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I've been re-reading them, and I've come to a very interesting realisation:? Ginny isn't really all that likeable until after the stupid mistake in Spiritus.? (It's amazing the things you realise as you reread a story.? The things you don't really note the first time through.)
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She reminds me a lot of Cenedra in the Belgariad.? She's not the spoiled brat that Cenedra was, but she has her moments.? Bat Bogeys for Harry being in the same room as her?? Her double standard was something else that got to me.? When the Teen Witch Weekly came out with that article, she publicly claimed Harry as hers, but when Harry defends her and her family and claims her as his, she goes up one side of him and down the other.? Make up your mind, girl!
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I think what really bothered me about both stories (and I'm pretty sure you've read a different version of this over on Abraxan's list) is the way that relationship changing things happened in both of your stories, and they were completely dealt with in the very same chapter.? Once she apologised to him in DA, everything was fine for them - no echoes of hurt later in the story (admittedly, there was only that chapter and the Epilogue), but there was no sign of it in SC.? Then she breaks the engagement, and in that same chapter, DD whips out his wand and solves the problem for them.? Other than to give Ginny the chance to grow up a little, there was no real need for that to have happened.
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For that matter, Harry and Ginny forgave the Weasley brothers awfully fast for that "prank" that they pulled in SC.? Given his self esteem issues, that should have been hitting him in that chapter and for chapters to come, because I could very easily see Harry coming to the conclusion that since they were fighting so hard to keep him from proposing, that the Weasley boys didn't want him as a family member.? And to be honest, he should have been finding ways to prevent Ron and Hermione from being together, at least for a little while.? The prank wouldn't necessarily have driven it home, but being on the receiving end of what he did to them would certainly have made the point.
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I realise that this may come across as a flame, and that certainly isn't the intention I had.? All of us are growing as writers, and sometimes we need an outside view.? I enjoy the stories immensely (have them on my PDA in MobiPocket format, in fact) and love to reread them.
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Hell, the fact that I am bothered by certain things to this level tells me how good you are - if you weren't good, I wouldn't care about the way that the characters act.
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Keith


 

--- In snorkack@..., "Keith McComb" <kinsfire@g...> wrote:
I realise that this may come across as a flame, and that certainly
isn't the intention I had. All of us are growing as writers, and
sometimes we need an outside view. I enjoy the stories immensely
(have them on my PDA in MobiPocket format, in fact) and love to
reread them.

Hell, the fact that I am bothered by certain things to this level
tells me how good you are - if you weren't good, I wouldn't care
about the way that the characters act.

Keith
As you say, we're all learning to an extent. I see Dumbledore's Army
and cringe reading it now, Spiritus Crystalus is an improvement, but
only slightly so. In writing those fics I was too fixated on the
concept of a chapter equaling one month of story time. Which in
retrospect was probably a mistake.

In DA we went from Kings Cross (End of 5th year) to back at Hogwarts
in exactly two chapters. I don't think I could do that anymore.
Sunset took four chapters to get to the express, then the very first
day at Hogwarts took a chapter all to itself.

Does this mean I'm planning on going back and revisiting DA and SC
for major rewrites? Heh... nope not really. Compared to Sunset they
ok fics in my book. But I'm not about to stop what I'm doing to
rewrite them.

As far as Ginny was concerned, then yeah, she wasn't all that nice.
She treated Harry like her own personal toy for quite a while, and
she had some serious growing up to do. Harry's lack of experience is
part of the reason why he didn't kick her ass to the curb and find
himself a girl that would shag him senseless and not mistreat him. He
didn't know any better, but like Ginny, he needed time to grow and
was willing (at least in our fic) to give Ginny the chance to grow. I
suppose I could have made her grow up quicker, but most of DA was
about Harry learning to deal with the damage left over by the
dursleys. I didn't really start working on Ginny and her problems til
the end of year 6.

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably be the last Harry Potter
fics unless I come up with a really good plot bunny. Its all
learning. :)

- Bob


 

One other thing comes to mind. It took more than Dumbledore's spell to
get through to Ginny. It took her learning to be a legilmens. DD's
action was more to break through to Harry in his fugue state.

- Bob


 

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably be the last Harry Potter
fics unless I come up with a really good plot bunny. Its all
learning. :)

- Bob
Then we do have to hope you stumble upon a nice good plot bunny, don't
we? of course, if you want ideas...


 

--- In snorkack@..., "totorivers" <Tom.Beauvais@g...> wrote:

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably be the last Harry
Potter
fics unless I come up with a really good plot bunny. Its all
learning. :)

- Bob
Then we do have to hope you stumble upon a nice good plot bunny,
don't
we? of course, if you want ideas...
And here I was hoping for another 6th and 7th year set of stories with
Tracy Davis or Daphne Greengrass as the romantic interest -- uniting
Gryffindor and Slytherin and eventually getting the whole school on
board.

sean


 

--- In snorkack@..., "bobmi357" <submitaccount@y...> wrote:
Sunset and its planned sequel will probably be the last Harry Potter
fics unless I come up with a really good plot bunny. Its all
learning. :)

- Bob
*looking at increasing number of bunnies in bunny hutch* I have
plenty. I'd be more than willing to share ...

Dorothy


CRS
 

--- spd3432us <spd3432@...> wrote:

--- In snorkack@..., "totorivers"
<Tom.Beauvais@g...> wrote:

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably be
the last Harry
Potter
fics unless I come up with a really good plot
bunny. Its all
learning. :)

- Bob
Then we do have to hope you stumble upon a nice
good plot bunny,
don't
we? of course, if you want ideas...
And here I was hoping for another 6th and 7th year
set of stories with
Tracy Davis or Daphne Greengrass as the romantic
interest -- uniting
Gryffindor and Slytherin and eventually getting the
whole school on
board.

sean
Hmmm.... you could try writing a Harry/female
Slytherin, with a draker Harry, but still on the side
of the light. Maybe corrupt Dumbledore to the point of
joinind V...

-Crs



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--- In snorkack@..., CRS <malko050987@y...> wrote:


--- spd3432us <spd3432@h...> wrote:

--- In snorkack@..., "totorivers"
<Tom.Beauvais@g...> wrote:

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably be
the last Harry
Potter
fics unless I come up with a really good plot
bunny. Its all
learning. :)

- Bob
Then we do have to hope you stumble upon a nice
good plot bunny,
don't
we? of course, if you want ideas...
And here I was hoping for another 6th and 7th year
set of stories with
Tracy Davis or Daphne Greengrass as the romantic
interest -- uniting
Gryffindor and Slytherin and eventually getting the
whole school on
board.

sean
Hmmm.... you could try writing a Harry/female
Slytherin, with a draker Harry, but still on the side
of the light. Maybe corrupt Dumbledore to the point of
joinind V...

-Crs
Now this has me somewhat confused.

Bad Dumbledore.... check
Darker than canon Harry.... check

The only thing missing is hooking Harry up with a Slytherin. Hell we
redeemed draco, what more could anyone ask for? I can't tell you how
much my fingers itch to have an asteroid drop on his head. :D

- Bob


CRS
 

--- bobmi357 <submitaccount@...> wrote:

--- In snorkack@..., CRS
<malko050987@y...> wrote:


--- spd3432us <spd3432@h...> wrote:

--- In snorkack@..., "totorivers"
<Tom.Beauvais@g...> wrote:

Sunset and its planned sequel will probably
be
the last Harry
Potter
fics unless I come up with a really good
plot
bunny. Its all
learning. :)

- Bob
Then we do have to hope you stumble upon a
nice
good plot bunny,
don't
we? of course, if you want ideas...
And here I was hoping for another 6th and 7th
year
set of stories with
Tracy Davis or Daphne Greengrass as the romantic
interest -- uniting
Gryffindor and Slytherin and eventually getting
the
whole school on
board.

sean
Hmmm.... you could try writing a Harry/female
Slytherin, with a draker Harry, but still on the
side
of the light. Maybe corrupt Dumbledore to the
point of
joinind V...

-Crs
Now this has me somewhat confused.

Bad Dumbledore.... check
Darker than canon Harry.... check

The only thing missing is hooking Harry up with a
Slytherin. Hell we
redeemed draco, what more could anyone ask for? I
can't tell you how
much my fingers itch to have an asteroid drop on his
head. :D

- Bob
I meant a Dark dumbledore, as in using the dark arts,
siding with Tom....

And by dark Harry, i meant that you should use his
hate, his pain and his anger, and motivate him through
that. Also, I'd expect this Harry to die at the end.

-crs

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