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There are a lot of YouTube videos on converting those to vertical BS. Some good. Some bad.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf
Of mike allen
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2025 11:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Porta Band Stand
Hey folks , I have this old Milwaukee porta band that has ben hanging out
since i retired . It's a lot heavier that I remember them being .
Have any of you come up with a bench or even a free standing setup that will
let ya use a porta band like a cut off saw . I'm looking for ideas, pics , things
that didn't work .
thanks
animal
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Proud of it, aren't they??
Try searching at: https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/search.php?searchid=4727145
I bought the Hercules stand at HF, and they're on sale IIRC. Does both vertical & horizontal for only a bit more. Haven't gotten to set mine up, yet, but it looks pretty good. It is absolutely not as simple as the one in your link. Which would be much easier to store. Should be pretty easy to make one like it, too.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, January 7, 2025 at 11:12:00 PM CST, Andrei via groups.io <calciu1@...> wrote:
Hey folks , I have this old Milwaukee porta band that has ben hanging
out since i retired . It's a lot heavier that I remember them being .
Have any of you come up with a bench or even a free standing setup that
will let ya use a porta band like a cut off saw . I'm looking for ideas,
pics , things that didn't work .
thanks
animal
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Hey folks , I have this old Milwaukee porta band that has ben hanging
out since i retired . It's a lot heavier that I remember them being .
Have any of you come up with a bench or even a free standing setup that
will let ya use a porta band like a cut off saw . I'm looking for ideas,
pics , things that didn't work .
thanks
animal
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Hey folks , I have this old Milwaukee porta band that has ben hanging out since i retired . It's a lot heavier that I remember them being . Have any of you come up with a bench or even a free standing setup that will let ya use a porta band like a cut off saw . I'm looking for ideas, pics , things that didn't work .
thanks
animal
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Re: Ebay thread dial indicator
"DJ Delorie via groups.io" <dj@...> writes: If you mean the model 34, I have a model, but I had to drill my own
mounting hole: I put what I had online:
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Re: Ebay thread dial indicator
Do you have a print for the threading dial for the model? I have a 1913 model 134 and need a dial. Looking at your pics I think I could make that work.
The South Bend CE3458 Parts Manual from 1965-1966 shows that the same thread dial assembly is used on 13”, 14.5”, and 16” lathes. Here are photos of the manual pages pertaining to the thread dial.  
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Re: Ebay thread dial indicator
The South Bend CE3458 Parts Manual from 1965-1966 shows that the same thread dial assembly is used on 13”, 14.5”, and 16” lathes. Here are photos of the manual pages pertaining to the thread dial.  
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> I assume you mean a modern 13" and not the model 34 circa 1922? > If you mean the model 34, I have a model
I don't know the difference -- I was just looking around to see if I could find something that John Grump could have printed.
If you created the model you're using, would you consider sharing it? (and maybe putting it up on Thingverse, or a similar model repository if it isn't already?)
"Rogan Creswick via " <creswick=[email protected]> writes:
> I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading dial though...
I assume you mean a modern 13" and not the model 34 circa 1922?
If you mean the model 34, I have a model, but I had to drill my own
mounting hole:
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Re: Ebay thread dial indicator
"Rogan Creswick via groups.io" <creswick@...> writes: I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading dial though... I assume you mean a modern 13" and not the model 34 circa 1922? If you mean the model 34, I have a model, but I had to drill my own mounting hole:
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Ted may even have on\et of these .? reach out to Latheman here .
animal
On 1/6/25 6:25 PM, Ron Belau via
groups.io wrote:
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On Jan 6, 2025, at 9:11?PM, Mike Poore
via groups.io <mpoore10@...> wrote:
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I did not know the price. You can find an original for that
money. The print quality does not look very good.
On 1/6/2025 7:48 PM, Rogan
Creswick via groups.io wrote:
I found a thread on practical machinist that
seems to support the idea that one dial worked on a pretty
wide range of lathes:?
There are some folks in that thread who have made their
own, although without any detail about how they got the
gears...
I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading
dial though... The 9/10" version could be adapted, but
that's a bit of CAD work.
$100 seems like a lot for a (mostly) plastic part,
but given that it has bearings, and they've done the
troubleshooting, it's probably not a bad deal.
There is a metal threading dial for a 16" lathe up on
ebay for about the same price, maybe that would?actually
work?
--Rogan
Whether it fits or not assumes the seller made it
correctly. As far as if the same part fits all of
those listed machines, you could probably verify that
yourself by looking at parts catalogs to see if the
same part number is listed for each size lathe. It
would make sense that some SB lathes would use the
same part. You see that a lot in the 9's and 10's.
Unfortunately, I do not have a direct answer.
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On Jan 6, 2025, at 9:11?PM, Mike Poore via groups.io <mpoore10@...> wrote:
?
I did not know the price. You can find an original for that money.
The print quality does not look very good.
On 1/6/2025 7:48 PM, Rogan Creswick via
groups.io wrote:
I found a thread on practical machinist that seems
to support the idea that one dial worked on a pretty wide range
of lathes:?
There are some folks in that thread who have made their own,
although without any detail about how they got the gears...
I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading dial
though... The 9/10" version could be adapted, but that's a bit
of CAD work.
$100 seems like a lot for a (mostly) plastic part, but
given that it has bearings, and they've done the
troubleshooting, it's probably not a bad deal.
There is a metal threading dial for a 16" lathe up on ebay
for about the same price, maybe that would?actually work?
--Rogan
Whether it fits or not assumes the seller made it
correctly. As far as if the same part fits all of those
listed machines, you could probably verify that yourself by
looking at parts catalogs to see if the same part number is
listed for each size lathe. It would make sense that some SB
lathes would use the same part. You see that a lot in the
9's and 10's. Unfortunately, I do not have a direct answer.
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I did not know the price. You can find an original for that money.
The print quality does not look very good.
On 1/6/2025 7:48 PM, Rogan Creswick via
groups.io wrote:
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I found a thread on practical machinist that seems
to support the idea that one dial worked on a pretty wide range
of lathes:?
There are some folks in that thread who have made their own,
although without any detail about how they got the gears...
I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading dial
though... The 9/10" version could be adapted, but that's a bit
of CAD work.
$100 seems like a lot for a (mostly) plastic part, but
given that it has bearings, and they've done the
troubleshooting, it's probably not a bad deal.
There is a metal threading dial for a 16" lathe up on ebay
for about the same price, maybe that would?actually work?
--Rogan
Whether it fits or not assumes the seller made it
correctly. As far as if the same part fits all of those
listed machines, you could probably verify that yourself by
looking at parts catalogs to see if the same part number is
listed for each size lathe. It would make sense that some SB
lathes would use the same part. You see that a lot in the
9's and 10's. Unfortunately, I do not have a direct answer.
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Re: Ebay thread dial indicator
I found a thread on practical machinist that seems to support the idea that one dial worked on a pretty wide range of lathes:? There are some folks in that thread who have made their own, although without any detail about how they got the gears...
I have *not* found a 3d model for the 13" threading dial though... The 9/10" version could be adapted, but that's a bit of CAD work.
$100 seems like a lot for a (mostly) plastic part, but given that it has bearings, and they've done the troubleshooting, it's probably not a bad deal.
There is a metal threading dial for a 16" lathe up on ebay for about the same price, maybe that would?actually work?
--Rogan
Whether it fits or not assumes the seller made it correctly. As far
as if the same part fits all of those listed machines, you could
probably verify that yourself by looking at parts catalogs to see if
the same part number is listed for each size lathe. It would make
sense that some SB lathes would use the same part. You see that a
lot in the 9's and 10's. Unfortunately, I do not have a direct
answer.
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Re: Ebay thread dial indicator
Whether it fits or not assumes the seller made it correctly. As far
as if the same part fits all of those listed machines, you could
probably verify that yourself by looking at parts catalogs to see if
the same part number is listed for each size lathe. It would make
sense that some SB lathes would use the same part. You see that a
lot in the 9's and 10's. Unfortunately, I do not have a direct
answer.
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I should also add that I parted 4140 on my SB9A without any drama
using this tool.
On 1/5/2025 5:29 PM, Mike Poore via
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Mark,
l was the one the wrote about making a tool and the version I was
going to make is similar to your Armstrong adaptation, which you
said had problems.
Therefore, I did make a tool using your latest plans. (see pics
below) Obviously, I can't follow directions. My goal was to make a
parting tool without using a parting tool. One thing I did that
might be useful is that I cut the blade groove .125" deep for the
carbide blade shown in the pics. Thinner blades can be used with a
shim under the retainer. I have 3 different thicknesses of blades
so I wanted a way to use all of them. I am thinking about adding
some marks to indicate the blade angle so that it does not need a
gage to change angles.
On 1/4/2025 12:45 PM, Mark via
groups.io wrote:
On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 09:12 AM, John Byghtn3 wrote:
I am a loyal watcher and subscriber. You do a good
job with unique projects that are interesting to watch. I
saw your belt video. The price you are asking is very
reasonable. I am working on a simplified version of the
parting tool in your recent video. I will post a picture of
it when done.
Thanks John! I'd love to see the finished tool.
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Mark,
l was the one the wrote about making a tool and the version I was
going to make is similar to your Armstrong adaptation, which you
said had problems.
Therefore, I did make a tool using your latest plans. (see pics
below) Obviously, I can't follow directions. My goal was to make a
parting tool without using a parting tool. One thing I did that
might be useful is that I cut the blade groove .125" deep for the
carbide blade shown in the pics. Thinner blades can be used with a
shim under the retainer. I have 3 different thicknesses of blades so
I wanted a way to use all of them. I am thinking about adding some
marks to indicate the blade angle so that it does not need a gage to
change angles.
On 1/4/2025 12:45 PM, Mark via
groups.io wrote:
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On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 09:12 AM, John Byghtn3 wrote:
I am a loyal watcher and subscriber. You do a good
job with unique projects that are interesting to watch. I saw
your belt video. The price you are asking is very reasonable.
I am working on a simplified version of the parting tool in
your recent video. I will post a picture of it when done.
Thanks John! I'd love to see the finished tool.
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Re: Ebay thread dial indicator
That Bambu a1 Mini is pretty remarkable, especially at $200. Thanks for the post. Your threading indicator is first class.
My history with 3D printing goes back to the early '90s, shortly after 3D Systems introduced the technology at $250k per machine. Jumped back in with a $2k machine three years ago that also had a laser head for engraving/cutting. Material choices with it were limited, and surface finish was nothing like the Bambu! (Commercial production machines still go for multiples of $100k, of course.)
Viva innovation!!
On Sunday, January 5, 2025 at 01:05:44 PM EST, Rogan Creswick via groups.io <creswick@...> wrote:
I'd trust the listing for that, although that's certainly a wide range of lathe sizes for one item.? If you can share the link we can take a look.? You can probably get it cheaper if you find the model and have a service like shapeways print it and mail it to you, but it may not be a big difference in price.
You can also buy a perfectly nice 3d printer for around $150-200 these days, so consider that the part might be a significant fraction of the cost of a plug-and-play printer (e.g. a Bambu a1 mini)
I use a 3d printed threading dial on my 10k and it works great! I had a friend print the body and gear at 100% infill, then I turned a brass dial and press-fit that on a shaft.? I sanded the plastic parts, primed, and painted so it matches my lathe.? You can see the finished version here: ?
--Rogan
Hello all.? Have been following for some time.? This is my first post.? There is a 3-D printed thread dial indicator on Ebay.? I have a SB-13.? Will this fit my lathe?? The add says it fits a 13, 14 1/2, 16 and 24". It looks like it is plastic.? What do you experts think?? Thank you.
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I'd trust the listing for that, although that's certainly a wide range of lathe sizes for one item.? If you can share the link we can take a look.? You can probably get it cheaper if you find the model and have a service like shapeways print it and mail it to you, but it may not be a big difference in price.
You can also buy a perfectly nice 3d printer for around $150-200 these days, so consider that the part might be a significant fraction of the cost of a plug-and-play printer (e.g. a Bambu a1 mini)
I use a 3d printed threading dial on my 10k and it works great! I had a friend print the body and gear at 100% infill, then I turned a brass dial and press-fit that on a shaft.? I sanded the plastic parts, primed, and painted so it matches my lathe.? You can see the finished version here: ?
--Rogan
Hello all.? Have been following for some time.? This is my first post.? There is a 3-D printed thread dial indicator on Ebay.? I have a SB-13.? Will this fit my lathe?? The add says it fits a 13, 14 1/2, 16 and 24". It looks like it is plastic.? What do you experts think?? Thank you.
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