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Re: Lathe Spindle Data Page
Sorry see the links tab.
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--- In southbendlathe@..., jwtaylor61@h... wrote:
This great web page gives all the spindle data and sizes for most |
How do you post a picture on this group
Go to your email program and send an email to
"southbendlathe@...". Attach your picture to the message using the attach function. When you send the email it will show up here with your picture. Hope this helps. Jim --- In southbendlathe@..., hurt@l... wrote: Iam pc haddy caped you see I can not spell eather Brett. that is wayI have spell check |
Oil on a SB
I use 90wt grear oil on the gears on my A model. On spindle oil is
Velocete NO. 10 and NO.2 way oil. On the pully stuff I took off the oilers and made a grease fitting and grease it works great SOuth Bend would role over and die but what the heack it was made in 1940 and I do not know what every one used on may machine before I got it. |
Re: SB flat belt
SUre I can but it will be a few days will be gone tomorrow I will send
it to you Brett
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jwtaylor61@... wrote: Can you post a picture of your belt installed? |
Lathe Lubricants
Tom Miller
Paul and I have been trading notes on the SB lubricants and their
viscosity. I am curious as to what lubricants are used by folks that have had SB lathes for a while. There are four types rec by SB, one is a spindle oil, two oils for most of the rest of the oil pts and a bed way oil. SB charges $7.50 per qt. Would appreciate hearing from anyone that has exerperience with alternative sources of oil. thanks Big tom |
Re: SB flat belt
Can you post a picture of your belt installed?
--- In southbendlathe@..., hurt@l... wrote: I see you guys are doing the old leather belt stuff. I JUST WENT OUTCARS. AND PRESTO NO MORE BELT PROBLEMS. IT WORKS GREAT AND ONLY SPENTANY OF YOU GUYS IN bAKERSFIELD ca. |
SB flat belt
I see you guys are doing the old leather belt stuff. I JUST WENT OUT
TO MY AUTO PARTS STORE AND GOT A SURPTEIN BELT THAT THEY USE ON CARS. AND PRESTO NO MORE BELT PROBLEMS. IT WORKS GREAT AND ONLY SPENT $23.00. THEY ARE ALSO MUCH SILLENT ON RUNING. GO TRY IT bRETT. ps ANY OF YOU GUYS IN bAKERSFIELD ca. |
new member
ebower
开云体育Hi,
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Was just informed of this group and checked in.
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I own a 9" South Bend tool room lathe.? I all but the
follower rest for it.? I got the lathe and approximately $3000.00 worth of
Starret, Brown and Sharp, etc. machinist precision measuring instruments for
$1200.00.? I bought the lathe in 1994 thru a machinist friend.
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I have been machining since 1976 when I started with (and
still have) the Atlas 6".
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I now have the AA/craftsman lathe, Atlas 6" lathe, 9" South
Bend lathe, and the 12x37 Grizzly.
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I run Bower Machine & Tool.? I make some accessories
for the above lathes as well as commercial work for a plumbing wholesaler near
me.? (All their work is either brass castings or in brass bar stock.?
What a scrap box I have).?(I have been in business since 1985 and am 55
years old.? I am also a Tool Designer).
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I have read most of the messages and the following is good
sources.
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South Bend Lathe Corp.
400 W. Sample Street
South Bend, Indiana?? 46601
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(219) 289-7771
1-800-24-LATHE (this number is for ordering parts
only)
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I got my manual for my lathe from them for $25.00.? You
receive the full manual along with a lub chart and leveling
instructions.
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The manual shows several lathes in the same series along with
the various accessories and parts list.
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You need the serial number that is in the front way at the
tailstock end to get the right manual.
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Never checked for their web site.
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Another good web site is
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This is
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Metal Lathe Accessories
P.O. Box 88
Pine Grove Mills, PA? 16868
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(814) 234-3543
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Andy Lofquist
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I machined all of his kits and have most of them for my South
Bend.? I quote on machining either partial or all the kit.? I have
made quite a few of his cross slides, face plates and tool posts.
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I use both his turning, boring, and quick retracting threading
tool posts on my machine.
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Check out his web site.? (Why redesign the wheel when he
has kits that are very reasonable.? He supplies drawings and machining
instructions with all his kits).? He has all listed on his web
page.
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The cross slide requires a milling machine as well as the face
plate.?The cross slide requires cutting both dovetails and T-slots and the
face plate requires cutting T-Slots.? The vertical milling attachment also
requires cutting dovetails and T-slots but he shows how to machine them on the
lathe.
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Well enough being long winded.
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Earl
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sb 13 project
Hello everyone, my name is Roger and I live in Mesa, Az. I picked
up a 50s vitage 13 inch SB and slowly fixing it up. It looks in fair shape excep it was handled poorly during a past move and the Quick change handles were broken as were the xfeed and compound handles. Ive straited the xfeed screw and have procured the broken pieces but got busy on other projects and havnt made much progress lately. The bed dose show fair amount of wear up close to the head stock, I think for now I will live with it. I also have a 10 inch logan and a 6inch craftsman lathe. I have factory parts book for the SB. Im not a machinist but learning. I use my lathes to make simple parts or tools for Aircraft Mechanic work. If anyone has any advice on fixing up the old SB Im all ears. Thanks Roger |
Lathe Lubrication
Paul R. Hvidston
Who uses what kinds of lubricants on their SB Lathes? A couple people have
already chimed in: JS Early mentioned 30W ND oil. Tom Miller mentioned Fastenal's p/n 62642, Super Lube Synthetic Based Lube w/Teflon The SB lubrication chart calls for: "Machine Oil Sybold Universal Viscosity Rating in Seconds at 100 degrees F." Type A=100 sec., type B=150-240 sec., type C=250-500 sec. And just what do those translate into? Right now I'm just keeping things sliding with 30WT ND as I'm restoring my SB. Paul R. Hvidston, N6MGN@... ACKSYS Engineering Upland, CA p.hvidston@... |
Re: How I got my 13" South Bend Lathe, oilers and gease at a bargain
Paul R. Hvidston
Tom,
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Wonderful story. My junior high shop teacher would barely let us touch the lathe (with good reason). I recall the only thing I got to make on the lathe was a hammer head. In high school, we got one shop class each semester and for me that was electronics so its time for a redo on growing up. Anyway, thanks for the story and the tidbits of info. Keep 'em coming! Regards Paul R. Hvidston Upland, CA ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Miller" <millertam@...> To: <southbendlathe@...> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 6:55 PM Subject: [southbendlathe] How I got my 13" South Bend Lathe, oilers and gease at a bargain Paul, and the other SB egroupers,... |
How I got my 13" South Bend Lathe, oilers and gease at a bargain
Tom Miller
Paul, and the other SB egroupers,
Loved the web page on the 9" SB, I will try to get some pictures posted of my 13". Ok here is how I got the 13" SB 4' serial no. 91573, mfg. 3 Aug 1939 (this info is from SB). In the early 60's I attend a large HS in Chicago called Lane Tech where I took 2 years of machine shop, 1 ? years more than the normal student. In college I also had a practical applications course where we used a turret lathe and did a project on manufacturing. Now I have always had a shop in my home, mainly woodworking and automotive repair. And I have always thought about someday having my own lathe, but its sort of hard to justify such an item with college payments, house mortgages etc. Well, about 2 years ago I ran into a fella at a local flea market who was selling used machine shop tools and I struck up a conversation with him about my old HS days and using a lathe. I casually mentioned to him that someday I would like to purchase a lathe, but just could not fathom what my dear wife would say if I spent several thousand dollars on a machine that made center punches… the classic HS project we all made. He suggested I go see a man in Richmond who dealt in used machinery, his name was Dempsey. Well I shrugged this off, again putting the whole idea on the back burner of my mind. I have no idea what possessed me to visit Dempsey's on the 13th of Nov 99, about a year after the flea market incident, but I did. He's located in the City of Richmond, VA and open on Saturdays only, from about 9:30 AM to 4:30 PM. Dempsey's is in an old warehouse. There I wandered around old lathes, mills, and drill presses of every size and shape imaginable. Then I spotted two old friends, two lathes, identical in size and make, and the exact lathes I had used in HS. I knew not what they were in HS, but I did recognize them. You may not believe this, but they even smelled the same as they did in HS, now this is 38 years ago. Although I rally had no intentions of buying this lathe, later finding out it was a 13" 4' South Bend, I asked Mr. Dempsey what it went for, figuring 2000 dollars or so. When he said $800.00, I said you have a deal. Only then did I ask if it ran. He said of course and he would guarantee it and if there were any problems he'd work them out with me. Oh gee now what? I just bought a lathe identical to the one I had used 36 years ago in HS. Ok I knew how to use it, that came back like riding a bicycle, but I knew not how to connect it up, 3 phase you say? Ok Mr. Dempsey how do I run a 3-phase motor with 220 in my house. Well he just happened to have a converter, for up to 3 HP for about $100. So off I went with the converter and a receipt for my new lathe with no idea how I was going to get 800+lbs of South Bend home, let alone what I was going to tell the wife. Again Mr. Dempsey says he knew a guy who would be reasonable and would deliver it to my shop.. Sure enough an auto towing service used one of those tilt bed auto haulers to load it and deliver it. A good operator can perform miracles with one of these tilt beds, trust me. He positioned it through a garage door on my shop floor and with a crow bar we were able to jack it around and slide it to its new home about 20 miles south of Richmond, VA. I will go into the wife's reaction later, but suffice it so say it was not too bad as I am still married. My oldest son, 28, said, "Dad what that's machine in the basement". Then when I told him it was a quick-change gear lathe, he said, "OK, but what do you make with it?". I said center punches and pls do not ask any more dumb questions. OK so that's it! Now a couple of things I have learned since Nov 99. Oilers: High School shop lathes took a fair amt of abuse from well intended students. Like they round off the compound rest sharp corners quickly. I can still hear Mr. Buchanan screaming about removal of the 4 jaw chuck key before turning the lathe on, I think his voice hit peak even before the key hit the floor after bouncing off the light fixture or ceiling. Anyway these oilers, of which there are many at least on a 13" are 10 to 15 bucks from South Bend. But the same oilers are available from Gits for like $1.50. Call 1-800- 323-3238 or go to the Gits web site . You will have to figure out the size as Gits has many different oilers, but I was able to match things up pretty well. I may be able to help 13" guys here. I also found that the oilers were threaded in some cases and other pressed in, both types are available from Gits. One of the tail stock oilers had a wick, available from SB. The threaded ones use a very fine thread and these taps, finer than NF, are available from MSC another great source of machine tools. Lubricants: Ok I ordered SB oils and lubricants, again, pretty steep, but I wanted the real stuff. I have subsequently found that the back gear shaft and stepped pulley grease sent by SB is available from Fastenal Corp at Fastenal.com. Look for the Part no. 62642 which is Super Lube Synthetic Based Lube w/Teflon, 3 Oz tubes. This is the same grease SB will send you, but they charge $16.00, Fastenal charges $4.44. OK sorry for the dialogue guys, I will pass along some other things later, I have not restored anything on it yet, as believe it or not, it runs real smooth. I did make sure I oiled and greased everything prior to initial start up. Big Tom |
Re: Some more pics.
Paul R. Hvidston
开云体育Dean,
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Nice looking lathe. Could you tell me the diameter
of the pulleys on the motor and at the top of the jack-shaft (the red ones)? I
may need to duplicate those.
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Thanks
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Paul R. Hvidston Upland, CA ----- Original Message -----
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Some more pics.
Hi all, I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas. I have a a page dedicated to
my South Bend 9" workshop lathe, there is not much there but at least you can see a couple of pics of another lathe. Also, I am storing this lathe until make a decision on keeping it and I was wondering if I could use those machinery mounts I found in the Grizzly catalog instead of bolting down this lathe? I can't bolt it down where I have it stored at. I tried one day to turn a small part just to see it run but it vibrated to much. Thanks, Dean http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vwone/myhomepage/profile.html Just click on My South Bend Page. ?? |
Re: South Bend 10K Lathe
JS. EARLY
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From the information I have the 10K is the light 10 and virtually the same as the 9" A in most specifications. The heavy 10 has a larger spindle bore for 5C collets and a 2 1/4-8 spindle nose instead of the 1 1/2-8 of the 9"/10K. Also if you find a good heavy 10 it is not going to be cheap. There have been several on Ebay recently and the went from $2500 up as against $1000 up for 9" model A/10K and $500 up for 9" model B. 9" model C are really not worth much as they are very basic machines. JWE ----- Original Message -----
From: <wbs4u@...> To: <southbendlathe@...> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 9:46 AM Subject: [southbendlathe] South Bend 10K Lathe Can anyone furnish specs. for the 10K lathe? I am looking for a 9"/10" |
South Bend 10K Lathe
Can anyone furnish specs. for the 10K lathe? I am looking for a 9"/10"
w/the 1 3/8" (or larger) spindle bore & have come across a few 10K's. Also source for parts list & drawings for the same lathe. What is the lowdown on the 10K vs. the Regular 10". Is this the "Light 10" vs. the "Heavy 10" Tony of the UK refers to on his wonderful website. One better than other? Is the more plentiful 9" a better machine(prefer the Model A). Had a 1928 9" w/1 3/8"-10 spindle about 20 years ago. An excellent machine! A 9" Junior,I think. I have been through the 6" Craftsman to the 10" Atlas presently. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill Scheider |
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