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Re: USCG proposal to remove markers off New England coast
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI made the point that electronic
navigation has too much that can go wrong. "The prudent navigator
never relies on a single aid to navigation." Following (tl;dr) are
my comments:
On 5/16/2025 2:02 PM, Jim Starkey
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Re: S28 MK I ignition lock/switch wiring
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI am not sure I would put 12v through the switch without ohming out the wires to see where they go even with an accurate wiring diagram. Sabre put Universal, Volvo, and Westerbeke engines in these boat, with overlap in the model year. Some boats have been repowered or rewired along the way. Some boats may be pristine but Sabre 28s were made for over 20 years over 30 years ago. The extra 10 minute activity is worth it to avoid the $200 to have your alternator, starter, or both rebuilt. Corey On May 15, 2025, at 4:41?PM, Michael Sterling via groups.io <sterling1mster@...> wrote:
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Re: USCG proposal to remove markers off New England coast
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIf you write a reply, keep in mind that channel and hazard
markers are indeed critically important, but pure "navigational"
buoys are mostly obsolete.? The test should be something like, "a
marker is critical when someone should be looking at the markers
and not have his/her head buried in a chart/plotter."? Arguing
that we should keep everything risks losing the ones that are
truly important. Pulling the buoys in Woods Hole is nothing but nuts! On 5/16/2025 1:32 PM, Jim Harman via
groups.io wrote:
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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC -- Jim Starkey
Shearwater
SW42, earlier S36
Manchester, Mass |
USCG proposal to remove markers off New England coast
A friend alerted me to a Coast Guard proposal to remove hundreds of navigational markers along the New England coast, including red/white checkered harbor entrance buoys, several buoys around Block Island, Stonington and Watch Hill, the Cape Cod Canal, Woods Hole, and well over 100 along the Maine coast. Apparently the markers would not be removed until next year sometime, but they are open to public comment until June 13.
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There is an independent website with a chart showing the proposed removals, information about the proposal, and how to submit comments here:
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I plan to submit comments and thought others might be interested as well.?
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-- Jim Harman Arcadia S402 #2 Southport CT |
Re: How many are still around?
A blast from the past. I remember your name from 20 years ago when we both had S28s. Great boats and a absolute sleeper on the race course. Bill Kellner ExS28 Second Wind hull 258 S32 CB Throwback hull 22 Sandusky Ohio On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 10:21?AM Sid Wax via <sid_w=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: How many are still around?
Interesting question... I personally witnessed the demise? of two of them.? Passing Fancy was done in in a collision with another sailboat under power.? Very tragic... Passing Fancy (319). I owned her for 15 years, and had just done some major upgrades during COVID.? The next year I bought another one -Empijones...I don't recall the sail number... That one died a natural death... rotted cockpit sole and a bad engine.? I'm in the market for another one right now. |
Re: Water Tank Gaskets
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOr your local marine chandlery if they carry engine parts; so $12 cash for three sets of four ring gaskets (water, waste, diesel) is better than $16 for one at WM. Just bring in the old ones to match. Grainger is great idea.
Franz Alvarez
S/V Tranquility S38MKII
Soon to be headed to CI
Get From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Christopher M Evans via groups.io <chris.evans61@...>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2025 7:40:47 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SabreSailboat] Water Tank Gaskets ?
Joe,
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What size did you find for the deck fills?
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Christopher Evans
Habanero S32
Reedville, VA
-- Franz Alvarez S/V Tranquility - S38MKII |
Re: How many are still around?
Hi Rich
small world!!
Thanks for the comeback.?
Good to know.? she was purchased by Tish, a sailing instructor, brought round through the Chesapeake and Delaware canal and up the ?NJ coast to her berth in Kingston NY on the Rondout. ?Brackish to Fresh.? we brought her through Hell Gate to Long Island sound in 2021.? PO kept lots of ship¡¯s equipment notes. Very handy! fair winds
sincerely?
Eugene & Maureen?
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Eugene & Maureen ¡®°Õ¾±³¾±ð´Ç³Ü³Ù¡¯ 34-2 1987 #301 Fort Rachel Marina Mystic, CT |
Re: Fairclough cover for S28 free
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýAs an FYI ¨C these are great covers but they are cotton canvas / duck and do shrink.? On my other boat we had Fairclough add 10¡± to the aft section several years ago after ~ 12 years of use from new.? They also need restitching after 10 years as UV does degrade the thread. ? ? We had a new cover made last year for our Sabre and it was more than a little tight from the outset.? So tight that some of the stitching was pulling out, and the zippers at the mast unzipped by themselves several times this past winter.? This summer Fairclough is adding some material to ease the fit. ? Brian Escapade? S426 CT / LIS ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2025 8:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SabreSailboat] Fairclough cover for S28 free ? Hello Elizabeth, Serenade is indeed a 28, so no stretching necessary. I would also be very interested, love to have it, if it¡¯s still officially available and will come get it ASAP if you need it gone. You can PM me, email me, contact me however you wish and make arrangements to meet at the yacht club. I look forward to hearing from you, if it doesn¡¯t work out for the previous posters.? Best, Peter Metcalf ? -- Peter Metcalf |
Re: Squirrel issue
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýChris you can by pass the Erie Canal and go to lake Champlain and then to the st Lawrence river. It is longer but no delays and you get to see Montreal.Sabre 402#37. Lake Ontario? Mike Newbury? On May 15, 2025, at 9:12?PM, greglocke03 via groups.io <greglocke03@...> wrote:
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Re: 426 belt replacement - raw water hose makes it difficult
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Neil,Unfortunately I don¡¯t have any pics of our motor as she looks today, just partial pics. ?I am enclosing a 2003 426 stock Yanmar install. ?This is not our boat but it was how our boat looked when we bought it. I believe the only difference is the overflow tank is on port on Kingfisher. ?We do not have any interference on our engine when changing the belt and we have a serpentine belt. ?Can you post a picture? Allison Lehman Swiftsure Yachts allison@... Cell: 510.912.5800 Fax: 510.860.4640
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Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest |
Re: AGM Battery recommendation
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI bought our Delphia 40 three years ago and haven¡¯t worried. As some of you know I use a stock Yanmar alternator and a Victron DC/DC that maxes at 30amps. ?I¡¯ve run the 200ah (2x 100ah) down to 30ah total a couple times w no impact. ?And still getting the reqd voltage at that level.?My two 125w panels and two Victron controllers just arrived yesterday from CMP.? Please consider the environment before printing this email. Thank you. On May 15, 2025, at 2:03?PM, Jim Starkey via groups.io <Jim@...> wrote:
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Re: S28 MK I ignition lock/switch wiring
Assuming the current switch still works, you could?
I would guess that the red wire with the boot on it goes?to the battery. The terminal with multiple wires is probably the "Ignition/Run" position, which would be connected to the battery in all the other positions. One of the other terminals should be the "Start" position, it's not clear what the 4th terminal is for. ? On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 4:41?PM Michael Sterling via <sterling1mster=[email protected]> wrote:
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-- Jim Harman Arcadia S402 #2 Southport CT |
Re: AGM Battery recommendation
With AGM, everything, EVERYTHING, depends on how they were treated.? When we bought our current boat, it had a 4 AGM house bank that didn't make it through 4 years of use.? The AGM starting battery, on the other hand, is still going strong after 16 years.
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AGMs were invented, designed, and intended for use as aircraft starting batteries, which are more or less guaranteed to be fully recharged before the start of the takeoff roll.? Used on a cruising boat that lives on mooring and without solar, AGMs are a disaster.? Topped off daily from solar, no problem.? Topped off daily while plugged in at a marina, fine unless you take extended cruises. But frankly, word of mouth without knowing the details of installation and usage isn't going to tell you anything worth knowing. [The other question is whether to convert to LFP now or wait until the new batteries crap out.? I'm told that among the best things about LFP is that you don't have to worry about them.? But I haven't reached that point...] On 5/15/2025 4:13 PM, David & Catherine via groups.io wrote:
We have just replaced our 4 D batteries in our "not.a Sabre" with two Full River 4 D AGM batteries . They came well recommended and another boat in the marina has had them so far for eight years with no problem. --
Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC |
Re: S28 MK I ignition lock/switch wiring
Corey, I don't think it's quite as random as you suggest ?I have the original factory wiring diagram from 1988 & it's been quote accurate? ?Certainly some changes have been made since the boat left the factory but even those have been easy to follow. To the OP try to get your hands on an original diagram. Mike s/v Ladylike? 88 38' MK II Michael Sterling Ph. 252-646-9610 On Thu, May 15, 2025, 2:35?PM Corey Manero via <ckmanero=[email protected]> wrote:
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