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Re: Cost of insurance survey?

 

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Do you mind me asking who did it?



Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
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Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
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On Apr 11, 2025, at 3:41?PM, LRG via groups.io <lgridley@...> wrote:

I just this week paid $30/ft in San Francisco for an in the water insurance survey. It was more thorough than I expected and probably more than the insurance company needs. Still I was happy to have the boat get a good look over in case I was missing something.
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Sabre 38-2 #164


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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest

smime.p7s
smime.p7s

Re: Cost of insurance survey?

 

I just this week paid $30/ft in San Francisco for an in the water insurance survey. It was more thorough than I expected and probably more than the insurance company needs. Still I was happy to have the boat get a good look over in case I was missing something.
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Sabre 38-2 #164
Re: Cost of insurance survey?

 

I paid $900 last summer for my 1987 Sabre 36 kc? 73
S/V? Meherio
Anne Mullett


On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 2:05 PM, Jeff Bartlett via groups.io
<Jhbartlett@...> wrote:
My understanding is cost for a survey is typically based on length.

The rate you pay for insurance after the survey will vary as you point out.


Jeff?

On Apr 11, 2025, at 11:13?AM, Jim Starkey <Jim@...> wrote:

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Insurance isn't based on length but agreed valuation and all of the little fine print that limits the insurer's risk like deductibles, navigation limits, and, big time, exposure to hurricane risks.

On 4/11/2025 9:12 AM, Dave Witherill via groups.io wrote:
Wondering what folks are paying for an insurance survey these days? ? I was just quoted $32 per foot which seemed a bit steep from my last one but that was 10 years ago.
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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC

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Jeff B

1988 Sabre 34-2, 347

S/V Northwood
Deale, MD

Re: Cost of insurance survey?

 

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My understanding is cost for a survey is typically based on length.

The rate you pay for insurance after the survey will vary as you point out.


Jeff?

On Apr 11, 2025, at 11:13?AM, Jim Starkey <Jim@...> wrote:

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Insurance isn't based on length but agreed valuation and all of the little fine print that limits the insurer's risk like deductibles, navigation limits, and, big time, exposure to hurricane risks.

On 4/11/2025 9:12 AM, Dave Witherill via groups.io wrote:
Wondering what folks are paying for an insurance survey these days? ? I was just quoted $32 per foot which seemed a bit steep from my last one but that was 10 years ago.
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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC

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Jeff B

1988 Sabre 34-2, 347

S/V Northwood
Deale, MD
Sea Frost Engine Driven Refrigeration for sale cheap

 

I removed the above system after finding pitted copper supply lines. it was working well when it held refrigerant. Components in good condition?

Contact me off line if interested.?

Mike Fair?
Second Wind 362
Re: Cost of insurance survey?

 

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Insurance isn't based on length but agreed valuation and all of the little fine print that limits the insurer's risk like deductibles, navigation limits, and, big time, exposure to hurricane risks.

On 4/11/2025 9:12 AM, Dave Witherill via groups.io wrote:
Wondering what folks are paying for an insurance survey these days? ? I was just quoted $32 per foot which seemed a bit steep from my last one but that was 10 years ago.
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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC
Re: Cost of insurance survey?

 

$21 @ foot bundling with home/auto -AMICA?
1989 30 MKII


On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 11:02 AM, David Lochner via groups.io
<davelochner@...> wrote:
I just paid $25 a foot in Brunswick GA.?

Dave?

On Apr 11, 2025, at 9:57?AM, damian.greene via groups.io <damian.greene@...> wrote:

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Sounds about right. I paid $35/foot last September.

Damian Greene

Sabre 38-1 Freefall
Bass Harbor, Maine

On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 02:12:32 PM GMT+1, Dave Witherill via groups.io <penbaydw@...> wrote:


Wondering what folks are paying for an insurance survey these days? ? I was just quoted $32 per foot which seemed a bit steep from my last one but that was 10 years ago.
Re: Cost of insurance survey?

 

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I just paid $25 a foot in Brunswick GA.?

Dave?

On Apr 11, 2025, at 9:57?AM, damian.greene via groups.io <damian.greene@...> wrote:

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Sounds about right. I paid $35/foot last September.

Damian Greene

Sabre 38-1 Freefall
Bass Harbor, Maine

On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 02:12:32 PM GMT+1, Dave Witherill via groups.io <penbaydw@...> wrote:


Wondering what folks are paying for an insurance survey these days? ? I was just quoted $32 per foot which seemed a bit steep from my last one but that was 10 years ago.
Re: Cost of insurance survey?

 

Sounds about right. I paid $35/foot last September.

Damian Greene

Sabre 38-1 Freefall
Bass Harbor, Maine

On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 02:12:32 PM GMT+1, Dave Witherill via groups.io <penbaydw@...> wrote:


Wondering what folks are paying for an insurance survey these days? ? I was just quoted $32 per foot which seemed a bit steep from my last one but that was 10 years ago.
Re: Mast step Rot. #maststeprot #Sabre38

 

Hi Tim,?
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As work progresses, I will do my best to keep you all informed with photos and information. If the yard thinks building and welding a stainless steel box is no longer a good option, we will pivot to G10 as they have the tools to easily cut the material. G10 will probably be much more expensive due to labor, but I want the work to be done right! ?The yard should be starting next week. ? ??
Cost of insurance survey?

 

Wondering what folks are paying for an insurance survey these days? ? I was just quoted $32 per foot which seemed a bit steep from my last one but that was 10 years ago.
Re: Sabre 38 Mk2 rod rigging open style turnbuckles

 

How old is your rigging? If it¡¯s original then you should be looking at replacement particularly if going offshore. Stemballs etc. maybe in the same shape as the turnbuckles. Mine was 25years old and looked great but my rigger was like it¡¯s 25 years old! Best investment I made and peace of mind offshore was worth it!
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Will Rogers
Wynken?
Sabre 426 Hull# 35
RI/Me
Re: Sabre 38 Mk2 rod rigging open style turnbuckles

 

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Pete,?
Do you have wire or rod? ?If you have rod I would suggest you use the ¡°Navtec¡± fittings from Hayn. ?They are the only ones that the ball tips fit into the spreaders properly¡­ don¡¯t ask why I know this.

Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 4:10?AM, Pete Waterson via groups.io <peterjwaterson@...> wrote:

Hi All,
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I just had my insurance survey. Glad to say all went well, except that the surveyor identified what looks like hairline cracks on the inside of one of the ¡°open style¡± cap shroud turnbuckles and a similar line on the inside of one of the lower shroud turnbuckles. My rigger says it is unlikely to be a crack on that style of turnbuckle body, ?but he hasn¡¯t seen it yet. Since I¡¯m going to take the boat to sea, I am willing to change them all out an I am looking at Hayn ?3/8¡±-24 x 5-1/2 ?and 1/2¡±- 20 x 6-1/2¡± bodies, but don¡¯t know if these have the correct threads for the rod rigging ends on a Sabre 38 Mk2. Does anyone know exactly what the normal thread pitch is??
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Pete Waterson
¡°°ä³ó²¹°ù»å´Ç²Ô²Ô²¹²â¡±
S38-2
Oriental, NC


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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest

smime.p7s
smime.p7s

Re: Mast step Rot. #maststeprot #Sabre38

 

I sold the boat years ago and do not have the survey photos.? I bought the boat from fellow lawyer Joel Aronson, who might have some information.

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On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 6:20?AM Tim Smith via <tim.smith.phd=[email protected]> wrote:

Need more details on the configuration of the stainless steel weld-up pls ......? is it to be a full box structure with the bottom contoured to follow? closely the curvature of the bilge? Does it extend fully across the bilge, same as the original plywood step? How will the existing? cast aluminium step be held in place on top of the SS beam? Electrolysis considerations?

I'll be doing this repair next year on my 34/1 and am planning on using white oak. Tx

SV Arrow, S34/1, 1980
Campobello Island, NB.?
Re: Sabre 38 Mk2 rod rigging open style turnbuckles

 

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I¡¯ve replaced mine but offhand I don¡¯t recall the thread pitch. Measure the stud diameter and contact rigrite. They¡¯ll be able to provide the proper turnbuckle. Opt for chromed ?bronze not stainless, that way you won¡¯t inadvertently gall the stud threads.
Len Bertaux
Walkabout S38mkii
Prides Crossing

On Apr 10, 2025, at 7:10?AM, Pete Waterson via groups.io <peterjwaterson@...> wrote:

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Hi All,
?
I just had my insurance survey. Glad to say all went well, except that the surveyor identified what looks like hairline cracks on the inside of one of the ¡°open style¡± cap shroud turnbuckles and a similar line on the inside of one of the lower shroud turnbuckles. My rigger says it is unlikely to be a crack on that style of turnbuckle body, ?but he hasn¡¯t seen it yet. Since I¡¯m going to take the boat to sea, I am willing to change them all out an I am looking at Hayn ?3/8¡±-24 x 5-1/2 ?and 1/2¡±- 20 x 6-1/2¡± bodies, but don¡¯t know if these have the correct threads for the rod rigging ends on a Sabre 38 Mk2. Does anyone know exactly what the normal thread pitch is??
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Pete Waterson
¡°°ä³ó²¹°ù»å´Ç²Ô²Ô²¹²â¡±
S38-2
Oriental, NC
Sabre 38 Mk2 rod rigging open style turnbuckles

 

Hi All,
?
I just had my insurance survey. Glad to say all went well, except that the surveyor identified what looks like hairline cracks on the inside of one of the ¡°open style¡± cap shroud turnbuckles and a similar line on the inside of one of the lower shroud turnbuckles. My rigger says it is unlikely to be a crack on that style of turnbuckle body, ?but he hasn¡¯t seen it yet. Since I¡¯m going to take the boat to sea, I am willing to change them all out an I am looking at Hayn ?3/8¡±-24 x 5-1/2 ?and 1/2¡±- 20 x 6-1/2¡± bodies, but don¡¯t know if these have the correct threads for the rod rigging ends on a Sabre 38 Mk2. Does anyone know exactly what the normal thread pitch is??
--
Pete Waterson
¡°°ä³ó²¹°ù»å´Ç²Ô²Ô²¹²â¡±
S38-2
Oriental, NC
Re: Mast step Rot. #maststeprot #Sabre38

 


Need more details on the configuration of the stainless steel weld-up pls ......? is it to be a full box structure with the bottom contoured to follow? closely the curvature of the bilge? Does it extend fully across the bilge, same as the original plywood step? How will the existing? cast aluminium step be held in place on top of the SS beam? Electrolysis considerations?

I'll be doing this repair next year on my 34/1 and am planning on using white oak. Tx

SV Arrow, S34/1, 1980
Campobello Island, NB.?
Re: LFP Conversions

 

Dave
Great question! I¡¯ll get his opinion on that for next year.
Len Bertaux

On Apr 9, 2025, at 6:50?PM, David Lochner via groups.io <davelochner@...> wrote:

?Len,

Does your tax advisor think it is a tax deductible donation?

Dave
On Apr 9, 2025, at 6:42?PM, Len Bertaux via groups.io <lbertaux@...> wrote:

Jim
Just think of it as a donation to offset a small portion of the 5 trillion tax cuts.
Len Bertaux

On Apr 9, 2025, at 6:36?PM, Jim Starkey <jim@...> wrote:
?If anyone is contemplating and LFP conversion, I suggest you buy the batteries now! When the existing inventory in the US is gone, the next batteries will be 2x to 3x as much, if they could be found at all.

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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC
Re: LFP Conversions

 

Len,

Does your tax advisor think it is a tax deductible donation?

Dave

On Apr 9, 2025, at 6:42?PM, Len Bertaux via groups.io <lbertaux@...> wrote:

Jim
Just think of it as a donation to offset a small portion of the 5 trillion tax cuts.
Len Bertaux

On Apr 9, 2025, at 6:36?PM, Jim Starkey <jim@...> wrote:

?If anyone is contemplating and LFP conversion, I suggest you buy the batteries now! When the existing inventory in the US is gone, the next batteries will be 2x to 3x as much, if they could be found at all.

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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC
Re: LFP Conversions

 

Jim
Just think of it as a donation to offset a small portion of the 5 trillion tax cuts.
Len Bertaux

On Apr 9, 2025, at 6:36?PM, Jim Starkey <jim@...> wrote:

?If anyone is contemplating and LFP conversion, I suggest you buy the batteries now! When the existing inventory in the US is gone, the next batteries will be 2x to 3x as much, if they could be found at all.

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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC
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