Re: 141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe
Hi Martyn, This ebay is the same as Stationary engine parts. I use these belts. They are a bit tricky to get right when you assemble the clamps and pin them down. Or I may not have the trick. You
need to be very precise when cutting the belt square and then getting the pins to bite the belt in the right place. They will make a noise each time they go round the pulley. But I like their quality, I just have to buy extra to allow for my mistakes in fitting
them.
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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 11:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe
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Hi Martyn,
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Got a 6' tool room one of those at the Golden Valley Light Railway, Derbyshire. Take a look at these on ebay (and at our website while you're at it, as the lathe is illustrated & described there).
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The same supplier does other sizes of belting.
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Eddie
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From: "Martyn 2E0MHL via groups.io" <nytraml@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 27 Oct, 23 At 16:51
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] 141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe
Hi,
Just joined the group.
Martyn is the name .
We have an old Southbend lathe, 14 1/2" swing 7ft bed, I believe to be 1940s, with quick change gearbox.
This is in our workshop used for all manor of things related to the motor trade. We build engines, race prep etc.
We are in the UK by the way.
We are in need of a new flat belt for the south bend 1 3/8" wide and 69-70" long.
Where would we get one of these and the joiner for it? Ours is currently joined with cable ties....yes I know...not the best way, but it works.
Is there anywhere in the Uk that supplies these or would it be just US?
Any help from UK or US Southbend users would be appreciated.
Martyn
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Re: 141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe
Hi Martyn,
Got a 6' tool room one of those at the Golden Valley Light Railway, Derbyshire. Take a look at these on ebay (and at our website while you're at it, as the lathe is illustrated & described there).
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371882773843
& https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373055900566
The same supplier does other sizes of belting.
Eddie
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From: "Martyn 2E0MHL via groups.io" <nytraml@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 27 Oct, 23 At 16:51
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] 141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe
Hi,
Just joined the group.
Martyn is the name .
We have an old Southbend lathe, 14 1/2" swing 7ft bed, I believe to be 1940s, with quick change gearbox.
This is in our workshop used for all manor of things related to the motor trade. We build engines, race prep etc.
We are in the UK by the way.
We are in need of a new flat belt for the south bend 1 3/8" wide and 69-70" long.
Where would we get one of these and the joiner for it? Ours is currently joined with cable ties....yes I know...not the best way, but it works.
Is there anywhere in the Uk that supplies these or would it be just US?
Any help from UK or US Southbend users would be appreciated.
Martyn
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Re: 141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe
There is a seller on e-bay he is in Niles, Illinois, Usa he sells leather? Flat belts and supplies. That is the best source i fund?
GP
On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 03:54:54 PM EDT, Ruud <silverrs@...> wrote:
Hi Martyn,
You could use a strip from a supermarket convayerband at the rigisters.
Check out Winky on Youtube how to glue them.
I used formic acid and two pieces of wood with a clamp for 24 hours.
Regrets from the Netherlands of an Heavy 10 owner,
Ruud ?
Van: [email protected] < [email protected]> Namens Martyn 2E0MHL via groups.io Verzonden: vrijdag 27 oktober 2023 17:52 Aan: [email protected]Onderwerp: [SouthBendLathe] 141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe ? Hi,
Just joined the group.
Martyn is the name .
We have an old Southbend lathe, 14 1/2" swing 7ft bed, I believe to be 1940s, with quick change gearbox.
This is in our workshop used for all manor of things related to the motor trade. We build engines, race prep etc.
We are in the UK by the way.
We are in need of a new flat belt for the south bend 1 3/8" wide and 69-70" long.
Where would we get one of these and the joiner for it? Ours is currently joined with cable ties....yes I know...not the best way, but it works.
Is there anywhere in the Uk that supplies these or would it be just US?
Any help from UK or US Southbend users would be appreciated.
Martyn
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Re: 141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe
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I have bought from these guys in UK
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Martyn 2E0MHL via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 6:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] 141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe
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Hi,
Just joined the group.
Martyn is the name .
We have an old Southbend lathe, 14 1/2" swing 7ft bed, I believe to be 1940s, with quick change gearbox.
This is in our workshop used for all manor of things related to the motor trade. We build engines, race prep etc.
We are in the UK by the way.
We are in need of a new flat belt for the south bend 1 3/8" wide and 69-70" long.
Where would we get one of these and the joiner for it? Ours is currently joined with cable ties....yes I know...not the best way, but it works.
Is there anywhere in the Uk that supplies these or would it be just US?
Any help from UK or US Southbend users would be appreciated.
Martyn
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Re: 141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe
Hi Martyn,
You could use a strip from a supermarket convayerband at the rigisters.
Check out Winky on Youtube how to glue them.
I used formic acid and two pieces of wood with a clamp for 24 hours.
Regrets from the Netherlands of an Heavy 10 owner,
Ruud ?
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Van: [email protected] < [email protected]> Namens Martyn 2E0MHL via groups.io Verzonden: vrijdag 27 oktober 2023 17:52 Aan: [email protected]Onderwerp: [SouthBendLathe] 141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe ? Hi,
Just joined the group.
Martyn is the name .
We have an old Southbend lathe, 14 1/2" swing 7ft bed, I believe to be 1940s, with quick change gearbox.
This is in our workshop used for all manor of things related to the motor trade. We build engines, race prep etc.
We are in the UK by the way.
We are in need of a new flat belt for the south bend 1 3/8" wide and 69-70" long.
Where would we get one of these and the joiner for it? Ours is currently joined with cable ties....yes I know...not the best way, but it works.
Is there anywhere in the Uk that supplies these or would it be just US?
Any help from UK or US Southbend users would be appreciated.
Martyn
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141/2" 1940s Southbend lathe
Hi,
Just joined the group.
Martyn is the name .
We have an old Southbend lathe, 14 1/2" swing 7ft bed, I believe to be 1940s, with quick change gearbox.
This is in our workshop used for all manor of things related to the motor trade. We build engines, race prep etc.
We are in the UK by the way.
We are in need of a new flat belt for the south bend 1 3/8" wide and 69-70" long.
Where would we get one of these and the joiner for it? Ours is currently joined with cable ties....yes I know...not the best way, but it works.
Is there anywhere in the Uk that supplies these or would it be just US?
Any help from UK or US Southbend users would be appreciated.
Martyn
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Single Tumbler 10" FS Yuba City Ca CL
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Take a soldering iron with some of the same type plastic and weld the crack back up. Plenty of videos showing how to do it.? Then make a sleeve bushing for the screw hole to prevent over tightening the screw. Al ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Rogan Creswick Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 11:11 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Lathe FS Reno NV CL ? I actually have a 3d printed one (a friend printed it for me, I sanded, painted, and turned the brass dial): Unfortunately I over tightened the set screw recently, and started a small crack, so I'm just keeping an eye out for a metal one that isn't $300. ? On Wed, Oct 18, 2023, 7:45?PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote: I hear some library's have 3D printers as well as alot of Maker-spaces . animal On 10/18/23 7:21 PM, John Byghtn3 via wrote: I have seen 3-D printed units for $40 range.? Maybe find a 3-D model on one of the various Thingiverse type web sites and commission someone to do it for you? Wait for the deal you want to pay for on an original iron/steel unit. On 10/18/2023 9:07 PM, Rogan Creswick wrote: Thanks for the link! That one won't fit my 10k, unfortunately. ?
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I actually have a 3d printed one (a friend printed it for me, I sanded, painted, and turned the brass dial):
Unfortunately I over tightened the set screw recently, and started a small crack, so I'm just keeping an eye out for a metal one that isn't $300.
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023, 7:45?PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
I hear some library's have 3D printers as well as alot of
Maker-spaces .
animal
On 10/18/23 7:21 PM, John Byghtn3 via
wrote:
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I have seen 3-D printed units for $40
range.?
Maybe find a 3-D model on one of the
various Thingiverse type web sites and commission someone to do
it for you?
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.... Then ....
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Wait for the deal you want to pay for
on an original iron/steel unit.
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Good Luck!
On 10/18/2023 9:07 PM, Rogan Creswick
wrote:
Thanks for the link! That one won't fit my 10k,
unfortunately.
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I hear some library's have 3D printers as well as alot of
Maker-spaces .
animal
On 10/18/23 7:21 PM, John Byghtn3 via
groups.io wrote:
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I have seen 3-D printed units for $40
range.?
Maybe find a 3-D model on one of the
various Thingiverse type web sites and commission someone to do
it for you?
.
.... Then ....
.
Wait for the deal you want to pay for
on an original iron/steel unit.
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Good Luck!
On 10/18/2023 9:07 PM, Rogan Creswick
wrote:
Thanks for the link! That one won't fit my 10k,
unfortunately.
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I have seen 3-D printed units for $40
range.?
Maybe find a 3-D model on one of the
various Thingiverse type web sites and commission someone to do it
for you?
.
.... Then ....
.
Wait for the deal you want to pay for
on an original iron/steel unit.
.
Good Luck!
On 10/18/2023 9:07 PM, Rogan Creswick
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Thanks for the link! That one won't fit my 10k,
unfortunately.
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If anyone buys it to sell for parts, I'm interested in that threading dial ;)?
It looks like a 10K (light 10) to me.? It also looks like the half-nut engagement lever has been broken off.
John
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It looks like a 10K (light 10) to me.? It also looks like the half-nut engagement lever has been broken off.
John
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I'm guessin this is one of the 10 " models ?
animal
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FS 27" South Bend Turn-nado lathe
27" lathe with all accessories as removed from a military shop equipment trailer delivered in 1984.? Made by South Bend under military contract; believed to be a standard 17" Turn-nado with riser blocks.? Short bed to fit into trailer.? Appears to have little if any use and includes what appears to be all available accessories, all in original crating.? Includes 3 and 4 jaw chucks, steady and follow rests, taper attachment, metric transposing gears, Jacobs rubberflex collet chuck, large faceplate, various centers and numerous tool holders.? 208V 3 phase.? Photo shows lathe in shop trailer but it has since been removed.? Additional photos available.? Located in Columbia, SC,? $5000.
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not mine
this one has the nice long bed
I think there's only one bed thats maybe 6" longer
animal
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Re: OT this ones for Eddie
I had heard of wheel spin damage this bad when a driver fell asleep for an extended period, but that was in Africa, so unlikely to be somewhere with snow on the ground! The railway administration's answer to the problem? It was a Diesel loco. They removed the driver's seats and made them stand. With rougher wheelspin control systems, BR used to get some rail burns to a shallow depth, mostly where heavy freights got brought to a stand on inclines and there had to be limits on those of course, as the hot spot creates a hard spot that can be brittle.
The opposite problem is if a wheelset locks up and gets dragged a long distance. One of my earliest call outs was to a container train that had been stopped at Tyneside Central Freight yard in Gateshead, with flats about 6" long. The wagon repairer got there before me and had already released and isolated the brakes on that wagon in the middle of its train, suffering from an over enthusiastic slack adjuster. I took one look at those flats, and phoned control to tell them the wagon would have to stay there, please bring a wheelset & the breakdown crane. "Oh no it won't. Do you know what's in those containers?" "No idea at all." "Whisky". We agreed to let it go forward at walking pace to the container depot which was only about 4 miles away, rather than leave it parked in Gateshead of all places! Sorry, Gateshead, but think back to 1979! As it departed slowly past me, you could hear CLUNK chink -- CLUNK chink... I went home. It can get more serious - we've had a traction motor vibrated off the loco onto the track when a previously locked wheel decided to start rotating again, and the rear loco of a passenger train lifted off the track because the wheel flange on a dragged wheel set had got so high that it just lifted off at a cast steel crossing. God, - the paperwork!
With modern traction, this should be a thing of the past, as the auto wheelspin control is infinitely superior. BR's class 60 (3100 HP) heavy freight locos, for which I was BR's commissioning engineer in the early 90s, were built with creep control from stationary and have been measured producing 500kN tractive effort from a loco weighing about 128 tonnes. You can put one against the buffers, apply full power and watch each of the 6 wheelsets independently turning VERY slowly, even if you oil one of them. You can google all these references, class 60 was an entirely British (apart from semi conductors of course!), pretty well entirely Hawker Siddeley product, and to this day can still pull the later General Motors (EMD, now Turner Diesel or possibly even Caterpillar) class 66 backwards.
Eddie
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From: "John via groups.io" <reproturn@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, 25 Sep, 23 At 08:07
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] OT this ones for Eddie
How the heck does a train do that! What a mess, looks like some of my off-hand grinding efforts. Thanks for sharing Mike.
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Re: OT this ones for Eddie
How the heck does a train do that! What a mess, looks like some of my off-hand grinding efforts. Thanks for sharing Mike.
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You don't see this every day
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Ruud
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John
