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9" workshop wood turning lathe.

 

Mr. Barishman,
??????I think you have one of the best wood lathes money can buy. Also,
there will be a day you will need to turn down something metal and it will do
a fine job of that as well. I have a 9" workshop lathe and when I purchased
it, I also received a bucket of tools and accessories. Looking through all of
this stuff, I found parts to a wood turning lathe. I thought it was just
thrown in there and that was all. Well, I found a 1938 sales catalog of the
9" workshop lathes and sure enough, South Bend sold a wood turning kit for
the 9" lathes. This is the same kit I found with my lathe. I scanned a copy
of that page and sent it as an attachment, I hope it works. I think if South
Bend would sell a kit to let their customers turn wood, it will do a fine
job. I wouldn't give up on it yet, Dean

Re: Vintage South Bend Lathe 9" MODEL C 1935

 

How much do you want for it?

Jay Friedman

-- In southbendlathe@y..., dkbear@e... wrote:
Hello all, I have acquired a Vintage Model C South Bend 9" Metal
Lathe that I was thinking of using for woodturning. I have gotten
some feedback for woodturning use on some message boards and it
seems
problematic in this purpose. So now I am thinking I am going to
have
to part it out on Ebay, but it seems a shame to part out such a
nice
vintage machine. I have had alot of fun trying to get info on the
lathe, today I called South Bend with info I got on this board
(thanks Paul) and found out it shipped December 16th, 1935!!!! I
got
it from an elderly lady who's husband passed away last year. He
used
it as a hobby lathe she says. He seemed to take pretty good care of
it. It ran smooth when I ran it before buying it. I don't see any
excessive wear anywhere. Was basement kept---so not really any
rust!!
Was a real tough job taking it down and hauling parts out of the
basement though!!!! It still has the original Delco 1/4 HP motor on
the countershaft I believe. Mechanisms seemed to work pretty
smoothly
from what I checked. I got all the chucks and tooling along with
it.
So I was wondering if there was any interest here in a Vintage 9"
Model C. Would be great to put effort into repainting and restoring
fully, I think it's a good base for this, nice condition. I live
outside of Chicago. If not really much interest here, I'll part it
out on Ebay. Just thought it would be nice to keep it together, if
there was interest. Would consider trade for Quality/Vintage
Woodturning Lathe. Just let me know. Thanks Alot. Very informative
board.
David Barishman
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Vintage South Bend Lathe 9" MODEL C 1935

 

Hello all, I have acquired a Vintage Model C South Bend 9" Metal
Lathe that I was thinking of using for woodturning. I have gotten
some feedback for woodturning use on some message boards and it seems
problematic in this purpose. So now I am thinking I am going to have
to part it out on Ebay, but it seems a shame to part out such a nice
vintage machine. I have had alot of fun trying to get info on the
lathe, today I called South Bend with info I got on this board
(thanks Paul) and found out it shipped December 16th, 1935!!!! I got
it from an elderly lady who's husband passed away last year. He used
it as a hobby lathe she says. He seemed to take pretty good care of
it. It ran smooth when I ran it before buying it. I don't see any
excessive wear anywhere. Was basement kept---so not really any rust!!
Was a real tough job taking it down and hauling parts out of the
basement though!!!! It still has the original Delco 1/4 HP motor on
the countershaft I believe. Mechanisms seemed to work pretty smoothly
from what I checked. I got all the chucks and tooling along with it.
So I was wondering if there was any interest here in a Vintage 9"
Model C. Would be great to put effort into repainting and restoring
fully, I think it's a good base for this, nice condition. I live
outside of Chicago. If not really much interest here, I'll part it
out on Ebay. Just thought it would be nice to keep it together, if
there was interest. Would consider trade for Quality/Vintage
Woodturning Lathe. Just let me know. Thanks Alot. Very informative
board.
David Barishman
dkbear@...
Re: Hello To All

Paul R. Hvidston
 

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Welcome Webb,
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Glad to have you on board. This group has already been a great?asset in restoring my 9" SB. We all benefit from sharing our experience and discoveries. I'm still in the process of replacing worn parts on my 9" and hope to get to the point where I can repaint it factory color and make it look and run just about as good as it did when it was delivered in 1941. I think its also safe to say that we enjoy interesting personal stories about our lathes.
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I'll ask again if anybody has ever seen a 9" model A with Timken roller bearings in the headstock and no back-gears? That's what I've got, but I did pick up another normal headstock with back-gears because I?wanted a low-speed/high torque range. I'm replacing that, and rebuilding the QC gearbox. It had a few worn gears, a few repaired gears and a crack welded in the case (to name a few things). Once I get everything the way I want it, I'll tear it down and paint it -- someday. I'll probably have some spare parts available after I'm done. Gears, mostly, so I'll keep the group posted.
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Cheers and "blue chips"!
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Paul R. Hvidston
Upland, CA
Hello To All

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Hi,

My name is Webb and I love old South Bend Lathes. I have owned
several 9" models over the past 18 years and have refurbished several
for others. I have been collecting information on these lathes and
can help those who are new to South Bend Lathes and need some
insight. I don't want to come off as a "know it all" but I will help
if I can.

I believe in an open forum and the friendly and honest exchange of
information. I hope to be able to contribute and to learn from those
who have more experience than I do.

Currently, I am restoring several South Bend Lathes. Most are "Heavy
Ten"s but I have one 9" cabinet model that I started rebuilding when
I came across the other lathes.

Well, I guess that have said enough for now. Good Luck and Happy
Machining!

- Blue Chips - Webb
Re: Early SB Workshop Model

 

--- In southbendlathe@y..., jsf1@c... wrote:
I have a 9 x 24 Workshop model that was built in 1935, which I
understand was the first year of this type. (Bought it from Plaza
Machinery VT 6 years ago.)

It differs from later models in that the spindle thread is 1 3/8 x
10
rather than 1? and it does not have a lever for reversing the
spindle
direction. To reverse the spindle a separate gear on a shaft is
inserted in a hole on the back of the headstock which then lines up
with and is meshed into the gear train. (I made the shaft myself
from plans Joe of Plaza sent and bought the gear from Boston Gear.)

Does anyone else have any experience with this type of machine?

Hi jsf1!

I,m glad to see that I'm not the only one who forgets to sign
their posts! See post #75... I not only forgot to sign, but I forgot
to mention that Grandpa's lathe is a 9 X 48. It also has the same
provision for lead screw reversing that you mentioned. Change gears
to the max! The only advantage that I can see is that the gear isn't
going along for the ride when it isn't needed.
Spindle is 1 1/2 X 8, and the bed is heavier than the "Workshops"
that I have seen.

Dave D'Albertanson
Additional note on lathe leveling

Jeanie/Carl
 

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Learned this one from an old timer.
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Four pieces of drill rods about 2 to 3 inches long, diameter big enough to be taller than the?ways, but not so big to be cradled by the ways.
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Two at the headstock, and two at the tailstock, place level on the rods.
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Reasoning on this is -?older lathes with non-hardened ways wear on the ways, the use of the drill rods?- is on the flat surface that has little or no wear.
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Been using it, works for me.
?
Carl
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Early SB Workshop Model

 

I have a 9 x 24 Workshop model that was built in 1935, which I
understand was the first year of this type. (Bought it from Plaza
Machinery VT 6 years ago.)

It differs from later models in that the spindle thread is 1 3/8 x 10
rather than 1? and it does not have a lever for reversing the
spindle
direction. To reverse the spindle a separate gear on a shaft is
inserted in a hole on the back of the headstock which then lines up
with and is meshed into the gear train. (I made the shaft myself
from plans Joe of Plaza sent and bought the gear from Boston Gear.)

Does anyone else have any experience with this type of machine?
9" SB: Hello Paul and others

Jeanie/Carl
 

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Yes it is a "V" belt drive, which will soon be retrofitted with a 10 Craftsman horizontal drive unit.? It seems to work quite nicely, although it does have one draw back, which will I will?remedy soon.?
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?Unfortunately, SB did not give much thought into this type of drive unit, mine is of the older style, no bushings/bearings, etc, and was worn when I got it, is wearing out, and finally have decided to do something about it.? So, have looked at several designs from logan, atlas, craftsman, and was going to make my own, but recently?was able to pick up a complete craftsman?drive unit off ebay.? There drive units, are, or seem to have a much more functional design approach to them.? Will soon find out.?
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?Anyone that is reading this, and has the same "V" belt drive unit (SB), I could use the diameters of the three pulleys, I'm sure the ones on the craftsman unit are not of the appropriate size, it would save me a?lot of time in figuring it out, mathematically based on the mtr pulley and the pulleys on the headstock spindle and spindle speeds.
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The lever operated turret was a stroke of luck, fished it out of a scrap metal barrel, and the guy said "yeah, I'm tired of stubbing my toes on that @#$ thing, etc, etc," it cleaned up real nice and it is still in the tooling up phase (always something to come along and divert one's attention).?
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The bed length is 4', the original was 4-1/2', but was worn out, and picked up the 4' years ago.
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As for the 5c collet chuck, this is a real nice project and considering the commercial ones at $250 plus, I figured why not.? In the article, there are some very close tolerances to maintain, but patience will be rewarded with accuracy.
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Oh, the little tool block on the compound, homemade aloris piston type, it was fun to make.? Sure beats the old rocker, but did not throw the old holders away, now and again there's a need.? Someday will up grade to one of the less expensive wedge type, someday.
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Have a great day.
?
Carl
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Re: 9" SB Owner

Paul R. Hvidston
 

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Welcome Carl,
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Your restoration job looks excellent. You have a real beaut' there. It looks like a V-belt on the spindle. How's that work for you compared to a flat belt? I see you also have the tail stock turret. very cool. What's the bed length on your SB? Thanks for sharing your lathe with us, and please share your 5C collet project with us when you're finished. That one is high on my list after restoring my 9" SB.
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Paul R. Hvidston
Upland, CA
They say I'm obsolete!

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Anyone else out there w/ an 'old style' 14-1/2" w/ 2-1/4x6 spindle?
The model number would be 183-B, C, D, or G (letter varies based on
bed length). I'm looking for a collet closer assembly to fit -
handwheel, tube, closer, spindle nose cap. I've already got the
proper 4C collets. A follower rest might be nice, too.

Thanks,

Phil
9" SB Owner

Jeanie/Carl
 

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Hi:
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Just joined your little group, and new to the "how to" so hopefully this comes out.? Guess will just post a pic and a short "who am I".
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Bought this little lathe "many" years ago at an estate sale, all in pieces.? The restoration is still going on and probably will till the end.? It was a bench model, Joe at Plaza machinery in Vermont (nice folks to do business with) had a cabinet, I built the wood draws inside, etc, etc.
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Been turning for a few years, I'm 50, but by no means an expert.? Do an odd job now and again, would like to do more to support my habit.
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Current project is the 5c collect chuck that was listed in the HSM (I think it was) and hopefully will have completed in a few more days.
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Anyone out there from southeast TX.
?
Carl
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Re: Trick for Greasing Head and Backgear Shafts on 9" SB Lathe

 

To grease the back gear shaft and step pulley with the teflon grease,
does one add grease until it just starts to ooze out of the ends of
the bushings??? JOP



--- In southbendlathe@y..., kestrel@n... wrote:
If you have tried to grease the Spindle Pulley shaft and Backgear
shaft on
your SB, you will find two 1/4" x 20 plugs which you need to remove
to fill
with grease. There is no grease nipple to attach your grease so it
make it
very hard to do.

I made a grease fitting adapter by drilling a 1/8" hole through a
1/4" x 20
UNC Hex head bolt and silver soldiering a standard grease nipple to
the end.
If you do not have torches you can drill and tap the grease fitting
into the
end of the bolt.

To use, just remove the grease plugs and screw in your adapter. Pump
full of
grease and remove. Works Great.

See picture of my adapter.

Hope this helps.

Jim



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Taper attachment for Southbend Fourteen

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Hi

I am new to this group and I just wanted to say hello and introduce
myself. I own a Southbend Fourteen for about two years now and most
of my work centers around making various attachments, making parts
for the kids camaro next door, and whatever else I come up with. I am
looking for a taper attachment for my machine and would appreciate
any leads.

thanks again
ray
Re: Pic's of my Turret Tool Post I Made for my 9" SB

 

Yes I had to buy a new 5" 3-jaw. Price was $95.00 CDN or $65.00 USD.
This has the two sets of Jaws and Wrench.


--- In southbendlathe@y..., "Paul R. Hvidston" <p.hvidston@i...>
wrote:
Nice work, Jim. I presume you used the mill. I'd like to make some
more turret tool posts, but I'll have to use the lathe. Always enjoy
the pictures. The lathe looks very cool. BTW is that a new chuck on
the lathe, or did you manage to somehow polish up an old one?

Paul R. Hvidston
ACKSYS Engineering
Upland, CA

----- Original Message -----
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To: southbendlathe@y...
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:49 PM
Subject: [southbendlathe] Re: Pic's of my Turret Tool Post I Made
for my 9" SB


Subject: Pic's of my Turret Tool Post I Made for my 9" SB


I have also attached a picture of my reconditioned lathe on my new
bench
ready to go.
And my little milling machine I picked up for $400.00.

Enjoy

Jim
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Lubes for the Lathe

Paul R. Hvidston
 

Based upon a combination of Tom Miller's recommendations and my laziness, I
ordered ALL my lube oil and grease from McMaster-Carr. Here's what I got:

Teflon Grease:
Synthetic Grease With PTFE 3-oz Tube, Nlgi #2, Translucent White, 1378K31,
$4.98
"Super Lube"

Type A Spindle Oil:
Mobil Velocite #10 (107 SUS), 1 Gal, 2158K24, $10.44

Type B Gearbox Oil:
Turbine Oil (215 SUS), 1 Gal, 14155K62, $8.02

Type C Screw/Gear Oil:
Multi-purpose machine oil (325 SUS), 1 Gal, 1024K17, $8.02

Also, Way Oil:
Way Lubricants (325 SUS), 1 Gal, 1017K11 $8.44

I decided to try the "Way Oil" even though it is the same SUS (325) as type
C, and even though that's all SB calls for. It says it is supposed to be
tacky and cling to the surfaces better. We'll see.

Paul R. Hvidston
ACKSYS Engineering
Upland, CA
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