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Hi all,
can the handrails cause leaking? I re-bedded both rails with Butyl Tape, and was expecting through bolts to secure them. Instead, they were screwed on. ?Do the screws go all the way through? The fiberglass roof liner blocks the view.?
thanks,
Mike
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Michael Henning?
1985 S36 Caper
Allen Harbor, RI
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Re: Lift Pump replacement
That’s a handy chart. I see on the Facet site that the pumps have been upgraded to electronic activation rather than the mechanical breaker points, so they should outlive all of us. Also, the Facet p/n is stamped on the mounting foot.
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On May 11, 2025, at 9:13?AM, Tim Dokken via groups.io <timdokken@...> wrote:
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As mentioned the original pump was made by Facet. ?There is a replacement guide from Facet to make sure you choose the right pump. ?As long as you have the Westerbeke part number and you should be good.
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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI
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Re: Raymarine GA-200 not appearing as data source
Hi Carter,
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Might be a dumb question, but do you have the VHF turned on?
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Re: Lift Pump replacement
Bob -
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As mentioned the original pump was made by Facet. ?There is a replacement guide from Facet to make sure you choose the right pump. ?As long as you have the Westerbeke part number and you should be good.
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Tim Dokken
1985 Sabre 32 #59
Bayfield, WI
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Re: Raymarine GA-200 not appearing as data source
I agree that it is weird that position cannot be output from the AIS700, either on N2K or NMEA0183. There may be a technical reason, but more probably it was made by the marketing team!
Raymarine do not make the AIS 700 completely in house. The AIS boards are made by SRT (whose marketing brand is em-trac) The equivalent unit from em-trac is the B953, which does actually allow output of GPS data on both N2K and NMEA0 0183 and it is one of these that I have on board Chardonnay - which has a relatively recent ICOM M506 VHF, but unfortunately the version without N2K.
I do have to say that part of the problem is with VHF Radio manufacturers, who have been pounding us with the (very real) importance of DSC and the attendant requirement for position to be available at the radio for distress purposes as well as its added benefits for private call and reply etc for years, but yet have been incredibly slow to incorporate N2K into their products as the standard for position input.
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As I have been typing this, I did have the thought that perhaps the method Raymarine have for ignoring own ship AIS transmissions in its received data could be the sticking point. Raymarine displays use the proximity of the AIS receiver to the vessel's main GPS receiver to determine whether to ignore a broadcast deemed to be from its own ship, but I guess that would all depend upon who wrote the software. If for instance the AIS700 were to use the main GPS position to figure out own ship and then rebroadcast it on the N2K network or over NMEA 0183, this may cause data loops.
Lastly, I would like to say that knowing Joel at Raymarine personally, he is undoubtedly my go to man there, very knowledgeable and is a straight shooter, who will always go the extra mile to get answers.
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Pete Waterson
“颁丑补谤诲辞苍苍补测”
S38-2
Oriental, NC
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Re: Naviionics & B&G Zeus MFD
The only thing which comes to mind is to check the settings to select the new map card slot. I recall you can see both slots in the menu. My mfd is a zeus2. Len Bertaux Walkabout S38mkii Prides Crossing MA
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On May 11, 2025, at 7:56?AM, JLubimir via groups.io <jlubimir@...> wrote:
? I just inserted a new Navionics micro Sim card into my Zeus touch screen MFD and all I am seeing are the shoreline course detail-? no normal navionics data.? All other Navionics cards work fine.? Is there some new activation step I am missing?
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Thank you.
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John Lubimir
s/v Passage
S452
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Naviionics & B&G Zeus MFD
I just inserted a new Navionics micro Sim card into my Zeus touch screen MFD and all I am seeing are the shoreline course detail-? no normal navionics data.? All other Navionics cards work fine.? Is there some new activation step I am missing?
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Thank you.
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John Lubimir
s/v Passage
S452
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Re: Ideas for Sailing with a Kayak?
Ideas for Sailing on a Kayak?
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A small parachute kite, with a kayak with a rudder and flat bladed paddles( used as Lee boards) can be a fun sail.?
cheers!!
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Eugene & Maureen
‘罢颈尘别辞耻迟’
34-2 1987 #301
Fort Rachel Marina
Mystic, CT
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Re: Lift Pump replacement
Bob If you have cylindrical pump with a bottom filter, it’s a Facet pump, available from many discount auto parts sites at a fraction of the Westerbeke price. It’s not a Mitsubishi part. You will need to determine if you have 1/4 or 1/8” npt outlets.
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On May 10, 2025, at 8:18?PM, Christopher M Evans via groups.io <chris.evans61@...> wrote:
? Thanks Everyone. It complained but finally started.
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Re: Lift Pump replacement
Thanks Everyone. It complained but finally started.
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Please check your manual for the sizes (yes, there are two at a minimum) if you have rod so you have the correct gauge. For Sabre 38 MK2 the Loos model is RT-10.
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It does appear that there are two different gauges for rod or wire.?
And there are instructions toons on the web to make your own gauge.?
TonyTony Billera
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On May 10, 2025, at 3:58???PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
???There are different sizes of Loos gauges, be sure to get the one for your size of rigging. ?I also believe there is a different one for rod vs wire.
Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
On May 10, 2025, at 3:36???PM, Mike via groups.io <mikecnewbury76@...> wrote:
Yes it is made for rod rigging.? Mike
Does that Loos tension gauge work on rod rigging?
Thanks,
Michael
Wind Walker
S402-097
On 5/10/2025 12:55 PM, Stephanie via groups.io wrote:
Here???s one of the links but my box from the Loos gauge has the measurements and you???ll have to verify size of the wire or rod).?
It???s best to get it close to straight by measuring side to side and site up the mast for any bends at the shrouds. ?Then go to the closer rigging.?
Stephanie
Arista, S36 #67, Lake Ontario?
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Stephanie
Moderator
Sabre 36, #67
Formerly Sabre 28-2, #289
Wilson Harbor, NY Lake Ontario
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
-- Franz Alvarez S/V Tranquility - S38MKII
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Re: Lift Pump replacement
On the subject of lift pumps, I was thinking of getting a spare for my 1984 W13. I understand that our engines are Mitsubishi painted Westerbeke red. Does anyone know what model engine my W13 is? Also where I can cross reference part numbers?
Bob Marthaler? Shimako S30 mkII
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On May 9, 2025, at 23:33, LRG via groups.io <lgridley@...> wrote:
? With a lift pump you don't really need to bleed. As per Pete's comment let the pump run for a minute then go ahead and start the engine. It may take a bit of cracking and run rough for a few seconds but will smooth out after a few seconds. Just did this today on my 38-B4 when I changed the filters.
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Sabre 38-2 #164
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It does appear that there are two different gauges for rod or wire.?
And there are instructions toons on the web to make your own gauge.?
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On May 10, 2025, at 3:58?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
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There are different sizes of Loos gauges, be sure to get the one for your size of rigging. ?I also believe there is a different one for rod vs wire.
Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
On May 10, 2025, at 3:36?PM, Mike via groups.io <mikecnewbury76@...> wrote:
Yes it is made for rod rigging.? Mike
Does that Loos tension gauge work on rod rigging?
Thanks,
Michael
Wind Walker
S402-097
On 5/10/2025 12:55 PM, Stephanie via
groups.io wrote:
Here’s one of the links but my box from the Loos gauge has the
measurements and you’ll have to verify size of the wire or rod).?
It’s best to get it close to straight by measuring side to
side and site up the mast for any bends at the shrouds. ?Then go
to the closer rigging.?
Stephanie
Arista, S36 #67, Lake Ontario?
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Stephanie
Moderator
Sabre 36, #67
Formerly Sabre 28-2, #289
Wilson Harbor, NY Lake Ontario
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
There are different sizes of Loos gauges, be sure to get the one for your size of rigging. ?I also believe there is a different one for rod vs wire.
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On May 10, 2025, at 3:36?PM, Mike via groups.io <mikecnewbury76@...> wrote:
Yes it is made for rod rigging.? Mike
Does that Loos tension gauge work on rod rigging?
Thanks,
Michael
Wind Walker
S402-097
On 5/10/2025 12:55 PM, Stephanie via
groups.io wrote:
Here’s one of the links but my box from the Loos gauge has the
measurements and you’ll have to verify size of the wire or rod).?
It’s best to get it close to straight by measuring side to
side and site up the mast for any bends at the shrouds. ?Then go
to the closer rigging.?
Stephanie
Arista, S36 #67, Lake Ontario?
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Stephanie
Moderator
Sabre 36, #67
Formerly Sabre 28-2, #289
Wilson Harbor, NY Lake Ontario
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
They are different for wire and Rod rigging.
Stephanie
Arista, S36 #67, Lake Ontario
Shburgess1207@...
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Stephanie
Moderator
Sabre 36, #67
Formerly Sabre 28-2, #289
Wilson Harbor, NY Lake Ontario
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Yes it is made for rod rigging.? Mike
Does that Loos tension gauge work on rod rigging?
Thanks,
Michael
Wind Walker
S402-097
On 5/10/2025 12:55 PM, Stephanie via
groups.io wrote:
Here’s one of the links but my box from the Loos gauge has the
measurements and you’ll have to verify size of the wire or rod).?
It’s best to get it close to straight by measuring side to
side and site up the mast for any bends at the shrouds. ?Then go
to the closer rigging.?
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Stephanie
Arista, S36 #67, Lake Ontario?
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Stephanie
Moderator
Sabre 36, #67
Formerly Sabre 28-2, #289
Wilson Harbor, NY Lake Ontario
Does that Loos tension gauge work on rod rigging?
Thanks,
Michael
Wind Walker
S402-097
On 5/10/2025 12:55 PM, Stephanie via
groups.io wrote:
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Here’s one of the links but my box from the Loos gauge has the
measurements and you’ll have to verify size of the wire or rod).?
It’s best to get it close to straight by measuring side to
side and site up the mast for any bends at the shrouds. ?Then go
to the closer rigging.?
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Stephanie
Arista, S36 #67, Lake Ontario?
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Stephanie
Moderator
Sabre 36, #67
Formerly Sabre 28-2, #289
Wilson Harbor, NY Lake Ontario
Re: Ideas for Sailing with a Kayak?
That is where my kayaks or bikes go when crossing the lake. ?I have seen U shaped holders outside the lifelines.?
I see these are at Amazon and west Marine. ? Stephanie Arista, S36 #67, Lake Ontario? Shburgess1207@...?
-- Stephanie
Moderator
Sabre 36, #67
Formerly Sabre 28-2, #289
Wilson Harbor, NY Lake Ontario
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I bought our 42 with one of these Scanmar ladders already in place. I also have the Edson step that I have had for years and kept ti with me as we moved boats... My preference is the step vs the ladder. The ladder I feel is in the way when folded up and on deck. The step is easy and able to stow when not in use. However, I have had some folks on board that are a bit unsteady in their footing that definitely would be better with the scanmar ladder as it offers a more sure footing, especially in bouncy mooring fields. My 2 cents...
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Yes.?
Always go cheap. Good plan.?
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On May 10, 2025, at 9:34?AM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
? Guys, the point should be what suits your needs best then how much does it cost and how can you whittle that $ down.
Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
On May 10, 2025, at 9:00?AM, Jeff Bartlett via groups.io <Jhbartlett@...> wrote:
Ok,
I didn’t go that far.
Functionally they are equivalent. ?If you have the time, tools, and talent, the wood step is likely more satisfying to have and use.
Being unretired, I still factor in time and wages, which makes cost more equal for me.
But even giving it away, Dave would be out at most $20 and his free time. Shipping and tax on the fancy one is likely more than that, so unless you can magically sell a used one for more than you were charged for it new, you are further behind.
On May 10, 2025, at 11:05?AM, Tony Billera via groups.io <tony.billera@...> wrote:
? Cheaper but not anywhere near equivalent. The Edson will last and perform as new for a lifetime. And then one can sell it.?
The hooks themselves are very high quality and about $20 each.?
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On May 10, 2025, at 7:05?AM, David Lochner via groups.io <davelochner@...> wrote:
?The $20 included wood and line. I had some left over varnish. Took may be an hour to make it not including drying time between varnish coats. As for time, I”m at that stage of life where my income only depends on me breathing, aka, retirement.
Even if I valued my time at $100/hour, it would still be cheaper.
Dave
Second Star
S362 #113
Fair Haven, NY/Lake Ontario
On May 10, 2025, at 9:50?AM, Jeff Bartlett via groups.io <Jhbartlett@...> wrote:
It is only $20 if you have the scrap wood, rope, vinyl strip, tools, varnish equipment and a skilled worker who values their time at $0/hour.
Dave wrote:
Yikes! ?$409 for a step?
I have a boarding step made from a 6” x 16” piece of oak suspended by 5/16” line. I added a piece of vinyl weather stripping on the edge that sits against the hull and rounded over the outer edge and varnished. Total cost about $20. Works well and easy to stow
between the stanchion and the toe rail.
Jeff
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Jeff B
1988 Sabre 34-2, 347
S/V Northwood
Deale, MD
-- Jeff B 1988 Sabre 34-2, 347 S/V Northwood Deale, MD
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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