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Re: Ebay thread dial indicator

 

Do you have a print for the threading dial for the model? I have a 1913 model 134 and need a dial. Looking at your pics I think I could make that work.


On Tue, Jan 7, 2025, 2:52?PM Steven H via <stevesmachining=[email protected]> wrote:
The South Bend CE3458 Parts Manual from 1965-1966 shows that the same thread dial assembly is used on 13”, 14.5”, and 16” lathes. Here are photos of the manual pages pertaining to the thread dial.


Re: Ebay thread dial indicator

 

The South Bend CE3458 Parts Manual from 1965-1966 shows that the same thread dial assembly is used on 13”, 14.5”, and 16” lathes. Here are photos of the manual pages pertaining to the thread dial.


Re: Ebay thread dial indicator

 

> I assume you mean a modern 13" and not the model 34 circa 1922?
> If you mean the model 34, I have a model

I don't know the difference -- I was just looking around to see if I could find something that John Grump could have printed.

If you created the model you're using, would you consider sharing it? (and maybe putting it up on Thingverse, or a similar model repository if it isn't already?)

On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 7:24?AM DJ Delorie via <dj=[email protected]> wrote:
"Rogan Creswick via " <creswick=[email protected]> writes:
> I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading dial though...

I assume you mean a modern 13" and not the model 34 circa 1922?

If you mean the model 34, I have a model, but I had to drill my own
mounting hole:








Re: Ebay thread dial indicator

 

"Rogan Creswick via groups.io" <creswick@...> writes:
I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading dial though...
I assume you mean a modern 13" and not the model 34 circa 1922?

If you mean the model 34, I have a model, but I had to drill my own
mounting hole:


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Ted may even have on\et of these .? reach out to Latheman here .

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On Jan 6, 2025, at 9:11?PM, Mike Poore via groups.io <mpoore10@...> wrote:

? I did not know the price. You can find an original for that money. The print quality does not look very good.

On 1/6/2025 7:48 PM, Rogan Creswick via groups.io wrote:
I found a thread on practical machinist that seems to support the idea that one dial worked on a pretty wide range of lathes:? There are some folks in that thread who have made their own, although without any detail about how they got the gears...

I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading dial though... The 9/10" version could be adapted, but that's a bit of CAD work.

$100 seems like a lot for a (mostly) plastic part, but given that it has bearings, and they've done the troubleshooting, it's probably not a bad deal.

There is a metal threading dial for a 16" lathe up on ebay for about the same price, maybe that would?actually work?

--Rogan

On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 2:54?PM Mike Poore via <mpoore10=[email protected]> wrote:
Whether it fits or not assumes the seller made it correctly. As far as if the same part fits all of those listed machines, you could probably verify that yourself by looking at parts catalogs to see if the same part number is listed for each size lathe. It would make sense that some SB lathes would use the same part. You see that a lot in the 9's and 10's. Unfortunately, I do not have a direct answer.

On 1/6/2025 11:07 AM, johngrump@... via wrote:




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On Jan 6, 2025, at 9:11?PM, Mike Poore via groups.io <mpoore10@...> wrote:

? I did not know the price. You can find an original for that money. The print quality does not look very good.

On 1/6/2025 7:48 PM, Rogan Creswick via groups.io wrote:
I found a thread on practical machinist that seems to support the idea that one dial worked on a pretty wide range of lathes:? There are some folks in that thread who have made their own, although without any detail about how they got the gears...

I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading dial though... The 9/10" version could be adapted, but that's a bit of CAD work.

$100 seems like a lot for a (mostly) plastic part, but given that it has bearings, and they've done the troubleshooting, it's probably not a bad deal.

There is a metal threading dial for a 16" lathe up on ebay for about the same price, maybe that would?actually work?

--Rogan

On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 2:54?PM Mike Poore via <mpoore10=[email protected]> wrote:
Whether it fits or not assumes the seller made it correctly. As far as if the same part fits all of those listed machines, you could probably verify that yourself by looking at parts catalogs to see if the same part number is listed for each size lathe. It would make sense that some SB lathes would use the same part. You see that a lot in the 9's and 10's. Unfortunately, I do not have a direct answer.

On 1/6/2025 11:07 AM, johngrump@... via wrote:




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I did not know the price. You can find an original for that money. The print quality does not look very good.

On 1/6/2025 7:48 PM, Rogan Creswick via groups.io wrote:

I found a thread on practical machinist that seems to support the idea that one dial worked on a pretty wide range of lathes:? There are some folks in that thread who have made their own, although without any detail about how they got the gears...

I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading dial though... The 9/10" version could be adapted, but that's a bit of CAD work.

$100 seems like a lot for a (mostly) plastic part, but given that it has bearings, and they've done the troubleshooting, it's probably not a bad deal.

There is a metal threading dial for a 16" lathe up on ebay for about the same price, maybe that would?actually work?

--Rogan

On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 2:54?PM Mike Poore via <mpoore10=[email protected]> wrote:
Whether it fits or not assumes the seller made it correctly. As far as if the same part fits all of those listed machines, you could probably verify that yourself by looking at parts catalogs to see if the same part number is listed for each size lathe. It would make sense that some SB lathes would use the same part. You see that a lot in the 9's and 10's. Unfortunately, I do not have a direct answer.

On 1/6/2025 11:07 AM, johngrump@... via wrote:




Re: Ebay thread dial indicator

 

I found a thread on practical machinist that seems to support the idea that one dial worked on a pretty wide range of lathes:? There are some folks in that thread who have made their own, although without any detail about how they got the gears...

I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading dial though... The 9/10" version could be adapted, but that's a bit of CAD work.

$100 seems like a lot for a (mostly) plastic part, but given that it has bearings, and they've done the troubleshooting, it's probably not a bad deal.

There is a metal threading dial for a 16" lathe up on ebay for about the same price, maybe that would?actually work?

--Rogan

On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 2:54?PM Mike Poore via <mpoore10=[email protected]> wrote:
Whether it fits or not assumes the seller made it correctly. As far as if the same part fits all of those listed machines, you could probably verify that yourself by looking at parts catalogs to see if the same part number is listed for each size lathe. It would make sense that some SB lathes would use the same part. You see that a lot in the 9's and 10's. Unfortunately, I do not have a direct answer.

On 1/6/2025 11:07 AM, johngrump@... via wrote:



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Whether it fits or not assumes the seller made it correctly. As far as if the same part fits all of those listed machines, you could probably verify that yourself by looking at parts catalogs to see if the same part number is listed for each size lathe. It would make sense that some SB lathes would use the same part. You see that a lot in the 9's and 10's. Unfortunately, I do not have a direct answer.

On 1/6/2025 11:07 AM, johngrump@... via groups.io wrote:



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I should also add that I parted 4140 on my SB9A without any drama using this tool.

On 1/5/2025 5:29 PM, Mike Poore via groups.io wrote:

Mark,

l was the one the wrote about making a tool and the version I was going to make is similar to your Armstrong adaptation, which you said had problems.

Therefore, I did make a tool using your latest plans. (see pics below) Obviously, I can't follow directions. My goal was to make a parting tool without using a parting tool. One thing I did that might be useful is that I cut the blade groove .125" deep for the carbide blade shown in the pics. Thinner blades can be used with a shim under the retainer. I have 3 different thicknesses of blades so I wanted a way to use all of them. I am thinking about adding some marks to indicate the blade angle so that it does not need a gage to change angles.





On 1/4/2025 12:45 PM, Mark via groups.io wrote:
On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 09:12 AM, John Byghtn3 wrote:
I am a loyal watcher and subscriber. You do a good job with unique projects that are interesting to watch. I saw your belt video. The price you are asking is very reasonable. I am working on a simplified version of the parting tool in your recent video. I will post a picture of it when done.

Thanks John! I'd love to see the finished tool.



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Mark,

l was the one the wrote about making a tool and the version I was going to make is similar to your Armstrong adaptation, which you said had problems.

Therefore, I did make a tool using your latest plans. (see pics below) Obviously, I can't follow directions. My goal was to make a parting tool without using a parting tool. One thing I did that might be useful is that I cut the blade groove .125" deep for the carbide blade shown in the pics. Thinner blades can be used with a shim under the retainer. I have 3 different thicknesses of blades so I wanted a way to use all of them. I am thinking about adding some marks to indicate the blade angle so that it does not need a gage to change angles.





On 1/4/2025 12:45 PM, Mark via groups.io wrote:

On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 09:12 AM, John Byghtn3 wrote:
I am a loyal watcher and subscriber. You do a good job with unique projects that are interesting to watch. I saw your belt video. The price you are asking is very reasonable. I am working on a simplified version of the parting tool in your recent video. I will post a picture of it when done.

Thanks John! I'd love to see the finished tool.


Re: Ebay thread dial indicator

 

That Bambu a1 Mini is pretty remarkable, especially at $200. Thanks for the post. Your threading indicator is first class.

My history with 3D printing goes back to the early '90s, shortly after 3D Systems introduced the technology at $250k per machine. Jumped back in with a $2k machine three years ago that also had a laser head for engraving/cutting. Material choices with it were limited, and surface finish was nothing like the Bambu! (Commercial production machines still go for multiples of $100k, of course.)

Viva innovation!!

David


On Sunday, January 5, 2025 at 01:05:44 PM EST, Rogan Creswick via groups.io <creswick@...> wrote:


I'd trust the listing for that, although that's certainly a wide range of lathe sizes for one item.? If you can share the link we can take a look.? You can probably get it cheaper if you find the model and have a service like shapeways print it and mail it to you, but it may not be a big difference in price.

You can also buy a perfectly nice 3d printer for around $150-200 these days, so consider that the part might be a significant fraction of the cost of a plug-and-play printer (e.g. a Bambu a1 mini)

I use a 3d printed threading dial on my 10k and it works great! I had a friend print the body and gear at 100% infill, then I turned a brass dial and press-fit that on a shaft.? I sanded the plastic parts, primed, and painted so it matches my lathe.? You can see the finished version here:
?

--Rogan


On Sun, Jan 5, 2025 at 9:49?AM johngrump@... via <johngrump=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello all.? Have been following for some time.? This is my first post.? There is a 3-D printed thread dial indicator on Ebay.? I have a SB-13.? Will this fit my lathe?? The add says it fits a 13, 14 1/2, 16 and 24". It looks like it is plastic.? What do you experts think?? Thank you.


Re: Ebay thread dial indicator

 

I'd trust the listing for that, although that's certainly a wide range of lathe sizes for one item.? If you can share the link we can take a look.? You can probably get it cheaper if you find the model and have a service like shapeways print it and mail it to you, but it may not be a big difference in price.

You can also buy a perfectly nice 3d printer for around $150-200 these days, so consider that the part might be a significant fraction of the cost of a plug-and-play printer (e.g. a Bambu a1 mini)

I use a 3d printed threading dial on my 10k and it works great! I had a friend print the body and gear at 100% infill, then I turned a brass dial and press-fit that on a shaft.? I sanded the plastic parts, primed, and painted so it matches my lathe.? You can see the finished version here:
?

--Rogan


On Sun, Jan 5, 2025 at 9:49?AM johngrump@... via <johngrump=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello all.? Have been following for some time.? This is my first post.? There is a 3-D printed thread dial indicator on Ebay.? I have a SB-13.? Will this fit my lathe?? The add says it fits a 13, 14 1/2, 16 and 24". It looks like it is plastic.? What do you experts think?? Thank you.


Ebay thread dial indicator

 

Hello all. ?Have been following for some time. ?This is my first post. ?There is a 3-D printed thread dial indicator on Ebay. ?I have a SB-13. ?Will this fit my lathe? ?The add says it fits a 13, 14 1/2, 16 and 24". It looks like it is plastic. ?What do you experts think? ?Thank you.


Re: Automotive flat belts for lathes

 

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CXA HOLDER

4.25”

Thanks,

Rick

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 4:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Automotive flat belts for lathes

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On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 01:53 PM, Don Verdiani wrote:

So you knew someone would ask about a BXA version for a Heavy 10, right?


I made a couple BXA and sent them to a couple friends but neither have tested them yet. They will work but I wanted to make absolutely certain the bolt holes line up with a BXA holder.? I can get the AXA holders for $10 and will sell them with the tool but the BXA and CXA will be sold without the holder.?

In case you couldn't tell from the pictures the cut off tool mounts to a standard holder. All the tools will be sold with the blades. I just haven't decided on a price. I struggle with pricing. I tend to pay myself starvation wages. I like to give people a good deal but I have to be careful to cover my own time and materials as well.?

I'll post to the group when I make them available and also send you an email.?

BXA holders are sold in two sizes. Measure your holder front to back and let me know which. I think it will be 325" or 3.50".


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On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 09:56 AM, Don Verdiani wrote:

I just checked and my BXA holders are all over the place. I have a couple that measure 3” front to back, and a bunch at 3.5” approximately. Different suppliers, Aloris, Phase II, unknown Chinese, whatever.

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Still interested. I went back into the thread. Are there video’s of this thing someplace?


Yeah I was going to sell a tool that bolted to the top of a holder and decided to by holders and sell them with the tools. Too many variations of the BXA? ?to keep up with but the dovetails are all the same.?

Yes, there have been 3 videos on this tool but the last and best version is in this video. There is also a link to the plans in the description.

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Re: Automotive flat belts for lathes

 

On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 09:12 AM, John Byghtn3 wrote:
I am a loyal watcher and subscriber. You do a good job with unique projects that are interesting to watch. I saw your belt video. The price you are asking is very reasonable. I am working on a simplified version of the parting tool in your recent video. I will post a picture of it when done.

Thanks John! I'd love to see the finished tool.


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Mark,

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I just checked and my BXA holders are all over the place. I have a couple that measure 3” front to back, and a bunch at 3.5” approximately. Different suppliers, Aloris, Phase II, unknown Chinese, whatever.

?

Still interested. I went back into the thread. Are there video’s of this thing someplace?

?

Don Verdiani

Westtown, PA

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 4:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Automotive flat belts for lathes

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On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 01:53 PM, Don Verdiani wrote:

So you knew someone would ask about a BXA version for a Heavy 10, right?


I made a couple BXA and sent them to a couple friends but neither have tested them yet. They will work but I wanted to make absolutely certain the bolt holes line up with a BXA holder.? I can get the AXA holders for $10 and will sell them with the tool but the BXA and CXA will be sold without the holder.?

In case you couldn't tell from the pictures the cut off tool mounts to a standard holder. All the tools will be sold with the blades. I just haven't decided on a price. I struggle with pricing. I tend to pay myself starvation wages. I like to give people a good deal but I have to be careful to cover my own time and materials as well.?

I'll post to the group when I make them available and also send you an email.?

BXA holders are sold in two sizes. Measure your holder front to back and let me know which. I think it will be 3.25" or 3.50".


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On 12/30/2024 10:29 AM, Mark via groups.io wrote:
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 12:00 AM, Mike Poore wrote:
I am a loyal watcher and subscriber. You do a good job with unique projects that are interesting to watch. I saw your belt video. The price you are asking is very reasonable. I am working on a simplified version of the parting tool in your recent video. I will post a picture of it when done.

Thanks Mike, the parting tool works very well. I've actually made five designs variation over the years. I think I finally perfected the design. As long as the feed rate is right (about .001" to .002" per revolution) and you give the blade a constant supply of oil it seems pretty much fool proof. Even the speed is very forgiving, as long as the SFPM is correct or slightly slower than spec for HSS. I just made 10 of them. I plan on selling them complete with the AXA Holder, Blade and a Needle Oiler. I sent one to Quinn Durkin (Blondiehacks) and she love it. She said it has become her go to parting tool. Can't beat that for a positive review. Not sure on a price yet. The AXA tool holder and blade add up to $35+ and the steel and bolts all add up quickly. It took me about 20 hours to make 10 although if I make more I'm sure that can be reduced. I want to keep the cost reasonable but also cover my time and expenses.

Mark,

Can this be resized to 0XA size?

Thanks for all you do and try to show us how to do for ourselves..

John