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Re: Bonding Diamond Grit

 

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The diamond plate sharpening stones are bonded by spreading the diamond grit on a piece of steel and nickel plating it to hold the diamonds bonded there.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Poore via groups.io <mpoore10@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2024 10:43:37 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Bonding Diamond Grit
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This is a tangential topic at best. The question is does anyone know of a way to bond diamond grit to a steel plate? I am thinking about experimenting with general purpose epoxy. However they bond brake linings could work, but I do not know how. Regular epoxy seems like it would fail as the plate heated, but the brake lining adhesive should be more than adequate.
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Background: I have a 1950's era grinding machine that uses steel discs with bonded diamond grit on the flat side of the disc. It would be perfect for HSS or carbide sharpening given its adjustable angle work table. The problem is that the abrasive plates are not available any more. Self-adhering sanding discs are an option, but not preferable.


Re: Bonding Diamond Grit

 

I would think about the epoxy used for industrial floor coatings


On Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 9:43?AM Mike Poore via <mpoore10=[email protected]> wrote:
This is a tangential topic at best. The question is does anyone know of a way to bond diamond grit to a steel plate? I am thinking about experimenting with general purpose epoxy. However they bond brake linings could work, but I do not know how. Regular epoxy seems like it would fail as the plate heated, but the brake lining adhesive should be more than adequate.
?
Background: I have a 1950's era grinding machine that uses steel discs with bonded diamond grit on the flat side of the disc. It would be perfect for HSS or carbide sharpening given its adjustable angle work table. The problem is that the abrasive plates are not available any more. Self-adhering sanding discs are an option, but not preferable.


Bonding Diamond Grit

 

This is a tangential topic at best. The question is does anyone know of a way to bond diamond grit to a steel plate? I am thinking about experimenting with general purpose epoxy. However they bond brake linings could work, but I do not know how. Regular epoxy seems like it would fail as the plate heated, but the brake lining adhesive should be more than adequate.
?
Background: I have a 1950's era grinding machine that uses steel discs with bonded diamond grit on the flat side of the disc. It would be perfect for HSS or carbide sharpening given its adjustable angle work table. The problem is that the abrasive plates are not available any more. Self-adhering sanding discs are an option, but not preferable.


Re: South Bend [Grizzly] SB1002 Owners?

 

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Welcome to the group. As you proceed on your journey feel free to ask any questions. There is a lot of knowledge here. Also there is much data in the files section. ?

Jim B,

On Dec 27, 2024, at 11:36?AM, Peteluckel via groups.io <Peteluckel@...> wrote:

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Greetings,
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Looks like I'm a little late getting to the party but after years of searching the internet, I finally found an Sb1002 for sale and am in the process of cleaning and refinishing.
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Through the years of searching, I found one for sale on the average of once a year.? The first couple I let slip through my fingers and have regretted it since but at last the fun begins.
?
Regards,
?
Pete

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Jim B


Re: South Bend [Grizzly] SB1002 Owners?

 
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Greetings,
?
Looks like I'm a little late getting to the party but after years of searching the internet, I finally found an Sb1002 for sale and am in the process of cleaning and refinishing.
?
Through the years of searching, I found one for sale on the average of once a year.? The first couple I let slip through my fingers and have regretted it since but at last the fun begins.
?
Regards,
?
Pete
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*File Copy - mine is currently scattered all over the shop as I clean and refinish.
?
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Re: Headstock bearings

 

you don't want any other stress on it. drive belt should be loose.


On Mon, Dec 23, 2024 at 5:12?PM mikemm58 via <mmcauley=[email protected]> wrote:
Is the rod thru the spindle test done with the drive belt tensioned or at rest?
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Mike


Re: Headstock bearings

 

Is the rod thru the spindle test done with the drive belt tensioned or at rest?
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Mike


Re: Headstock bearings

 

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Thanks all!

On Dec 22, 2024, at 8:52?PM, mike allen via groups.io <animal@...> wrote:

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I think the procedure is tagged in the sticky's in South Bend forum over on Practical Machinist .

It's also in the Ilion South Bend rebuild books I think

animal

On 12/19/24 8:25 PM, Gary_K via groups.io wrote:
Ahh - got it. ?Thanks.

On Dec 19, 2024, at 11:15?PM, Gary Johnson via groups.io <gwj@...> wrote:

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It’s a glorified crowbar test. Put an indicator on the top of the spindle. Stick a piece of heavy bar stock in the spindle or chuck and lift upwards. Someone else can chime in with the allowable deflection but it’s something around 1 mil.?
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Gary


Re: Headstock bearings

 

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I think the procedure is tagged in the sticky's in South Bend forum over on Practical Machinist .

It's also in the Ilion South Bend rebuild books I think

animal

On 12/19/24 8:25 PM, Gary_K via groups.io wrote:

Ahh - got it. ?Thanks.

On Dec 19, 2024, at 11:15?PM, Gary Johnson via groups.io <gwj@...> wrote:

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It’s a glorified crowbar test. Put an indicator on the top of the spindle. Stick a piece of heavy bar stock in the spindle or chuck and lift upwards. Someone else can chime in with the allowable deflection but it’s something around 1 mil.?
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Gary


Re: Headstock bearings

 

Here is the procedure direct from South Bend


Re: Headstock bearings

 

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Ahh - got it. ?Thanks.

On Dec 19, 2024, at 11:15?PM, Gary Johnson via groups.io <gwj@...> wrote:

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It’s a glorified crowbar test. Put an indicator on the top of the spindle. Stick a piece of heavy bar stock in the spindle or chuck and lift upwards. Someone else can chime in with the allowable deflection but it’s something around 1 mil.?
?
Gary


Re: Headstock bearings

 

It’s a glorified crowbar test. Put an indicator on the top of the spindle. Stick a piece of heavy bar stock in the spindle or chuck and lift upwards. Someone else can chime in with the allowable deflection but it’s something around 1 mil.?
?
Gary


Re: Headstock bearings

 

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He means using this alignment bar:



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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gary_K via groups.io <themachinest0119@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2024 10:42:02 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Headstock bearings
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Animal, can you be more specific about the ‘rod thru the spindle test’? I’m not sure what that is or how to do it - thanks.


On Dec 17, 2024, at 1:14?AM, mike allen via groups.io <animal@...> wrote:

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??? ??? Have ya done the rod through the spindle test ? Tell's ya what kind of clearance yer spindle bearings have . Are the spindle wicks in good shape ?

animal

On 12/16/24 8:35 PM, mikemm58 via groups.io wrote:
Hello, first post here...
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I have a 1947 SB "Heavy 10". Whenever I exert a little too much pressure
when using a parting tool, I can hear 'banging or clattering' in the headstock.
Is this an indication of worn out main bearings?
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Thanks for any help.
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Mike
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Re: Headstock bearings

 

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Animal, can you be more specific about the ‘rod thru the spindle test’? I’m not sure what that is or how to do it - thanks.


On Dec 17, 2024, at 1:14?AM, mike allen via groups.io <animal@...> wrote:

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??? ??? Have ya done the rod through the spindle test ? Tell's ya what kind of clearance yer spindle bearings have . Are the spindle wicks in good shape ?

animal

On 12/16/24 8:35 PM, mikemm58 via groups.io wrote:
Hello, first post here...
?
I have a 1947 SB "Heavy 10". Whenever I exert a little too much pressure
when using a parting tool, I can hear 'banging or clattering' in the headstock.
Is this an indication of worn out main bearings?
?
Thanks for any help.
?
Mike
?


Re: Headstock bearings

 

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??? ??? Have ya done the rod through the spindle test ? Tell's ya what kind of clearance yer spindle bearings have . Are the spindle wicks in good shape ?

animal

On 12/16/24 8:35 PM, mikemm58 via groups.io wrote:

Hello, first post here...
?
I have a 1947 SB "Heavy 10". Whenever I exert a little too much pressure
when using a parting tool, I can hear 'banging or clattering' in the headstock.
Is this an indication of worn out main bearings?
?
Thanks for any help.
?
Mike
?


Re: Headstock bearings

 

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Check the locking pin in the headstock bull gear. I would bet its worn under size.?

Jim B,

On Dec 16, 2024, at 11:53?PM, mikemm58 via groups.io <mmcauley@...> wrote:

?
Hello, first post here...
?
I have a 1947 SB "Heavy 10". Whenever I exert a little too much pressure
when using a parting tool, I can hear 'banging or clattering' in the headstock.
Is this an indication of worn out main bearings?
?
Thanks for any help.
?
Mike
?

--
Jim B


Headstock bearings

 

Hello, first post here...
?
I have a 1947 SB "Heavy 10". Whenever I exert a little too much pressure
when using a parting tool, I can hear 'banging or clattering' in the headstock.
Is this an indication of worn out main bearings?
?
Thanks for any help.
?
Mike
?


Re: Speaking of lathe belts

 

I also have been thinking about the? issue of flat belts. If you live rural ask a farmer if they have discarded belts from a round baler.?? Asked a neighbor and he had several, 6 inches wide and 18 feet long. He also had the splicing tools.? It took some effort to cut them to size but I replaced the belts on 3 machines for zero dollars.


On Sat, Nov 30, 2024, 10:23?PM mike allen via <animal=[email protected]> wrote:

??? ??? A belt place can slice to what ever width ya want . One of those tape measures that sewing folks use can be real handy for measuring what size belt ya need , Real handy for measuring all sort of round things .

animal

On 11/30/24 7:57 PM, Jim_B wrote:
Try McMasters.?
I could only find 1” or 1-1/4”



Jim B,

On Nov 30, 2024, at 10:48?PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

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??? Look in the yellow pages ( if they even still exist ) for a commercial belting co . They will cut to what ya want & if ya don' have a hangup with the alligator lacing they will lace the belt. Last composit belt I hade made for my South Bend was 10 bucks cut to fig & laced . The lacing don' bug me one bit , its the same as tapping yer foot .

animal

On 11/30/24 5:46 PM, harry molwitz via wrote:
I would like a belt for a drill press 1-1/8 wide x 9 foot, I would want to splice it myself in place.

Let me know.


Regards

Harry?


On Tue, Nov 19, 2024, 9:01?PM Mark via <mark21056=[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:00 PM, ww_big_al wrote:

I Like purchasing stuff from SteveWb on eBay.

al


It looks like Steve sells some good stuff although I am curious about his belts and splicing method. I used to work for a printing company and took care of most the belts, splicing and training for belts splicing. Most the belts were for conveyors but many were rated as drive belts as well. Anyway, all the belt suppliers told me "there was no way to get a good strong splice without heat". They also told me that there were cold glues available but recommended against using them. I wonder is Steve uses a cold splice method??

I've been retired for about 7 years now but just over a years ago I found two spools of surplus 2-inch wide Habasit F1 belt material.? This is very good belt and good up to about 1.5 HP (possibly more). At the full 2-inch width it sells for $13/foot and I'm selling it at any width for $5/foot. I will splice for $5 and ship for $8.?

If you need to splice a belt on your lathe I can accommodate but the heater, guide and glue will add a 1-time cost of about $40.?

So a continuous (pre-spiced) belt might be $28-38 bucks and if you want to splice it yourself it's more like $68-78 (depending on length needed).

I've sold about 400 ft and have about 280ft left. Its not selling super quick but once its gone I'll be out of the belt business. New belt is just too dang high priced!?

Send me a private message if you are interested in a new belt and I'll give you price.

Include the length needed and tell me if you want it pre-spliced. (US Shipping only)

Mark


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Jim B

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Re: Speaking of lathe belts

 

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??? ??? A belt place can slice to what ever width ya want . One of those tape measures that sewing folks use can be real handy for measuring what size belt ya need , Real handy for measuring all sort of round things .

animal

On 11/30/24 7:57 PM, Jim_B wrote:

Try McMasters.?
I could only find 1” or 1-1/4”



Jim B,

On Nov 30, 2024, at 10:48?PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

?

??? Look in the yellow pages ( if they even still exist ) for a commercial belting co . They will cut to what ya want & if ya don' have a hangup with the alligator lacing they will lace the belt. Last composit belt I hade made for my South Bend was 10 bucks cut to fig & laced . The lacing don' bug me one bit , its the same as tapping yer foot .

animal

On 11/30/24 5:46 PM, harry molwitz via groups.io wrote:
I would like a belt for a drill press 1-1/8 wide x 9 foot, I would want to splice it myself in place.

Let me know.


Regards

Harry?


On Tue, Nov 19, 2024, 9:01?PM Mark via <mark21056=[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:00 PM, ww_big_al wrote:

I Like purchasing stuff from SteveWb on eBay.

al


It looks like Steve sells some good stuff although I am curious about his belts and splicing method. I used to work for a printing company and took care of most the belts, splicing and training for belts splicing. Most the belts were for conveyors but many were rated as drive belts as well. Anyway, all the belt suppliers told me "there was no way to get a good strong splice without heat". They also told me that there were cold glues available but recommended against using them. I wonder is Steve uses a cold splice method??

I've been retired for about 7 years now but just over a years ago I found two spools of surplus 2-inch wide Habasit F1 belt material.? This is very good belt and good up to about 1.5 HP (possibly more). At the full 2-inch width it sells for $13/foot and I'm selling it at any width for $5/foot. I will splice for $5 and ship for $8.?

If you need to splice a belt on your lathe I can accommodate but the heater, guide and glue will add a 1-time cost of about $40.?

So a continuous (pre-spiced) belt might be $28-38 bucks and if you want to splice it yourself it's more like $68-78 (depending on length needed).

I've sold about 400 ft and have about 280ft left. Its not selling super quick but once its gone I'll be out of the belt business. New belt is just too dang high priced!?

Send me a private message if you are interested in a new belt and I'll give you price.

Include the length needed and tell me if you want it pre-spliced. (US Shipping only)

Mark


--
Jim B


Re: Speaking of lathe belts

 

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Try McMasters.?
I could only find 1” or 1-1/4”



Jim B,

On Nov 30, 2024, at 10:48?PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

?

??? Look in the yellow pages ( if they even still exist ) for a commercial belting co . They will cut to what ya want & if ya don' have a hangup with the alligator lacing they will lace the belt. Last composit belt I hade made for my South Bend was 10 bucks cut to fig & laced . The lacing don' bug me one bit , its the same as tapping yer foot .

animal

On 11/30/24 5:46 PM, harry molwitz via groups.io wrote:
I would like a belt for a drill press 1-1/8 wide x 9 foot, I would want to splice it myself in place.

Let me know.


Regards

Harry?


On Tue, Nov 19, 2024, 9:01?PM Mark via <mark21056=[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:00 PM, ww_big_al wrote:

I Like purchasing stuff from SteveWb on eBay.

al


It looks like Steve sells some good stuff although I am curious about his belts and splicing method. I used to work for a printing company and took care of most the belts, splicing and training for belts splicing. Most the belts were for conveyors but many were rated as drive belts as well. Anyway, all the belt suppliers told me "there was no way to get a good strong splice without heat". They also told me that there were cold glues available but recommended against using them. I wonder is Steve uses a cold splice method??

I've been retired for about 7 years now but just over a years ago I found two spools of surplus 2-inch wide Habasit F1 belt material.? This is very good belt and good up to about 1.5 HP (possibly more). At the full 2-inch width it sells for $13/foot and I'm selling it at any width for $5/foot. I will splice for $5 and ship for $8.?

If you need to splice a belt on your lathe I can accommodate but the heater, guide and glue will add a 1-time cost of about $40.?

So a continuous (pre-spiced) belt might be $28-38 bucks and if you want to splice it yourself it's more like $68-78 (depending on length needed).

I've sold about 400 ft and have about 280ft left. Its not selling super quick but once its gone I'll be out of the belt business. New belt is just too dang high priced!?

Send me a private message if you are interested in a new belt and I'll give you price.

Include the length needed and tell me if you want it pre-spliced. (US Shipping only)

Mark


--
Jim B