If ya have to lift it with a engine hoist? or anything for that
matter make sure ya put a tag-line on the lathe . That line can be
one of yer best friends day of move .
Good luck , pic's or it didn't happen
be careful
animal
On 2/14/25 4:36 PM, James Rice via
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I have a South Bend 16
with the 12ft bed length option.? I think the model is a
117H.? I moved it to my shop on a 16' utility trailer.? The
previous?owner bolted it to a shipping frame made of
2"x4"x1/2" rectangular?tubing?to prevent the long bed from
sagging, twisting and breaking the casting. It slid into my
trailer very easily using pipe rollers and a pair of cable
hoists.? We also had two large helpers for?additional muscle
power.
At my shop, I had to
unload the lathe?and shift it around my shop by myself.? I do
have a shop built A-frame that is wide enough to straddle?my
trailer and has the chain hoist trolly at 12' off the floor.?
I also had a piece of 6" scrap I-beam left over from bracing a
sagging ceiling in my house after the previous owner removed a
load bearing wall.? I drilled holes in the beam and used it as
a spreader to lift the lathe up and drive the trailer out from
under the lathe, then lower it to the concrete floor.? I then
used pipe rollers, cable hoists and farm jacks to move the
lathe 40' across the shop floor to where?it still resides. I
was a bit nervous when I picked it up with a pair of engine
cranes to remove the transport frame from the pedestal and two
support legs.?
My 16 came with a
telescopic steady rest, a telescopic follower rest, taper
attachment, 5C collet closer, a 12" 4-jaw, 8" 3-jaw and a good
assortment of older Armstrong tool holders, lantern tool post
and a good collection of centers. Plus some other fiddly bits.
I run it with a VFD and modified the old mount for the drum
switch to hold a 22mm pushbutton station to control the VFD.
James R
What
you need is a few bodies and simple basic equipment.? Our
14.5" (1943 build date) was dragged out of a derelict
garage using a pull lift & slings.? We found a couple
of old doors & bits of timber on site to slide it on,
& managed to get it onto my car trailer (the car at
that time was a Peugeot 306 Diesel estate and certainly
knew it had a load behind it!? Said load included a bucket
full of tooling too heavy to lift, 2 chucks,
faceplate...).? On arrival at the railway, the trailer was
backed into the shed, under the gantry crane.? The crane
only covers part of the shed, so it had to move onwards on
lengths of tube (old boiler tubes) used as rollers,
persuaded by a crow bar.? Need plenty of spare rollers to
keep switching from back to front.? The secret is take
your time and do it gently and in small stages.? You'll
get the hang of steering it.? See attached.
?
If
we hadn't had the crane and had to unload it manually,
that would have been the most risky part.? Think I'd have
put the pull lift on again to control the descent and slid
it down some lengths of rail or similar.
?
Yes,
the pedestals include cut outs for a toe jack or long crow
bar.? Either suffices.? Sorry, can't advise the sizes of
the holes for the levelling screws.? My money would be on
something UNC (uncommon in our works). ?
?
Since
I can see myself in this photo, I think it was supplied by
Simon Waller.
?
Eddie
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------ Original Message ------
From: ron.kellis=yahoo.com@groups.io
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 14th 2025, 16:14
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] New 16" & Rigging
?
Hi all, expect to be picking it up on Sunday, with a
drop deck trailer. I have a 10EE, so not my 1st big lathe
move, but the pedestal is a new challenge. Initial
questions.
Is there a toe jack cut-out on the inside of the
pedestal?
What diameter are the base and feet holes?
I've guesstimated the pedestal width ~ 20". Is this
about right?
?
I am planning on a "As shipped by SB" type pallet and
KISS pipe rollers as the floor is smooth. Think I need 4 X
4" runners or would two 2" X 12" X 9' be sufficient?
?
I don't really like the ~ 30"? narrow, not sure which
is more scary, 4" high and ~40" wide, or stay only 2"
high. Another option is I can easily notch the runners to
drop the height to lower my pucker factor.
?
I have a toe jack, engine hoist for a safety, and
pallet jack. The 10EE pallet I made was 4X6 with 2X12"
cross pieces. The 6" height let me get the pallet jack
under it but that was done to get it off the trailer after
loading it with a lift. I did have to work the center of
gravity by shifting one of the center boards to the toe of
the tines. Just went very slow. But the SB has no where
near the base mass of the 10EE, hence my caution. Other
ideas/suggestions are welcome!
?
TIA
?
Ron
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I have a South Bend 16 with the 12ft bed length option.? I think the model is a 117H.? I moved it to my shop on a 16' utility trailer.? The previous?owner bolted it to a shipping frame made of 2"x4"x1/2" rectangular?tubing?to prevent the long bed from sagging, twisting and breaking the casting. It slid into my trailer very easily using pipe rollers and a pair of cable hoists.? We also had two large helpers for?additional muscle power.
At my shop, I had to unload the lathe?and shift it around my shop by myself.? I do have a shop built A-frame that is wide enough to straddle?my trailer and has the chain hoist trolly at 12' off the floor.? I also had a piece of 6" scrap I-beam left over from bracing a sagging ceiling in my house after the previous owner removed a load bearing wall.? I drilled holes in the beam and used it as a spreader to lift the lathe up and drive the trailer out from under the lathe, then lower it to the concrete floor.? I then used pipe rollers, cable hoists and farm jacks to move the lathe 40' across the shop floor to where?it still resides. I was a bit nervous when I picked it up with a pair of engine cranes to remove the transport frame from the pedestal and two support legs.?
My 16 came with a telescopic steady rest, a telescopic follower rest, taper attachment, 5C collet closer, a 12" 4-jaw, 8" 3-jaw and a good assortment of older Armstrong tool holders, lantern tool post and a good collection of centers. Plus some other fiddly bits. I run it with a VFD and modified the old mount for the drum switch to hold a 22mm pushbutton station to control the VFD.
James R
What you need is a few bodies and simple basic equipment.? Our 14.5" (1943 build date) was dragged out of a derelict garage using a pull lift & slings.? We found a couple of old doors & bits of timber on site to slide it on, & managed to get it onto my car trailer (the car at that time was a Peugeot 306 Diesel estate and certainly knew it had a load behind it!? Said load included a bucket full of tooling too heavy to lift, 2 chucks, faceplate...).? On arrival at the railway, the trailer was backed into the shed, under the gantry crane.? The crane only covers part of the shed, so it had to move onwards on lengths of tube (old boiler tubes) used as rollers, persuaded by a crow bar.? Need plenty of spare rollers to keep switching from back to front.? The secret is take your time and do it gently and in small stages.? You'll get the hang of steering it.? See attached. ? If we hadn't had the crane and had to unload it manually, that would have been the most risky part.? Think I'd have put the pull lift on again to control the descent and slid it down some lengths of rail or similar. ? Yes, the pedestals include cut outs for a toe jack or long crow bar.? Either suffices.? Sorry, can't advise the sizes of the holes for the levelling screws.? My money would be on something UNC (uncommon in our works). ? ? Since I can see myself in this photo, I think it was supplied by Simon Waller. ? Eddie
? ------ Original Message ------
From: ron.kellis=yahoo.com@groups.io
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 14th 2025, 16:14
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] New 16" & Rigging
? Hi all, expect to be picking it up on Sunday, with a drop deck trailer. I have a 10EE, so not my 1st big lathe move, but the pedestal is a new challenge. Initial questions. Is there a toe jack cut-out on the inside of the pedestal? What diameter are the base and feet holes? I've guesstimated the pedestal width ~ 20". Is this about right? ? I am planning on a "As shipped by SB" type pallet and KISS pipe rollers as the floor is smooth. Think I need 4 X 4" runners or would two 2" X 12" X 9' be sufficient? ? I don't really like the ~ 30"? narrow, not sure which is more scary, 4" high and ~40" wide, or stay only 2" high. Another option is I can easily notch the runners to drop the height to lower my pucker factor. ? I have a toe jack, engine hoist for a safety, and pallet jack. The 10EE pallet I made was 4X6 with 2X12" cross pieces. The 6" height let me get the pallet jack under it but that was done to get it off the trailer after loading it with a lift. I did have to work the center of gravity by shifting one of the center boards to the toe of the tines. Just went very slow. But the SB has no where near the base mass of the 10EE, hence my caution. Other ideas/suggestions are welcome! ? TIA ? Ron
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What you need is a few bodies and simple basic equipment. ?Our 14.5" (1943 build date) was dragged out of a derelict garage using a pull lift & slings. ?We found a couple of old doors & bits of timber on site to slide it on, & managed to get it onto my car trailer (the car at that time was a Peugeot 306 Diesel estate and certainly knew it had a load behind it! ?Said load included a bucket full of tooling too heavy to lift, 2 chucks, faceplate...). ?On arrival at the railway, the trailer was backed into the shed, under the gantry crane. ?The crane only covers part of the shed, so it had to move onwards on lengths of tube (old boiler tubes) used as rollers, persuaded by a crow bar. ?Need plenty of spare rollers to keep switching from back to front. ?The secret is take your time and do it gently and in small stages. ?You'll get the hang of steering it. ?See attached. ? If we hadn't had the crane and had to unload it manually, that would have been the most risky part. ?Think I'd have put the pull lift on again to control the descent and slid it down some lengths of rail or similar. ? Yes, the pedestals include cut outs for a toe jack or long crow bar. ?Either suffices. ?Sorry, can't advise the sizes of the holes for the levelling screws. ?My money would be on something UNC (uncommon in our works). ? ? Since I can see myself in this photo, I think it was supplied by Simon Waller. ? Eddie
?
------ Original Message ------
From: ron.kellis@...
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 14th 2025, 16:14
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] New 16" & Rigging
? Hi all, expect to be picking it up on Sunday, with a drop deck trailer. I have a 10EE, so not my 1st big lathe move, but the pedestal is a new challenge. Initial questions. Is there a toe jack cut-out on the inside of the pedestal? What diameter are the base and feet holes? I've guesstimated the pedestal width ~ 20". Is this about right? ? I am planning on a "As shipped by SB" type pallet and KISS pipe rollers as the floor is smooth. Think I need 4 X 4" runners or would two 2" X 12" X 9' be sufficient? ? I don't really like the ~ 30"? narrow, not sure which is more scary, 4" high and ~40" wide, or stay only 2" high. Another option is I can easily notch the runners to drop the height to lower my pucker factor. ? I have a toe jack, engine hoist for a safety, and pallet jack. The 10EE pallet I made was 4X6 with 2X12" cross pieces. The 6" height let me get the pallet jack under it but that was done to get it off the trailer after loading it with a lift. I did have to work the center of gravity by shifting one of the center boards to the toe of the tines. Just went very slow. But the SB has no where near the base mass of the 10EE, hence my caution. Other ideas/suggestions are welcome! ? TIA ? Ron
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Hi all, expect to be picking it up on Sunday, with a drop deck trailer. I have a 10EE, so not my 1st big lathe move, but the pedestal is a new challenge. Initial questions.
Is there a toe jack cut-out on the inside of the pedestal?
What diameter are the base and feet holes?
I've guesstimated the pedestal width ~ 20". Is this about right?
?
I am planning on a "As shipped by SB" type pallet and KISS pipe rollers as the floor is smooth. Think I need 4 X 4" runners or would two 2" X 12" X 9' be sufficient?
?
I don't really like the ~ 30"? narrow, not sure which is more scary, 4" high and ~40" wide, or stay only 2" high. Another option is I can easily notch the runners to drop the height to lower my pucker factor.
?
I have a toe jack, engine hoist for a safety, and pallet jack. The 10EE pallet I made was 4X6 with 2X12" cross pieces. The 6" height let me get the pallet jack under it but that was done to get it off the trailer after loading it with a lift. I did have to work the center of gravity by shifting one of the center boards to the toe of the tines. Just went very slow. But the SB has no where near the base mass of the 10EE, hence my caution. Other ideas/suggestions are welcome!
?
TIA
?
Ron
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Re: For sale listings permitted?
Ok I put the DTS100K lever slide on the auction site, since it didn’t seem to generate a lot of interest here.
Animal did you get your box o’ miscellany?
?
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Re: FS parts and accessories
I can also be reached at brianpsherwood at gmail dot com
i dunno why ka9egw at ka9egw dot com is being uncooperative
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Re: FS parts and accessories
Al, I dunno why the email address is acting up...?
It's not a complete taper attachment, just the extended cross slide with slotted tail that is part of the complete taper attachment...witht he gib and screws and etc it's an AS485NK1, but this is just the casting.
I do also have a complete taper attachment I've never used, but the day after I let it get away I'll have a job come in that needs it, you know how that goes...
I can also be reached at brianpsherwood at gmail dot com
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Re: For sale listings permitted?
PLUSSSSSS Photos please
On 1/22/2025 3:46 PM, Andrei via
groups.io wrote:
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If you post for sale messages, make sure you provide: make,
model, item description, location, and price.?
FS is fine, make sure you add yer location .
animal
On 1/22/25 8:58 AM, Brian wrote:
Not having luck finding any policies/rules/guidelines,
can a moderator chime in please?
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Re: For sale listings permitted?
If you post for sale messages, make sure you provide: make, model, item description, location, and price.?
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From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of mike allen <animal@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 1:34 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] For sale listings permitted?
?
FS is fine, make sure you add yer location .
animal
On 1/22/25 8:58 AM, Brian wrote:
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Re: For sale listings permitted?
FS is fine, make sure you add yer location .
animal
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Brian, I tried a message direct to your email address, with subject matter as you requested, but it bounced. ?I’m interested in your SB10k taper attachment. ?Thanks, al.
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On Jan 22, 2025, at 10:07, Brian via < ka9egw@...> wrote:
Cleaning up the shop after 40 years of accumulating.? I'm close enough to retirement-driven downsizing it's time to look at this...and I'd rather take it to the scrapyard than deal with eBay.
?
All for a model 9/10K.
?
I have an extra taper attachment cross slide, an extra handlever cross slide with tool posts and wedges, a 6-position lever bed turret, a couple lantern tool posts with rockers, an extra compound, an extra tailstock, and a turret tool post with rockers, are the first things that come to mind.
?
If there is any interest, I can be reached at ka9egw@..., [and that email is a spam magnet so please put "SHOP CLEANUP" in the subject]. ?
Many thanks.? I'll be posting more over the next few weeks.
?
Regards,
-B
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Brian,
Where are you located?
Thanks and best of luck!
On Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 11:07:52 AM CST, Brian <ka9egw@...> wrote:
Cleaning up the shop after 40 years of accumulating.? I'm close enough to retirement-driven downsizing it's time to look at this...and I'd rather take it to the scrapyard than deal with eBay.
?
All for a model 9/10K.
?
I have an extra taper attachment cross slide, an extra handlever cross slide with tool posts and wedges, a 6-position lever bed turret, a couple lantern tool posts with rockers, an extra compound, an extra tailstock, and a turret tool post with rockers, are the first things that come to mind.
?
If there is any interest, I can be reached at ka9egw@..., [and that email is a spam magnet so please put "SHOP CLEANUP" in the subject]. ?
Many thanks.? I'll be posting more over the next few weeks.
?
Regards,
-B
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Cleaning up the shop after 40 years of accumulating.? I'm close enough to retirement-driven downsizing it's time to look at this...and I'd rather take it to the scrapyard than deal with eBay.
?
All for a model 9/10K.
?
I have an extra taper attachment cross slide, an extra handlever cross slide with tool posts and wedges, a 6-position lever bed turret, a couple lantern tool posts with rockers, an extra compound, an extra tailstock, and a turret tool post with rockers, are the first things that come to mind.
?
If there is any interest, I can be reached at ka9egw@..., [and that email is a spam magnet so please put "SHOP CLEANUP" in the subject]. ?
Many thanks.? I'll be posting more over the next few weeks.
?
Regards,
-B
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Re: For sale listings permitted?
OK I found hte info I wanted in the files section.
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For sale listings permitted?
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I think theres a guy here that has a Pultra Lathe , Payson I believe . If yer here please send me a PM
animal@...
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The backplate squeezing collet works very well and you can take normal cuts in each direction. Had this setup on a Emco Compact 8. I highly recommend it.?
You can implement it easily on a SB 9a. It is basically the same thread size (only not metric) as the Emco.
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From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Poore via groups.io <mpoore10@...>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2025 8:41:26 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] SB9 Reverse
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I think my belt would slip before this would unscrew. I will have to put this on the to do list. Thanks for the photos.
On 1/20/2025 8:32 AM, ww_big_al via groups.io wrote:
That looks like it will work for reverse. As long as you are not doing heavy/hard turning.
Al
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Here’s a ?better picture of the 4jaw
and the 3jaw
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I think my belt would slip before this would unscrew. I will have to
put this on the to do list. Thanks for the photos.
On 1/20/2025 8:32 AM, ww_big_al via
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That
looks like it will work for reverse. As long as you are not
doing heavy/hard turning.
Al
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Here’s a ?better picture of the 4jaw
and the 3jaw
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That looks like it will work for reverse. As long as you are not doing heavy/hard turning. Al ?
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From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Walker via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 5:08 PM
To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] SB9 Reverse? Here’s a ?better picture of the 4jaw 
and the 3jaw
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Here’s a ?better picture of the 4jaw
 and the 3jaw
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James Rice
eddie.draper@btinternet.com
ww_big_al