Re: Box on Steering Quadrant #sabre34MkII

Phil,

is it possible to get photos of your handy work? Is the 34I and 34II the same in this respect?

The wood covering on Eventide is mostly apart and I’d like to rebuild it to allow storage without interfering with the quadrant.?
Thank you for any further insight.?
Michael

S/v Eventide

S34 #237

Re: Coach sides core material.

#103903

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I would make it back the same width so that the ports install correctly. ?You can epoxy and close that back to the original gap with clamps.?

Stephanie

Arista, S36 #67, Lake Ontario?

Shburgess1207@...?

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On Jun 2, 2025, at 07:05, Jim 1980 S30, via groups.io <Lake.jim.hsl@...> wrote:

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Could I use epoxied wood or cusa board around the ports? I have to maintain the proper size gap, the filler on my boat ports is loose and falling out as well the liner has distorted a bit making the gap larger than it should be. See pics

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Jim Lake
1980 Sabre 30
Halifax NS

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Stephanie
Moderator

Sabre 36, #67
Formerly Sabre 28-2, #289
Wilson Harbor, NY Lake Ontario

Re: extensive cabin flooding while on the hard

#103902

+1 on the garboard drain, once your process with the yard is resolved. I did this on my 38-II and wish I'd done it years earlier.?

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Cordially,

Carter Brey

Tartan 40 Lyra

Ex S38-II Atlantea

Re: extensive cabin flooding while on the hard

#103901

That’s easy.? The biodegradable plywood mast step box!

Jim Starkey

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On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 6:32?AM Jim 1980 S30, via <Lake.jim.hsl=[email protected]> wrote:

Ok. Now I need to know what the number 1 PITA is,

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Jim Lake
1980 Sabre 30
Halifax NS

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Jim Starkey

Shearwater

SW42, earlier S36

Manchester, Mass

Re: Box on Steering Quadrant #sabre34MkII

#103900

I took it one step further & epoxied stainless studs into the side panels,

then used wing nuts to hold it all together.

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Phil Horn
S34 #67
Huntington, LI, NY

Re: Coach sides core material.

#103899

Could I use epoxied wood or cusa board around the ports? I have to maintain the proper size gap, the filler on my boat ports is loose and falling out as well the liner has distorted a bit making the gap larger than it should be. See pics

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Jim Lake
1980 Sabre 30
Halifax NS

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Re: extensive cabin flooding while on the hard

#103898

Ok. Now I need to know what the number 1 PITA is,

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Jim Lake
1980 Sabre 30
Halifax NS

Re: extensive cabin flooding while on the hard

#103897

Thank you .? What I failed to mention was that the cockpit seacock was in the closed position .??

Re: Box on Steering Quadrant #sabre34MkII

#103896

That is an outstanding idea!? Tired of those screws.?

Dave Castor

Port Angeles, Wash

1986 S32

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On Sun, Jun 1, 2025 at 9:56?AM Jim Starkey via <Jim=[email protected]> wrote:

You need to take it apart.

I rebuilt mine with T-nuts (look them up).? It make assembly and disassembly much easier

On 6/1/2025 10:36 AM, Rob Craig via wrote:

Is the wooden box covering the steering quadrant on a 34 mkII supposed to come out without disassembly?? I can move it around but can't quite seem to get it out of the way of one or the other bulkhead to remove it from the lazarette.? Probably a stupid question, but it turns out I'm terrible with puzzles...

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Rob Craig
Sabre 34-2 #286 "Grace"
Tred Avon River
Easton, MD

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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC

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Jim Starkey

Shearwater

SW42, earlier S36

Manchester, Mass

Re: Westebeke oil filters for sale

#103895

OK? Send me mailing address and directly email address.

On Saturday, May 31, 2025 at 10:44:20 PM EDT, Tim Dokken via groups.io <timdokken@...> wrote:

Jim -

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If they are still available, I will buy the filters, let me know the total cost including shipping. ?Thanks!

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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI

Re: extensive cabin flooding while on the hard

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Most Sabres have a plastic elbow under the quarter decks.? Over time, cracks develop, water gets in and freezes, and the elbow splits, after which every drop of water that hits the deck will pour into the boat.? You can't inspect it and if it lets go, on 34s and 36s part of the overhead molding need to be cut away to get at it.? It's the number 2 Sabre PITA.

It's not your boat yard's fault.? It could have happened in a single heavy rain.

When it happened to me, I had a couple of self-inflating harnesses stored in the bottom step of the companionway steps.? The good news is that the steps are easy to rebuild.

This is why everyone should install a garboard drain!

On 6/1/2025 12:24 PM, Gary Weiser via groups.io wrote:

Hi.? I had ored my sabre 32 on the hard over the past 7 months and was preparing to launch this week.? I had seen the boat a few months ago and noted some water in the bilge.? ?the boat was shrink wrapped.? I mentioned this to the management

team.? ?Today I went to the boat and there was at least 6 inches of water in the cabin. and below the engine .? ?I suspect potential damage to the engine, wiring , wood work and maybe other components.? ?The boat yard was supposed to maintain the boat and did various things to upkeep it.? ?So at this point, I will consult my insurance company and get in contact with the yard to make this right.? Has anyone had a similar experience and I would be interested in advice .? ?

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Thank you?

Gary Weiser?

Sabre 32?

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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC

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Jim Starkey

Shearwater

SW42, earlier S36

Manchester, Mass

Re: Box on Steering Quadrant #sabre34MkII

#103893

Ok, thanks very much for the help.? So "some disassembly required."? Jim, I figured there was a better way to approach this rather than they way it's currently held together.

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I'm trying to decide how/when to do some serious steering system maintenance.? Mainly just preventive.

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Thanks again for the help!

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Rob Craig
Sabre 34-2 #286 "Grace"
Tred Avon River
Easton, MD

Re: Box on Steering Quadrant #sabre34MkII

#103892

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You need to take it apart.

I rebuilt mine with T-nuts (look them up).? It make assembly and disassembly much easier

On 6/1/2025 10:36 AM, Rob Craig via groups.io wrote:

Is the wooden box covering the steering quadrant on a 34 mkII supposed to come out without disassembly?? I can move it around but can't quite seem to get it out of the way of one or the other bulkhead to remove it from the lazarette.? Probably a stupid question, but it turns out I'm terrible with puzzles...

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Rob Craig
Sabre 34-2 #286 "Grace"
Tred Avon River
Easton, MD

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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC

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Jim Starkey

Shearwater

SW42, earlier S36

Manchester, Mass

extensive cabin flooding while on the hard

#103891

Hi.? I had ored my sabre 32 on the hard over the past 7 months and was preparing to launch this week.? I had seen the boat a few months ago and noted some water in the bilge.? ?the boat was shrink wrapped.? I mentioned this to the management

team.? ?Today I went to the boat and there was at least 6 inches of water in the cabin. and below the engine .? ?I suspect potential damage to the engine, wiring , wood work and maybe other components.? ?The boat yard was supposed to maintain the boat and did various things to upkeep it.? ?So at this point, I will consult my insurance company and get in contact with the yard to make this right.? Has anyone had a similar experience and I would be interested in advice .? ?

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Thank you?

Gary Weiser?

Sabre 32?

Re: Box on Steering Quadrant #sabre34MkII

#103890

You should be able remove the plywood side panels, then it will lift out. It is a little juggling act re attaching them on the way back in.

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John Gardner

1987 S34 mk2 cb #326

Moondance

Marion, MA

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On 06/01/2025 10:36 AM EDT Rob Craig via groups.io <rcraig7466@...> wrote:

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Is the wooden box covering the steering quadrant on a 34 mkII supposed to come out without disassembly?? I can move it around but can't quite seem to get it out of the way of one or the other bulkhead to remove it from the lazarette.? Probably a stupid question, but it turns out I'm terrible with puzzles...

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Rob Craig
Sabre 34-2 #286 "Grace"
Tred Avon River
Easton, MD

Box on Steering Quadrant #sabre34MkII

#103889

Is the wooden box covering the steering quadrant on a 34 mkII supposed to come out without disassembly?? I can move it around but can't quite seem to get it out of the way of one or the other bulkhead to remove it from the lazarette.? Probably a stupid question, but it turns out I'm terrible with puzzles...

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Rob Craig
Sabre 34-2 #286 "Grace"
Tred Avon River
Easton, MD

Re: Westebeke oil filters for sale

#103888

Jim -

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If they are still available, I will buy the filters, let me know the total cost including shipping. ?Thanks!

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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI

Re: Alternator replacement for Motorola on 34' 1980

#103887

On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 11:19 AM, Dan Grossman wrote:

Balmar

Thanks All!

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MikeMcKinney

Sabre34 Mark1

Kosmic Kat

Re: PSS Shaft Seal Leaking

#103886

Unless it's already too compressed you should be able to compress the bellows by hand. If you want to move the locking ring to compress the bellows install a backup/safety ring if you don't already have one (good idea to have one anyway), then loosen the screws on the main ring and put temporary shims (almost anything will do) between the two rings, which will force the main ring toward the bellows. Temporarily tighten the set screws on one side, then replace and tighten the screws on the other side. Once those are tightened remove and replace the other set of screws so all are replaced and tight. Finish by snugging up the secondary collar replacing those screws as well. As mentioned, the set screws are intended for one use only so should always be replaced.

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Sabre 38-2 #164

Re: PSS Shaft Seal Leaking

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On May 31, 2025, at 8:04?AM, Jim Starkey via groups.io <Jim@...> wrote:

Much simpler procedure:??

Get a flat round zinc that fits your prop shaft.??

Install the zinc between the disc just tight enough so it will slide with a mallet tap.??

Remove and discard the set screws in the disc.??

Tap the zinc with your mallet (or hammer, if you wish) until you get the desired compression, hopefully stopping the leak.

Tighten down the zinc.

Replace the four set screws in the disc, two per hole. And be sure to USE NEWSET SCREWS as they are single use set screws.

Leave the zinc in place as a backstop.? No problem doing this in the water.

On 5/31/2025 10:07 AM, Ed Bailey via groups.io wrote:

I had success using carpenters clamps to compress the bellows. A mallet likely won't work. I wouldn't release the compression completely in the water, but suggest to clamp things in place, then use the clamps to compress another 1/8 to 1/4 if it will go.

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If no success, you'll need to haul out, and likely replace the PSS.

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SV Enigma, Sabre 362 #199
Lake Erie @ Sandusky, OH

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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC

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Jim Starkey

Shearwater

SW42, earlier S36

Manchester, Mass

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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest