXA .
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>? ??? ??? A bit more than the AXA , but I can live with that . When I buy
> something I study the hall out of it . I don't have as much disposable
> income as a lot of folks . I like the option to change the clock of the
> tool holder without having to loosen the nut on top of the QCTP . I look
> at a lot of the machine shops I've been in & the KDK & Multi-Fix far out
> number the Aloris style of QCTP's .
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> Yea it isn't as easy to make more tool holders , but what's wrong with a
> challenge ? At $190.00 it's still cheaper than some AXA clones out there .
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> On 2/26/2022 12:02 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
>> True that, and why I generally say AXA-Clone. Partially because mine is a Chinese copy, and partially because the AXA-size is the one that fits 9-12" lathes, generally speaking. My school lathe that I love is a 13" Clausing Colchester, which has the BXA tool post, the other machines are 15" CC lathes, and they have CXA tool posts. The BXA I use is an Aloris, IIRC. They are very nice for some things. I'm also collecting tooling for the lantern-style tool posts, as there are some things they work better for. Best is to have both a QCTP of some sort, and the lantern style. Both will easily do some things the other cannot. If? you work production, you'll mostly want the QCTP.
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>> If you never do duplicate parts, you won't need a QCTP at all, but AFAIK, most folks who are hobbyists can make good use of both. Name brand QCTP's tend to be rather expensive. Just the tool post without tool holders is about half of what I paid for my Atlas TH42, and about a third of what I paid for my restoration project SB Heavy 10L. is about $380. Technically, the Phase II is actually a clone, too, of the Aloris. Supposedly of higher quality than mine, but I couldn't prove it. ;) Mine is around $160 on Amazon with 5 toolholders.
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>> For folks who can't afford or don't want to spend the money to get either, you can make a Van Norman style. GK at the SouthBendLathe group just did that, based partially on the Ralph Patterson version that was popular on the 7x Mini-lathes. You can find that info here: /g/Mini-Lathes/files/Ralph%20Patterson%20Mini-Lathe%20and%20metalworking%20projects%21/RalphPattersonML among other stuff. I'm the owner of that group, and anyone who's interested in welcome to join.
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>> William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
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>>? ? Aphorisms to live by:
>> SEMPER GUMBY!
>> Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
>> Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
>> The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
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>> I have a PhaseII (same as AXA if I understand it properly) holder on my SB 10K. It came that way. Looks like it was a direct replacement for the old lantern style holder. PhaseII just slides right onto the T-slot in the compound.
>> For future reference in case a newbie reads this, Phase II is a brand, AXA is a size.
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