Re: impeller access in Westerbeke 35B 3 in Sabre 362
Paul,
As you can tell from the replies, this is not an easy task.? I highly recommend replacing with an impeller from Globe.? They are made from a different material and last much longer.? I only replace every three years now instead of every year.??
Roger
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For what it¡¯s worth, the water pump on my 35 C in my 2002 Sabre 362 faces forward and is just as easy to service as the Beta.? I don¡¯t know what else might be different between the 35 C and B, but I give thanks for small miracles¡
Eric Wagner
S632 Nirvana
Point Pleasant, NJ
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Eric Wagner
2002 S362 #248 Nirvana
-- Roger Kuebel Restless S362#150 Padanaram, MA
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Re: Ideas for Sailing with a Kayak?
Garhauer makes add-ons to attach to your stanchions to store kayaks.
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Tim R
38MKII in refit
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Re: Mast VHF Coaxial cable
I suggest using RG213 - I have used this on my last boat and installing into my 38.
I would be up in Georgian Bay and get clear signals from Port Huron.
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I used pool noodles in the bottom half of my mast to reduce slapping inside the mast.
I forgot about that until this thread reminded me.
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Tim R
38MKII in refit
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I changed the head joker valve and deep cleaned the head area, pumping the floor rinse water through the shower sump. The pump threw water violently out of the sink drain. The under-sink plumbing is a mess, complete with RTV. Pump is a Jabsco 50880-1000 Shower Sump Pump. There is a bronze check valve 6" above the thru-hull that I assume the PO added to prevent flooding during heel. The back pressure may be the cause of the violence.
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I recall, but can't find a post 2-3 years ago showing a nice replumbing of this area. Can anyone please point me to this or another solution?
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Thanks/Ed
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SV Enigma, Sabre 362 #199 Lake Erie @ Sandusky, OH
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Re: Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
Nice looking boat Kevin.
Allison LehmanSwiftsure Yachtsallison@...Cell: 510.912.5800Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 20, 2025, at 6:40?AM, Liz Baylis via groups.io <LizBaylis@...> wrote:
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And back at you, Radiance!
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Liz Baylis San Rafael, California S/V Acquaviva? Sabre 425 hull #83 Bristol, Rhode Island
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Re: Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
And back at you, Radiance!
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Liz Baylis San Rafael, California S/V Acquaviva? Sabre 425 hull #83 Bristol, Rhode Island
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Re: impeller access in Westerbeke 35B 3 in Sabre 362
For what it¡¯s worth, the water pump on my 35 C in my 2002 Sabre 362 faces forward and is just as easy to service as the Beta. I don¡¯t know what else might be different between the 35 C and B, but I give thanks for small miracles¡
Eric Wagner S632 Nirvana Point Pleasant, NJ
-- Eric Wagner 2002 S362 #248 Nirvana
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Re: Shopping for S28 or S30
Good morning Nathaniel, our Sabre 28 is currently listed on Boats.com and Sailboatlistings.com. I tried to PM you but I got an undeliverable notice for some reason. You can email me and I would send you the links for our listings or if you search those sites I'm Sure you could pick them out.
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Hope to touch base with you soon, Peter
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Peter Metcalf Pfmet@... Sabre 28 #312 Serenade Noank, CT
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Re: Shopping for S28 or S30
What is your price range?
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Piotr Serwik
S28 Mk I (standing rigging from Mk II).
1972, Hull #13
"Deep Blew"
Rock Hall, MD
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Re: Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
Rhode River is a nice anchorage. Stayed there a couple of days last October. The Smithsonian Environmental Center is there and an interesting project. Nice trails to stretch your legs on.
Dave Second Star S362 #113 Fair Haven, NY/Lake Ontario Currently Annapolis MD?
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On May 19, 2025, at 10:26?PM, Liz Baylis via groups.io <LizBaylis@...> wrote:
Yes, that¡¯s us!
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We had our heads down in projects today and didn¡¯t notice our neighbors!
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Liz Baylis San Rafael, California S/V Acquaviva? Sabre 425 hull #83 Bristol, Rhode Island
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Re: Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
Yes, that¡¯s us!
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We had our heads down in projects today and didn¡¯t notice our neighbors!
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Liz Baylis San Rafael, California S/V Acquaviva? Sabre 425 hull #83 Bristol, Rhode Island
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Re: Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
That is Liz Baylis and Todd Hedin. ?
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On May 19, 2025, at 2:24?PM, Kevin Ford via groups.io <Kpford404@...> wrote:
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Beautiful vessel
Kevin Ford Sabre 38 hull 156 Radiance
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Re: Winter storage in or near Cleveland or Sandusky?
Brands Marina - Port Clinton- mast up or down1 hour west of Cleveland. 4 hour drive from the loop via Ohio and Indiana toll roads. Bill Kellner S32 Sandusky Ohio
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Hi all,
Does anyone have a recommendation for winter storage near Cleveland or possibly Sandusky?
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Purchasing a boat on the east coast and will be sailing back to Chicago later this summer assuming the Erie Canal reopens.? I¡¯m planning on getting as far as Cleveland, storing her there for winter and finishing the trip next summer.? Or maybe a yard near Sandusky would be less expensive?
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Bill Akins
S30 #85
Chicago
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Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
Beautiful vessel
Kevin Ford Sabre 38 hull 156 Radiance
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Re: Winter storage in or near Cleveland or Sandusky?
Bill, We've stored at Whiskey Island in Cleveland, they allow mast up storage on their stands. No frills, but good competent people. We dock in Sandusky and just made the 7hr trip Wednesday.?
Ed
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Hi all,
Does anyone have a recommendation for winter storage near Cleveland or possibly Sandusky?
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Purchasing a boat on the east coast and will be sailing back to Chicago later this summer assuming the Erie Canal reopens.? I¡¯m planning on getting as far as Cleveland, storing her there for winter and finishing the trip next summer.? Or maybe a yard near Sandusky would be less expensive?
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Bill Akins
S30 #85
Chicago
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-- SV Enigma, Sabre 362 #199 Lake Erie @ Sandusky, OH
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Winter storage in or near Cleveland or Sandusky?
Hi all,
Does anyone have a recommendation for winter storage near Cleveland or possibly Sandusky?
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Purchasing a boat on the east coast and will be sailing back to Chicago later this summer assuming the Erie Canal reopens. ?I¡¯m planning on getting as far as Cleveland, storing her there for winter and finishing the trip next summer. ?Or maybe a yard near Sandusky would be less expensive?
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Bill Akins
S30 #85
Chicago
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Re: 426 belt replacement - raw water hose makes it difficult
Yes. I have a Westerbeke. It makes life easier
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On May 19, 2025, at 2:13?PM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
? Joel,
Did you need to use the adapter bracket?
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neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com ¡°Whisper II¡± S426-034 Salem MA
On May 19, 2025, at 9:54?AM, Joel Greenfield via groups.io <jgz108@...> wrote:
If you need a reference point my 42.6 is stored at Beverly? On May 19, 2025, at 9:42?AM, Joel Greenfield via groups.io <jgz108@...> wrote:
? The belt buddy is a must have!! On May 19, 2025, at 9:34?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
? Continuing the topic a bit - the pulley spreader tool in my bag is too long to fit between the new water pump and alternator pulleys.
I see Balmar sells something called ¡°Belt Buddy¡± that looks like it bolts in place and has a threaded rod that performs the same spreading function - anyone tried this?
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neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com ¡°Whisper II¡± S426-034 Salem MA
On May 17, 2025, at 12:57?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
That¡¯s kinda what we do but it is a bit easier with the serpentine belt.
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On May 17, 2025, at 8:51?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
I plan to be on board tomorrow to install the crank pulley with the M10x20 bolts that I ordered from Amazon. I¡¯ll take a pic or two. I have two belts, 44.5 and 47 inch due to wrong initial order, so if the smaller belt gives me the same issue, I¡¯ll try the larger belt for the heck of it.
Our engine layout is similar to your pic, but coolant tank is port side, and we have no flywheel (?)
I¡¯m beginning to suspect that I purchased an incorrect too short v-belt a couple years ago off a cross referene on someone¡¯s web page.
When our alternator is pushed up against that coolant hose to the left in your pic, my v belt required gentle persuasion with large screwdrivers, not ideal.
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neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com ¡°Whisper II¡± S426-034 Salem MA
On May 15, 2025, at 9:56?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
Hi Neil, Unfortunately I don¡¯t have any pics of our motor as she looks today, just partial pics. ?I am enclosing a 2003 426 stock Yanmar install. ?This is not our boat but it was how our boat looked when we bought it. I believe the only difference is the overflow tank is on port on Kingfisher. ?We do not have any interference on our engine when changing the belt and we have a serpentine belt. ?Can you post a picture?
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On May 15, 2025, at 9:17?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
Has anyone figured out a good way to move the raw water hose and re attach it when replacing alternator belts on a 426?
The hose literally prevents the alternator (we have 105A Balmar) from moving more than 1/4¡± toward the centerline.
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neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com ¡°Whisper II¡± S426-034 Salem MA
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Hi everyone,? I joined the group about a month ago when I nearly had a deal on a S28 (the seller had a change of heart and is holding onto her for the time being), and then last week I just missed out on an S30 that went under contract before I got my offer in. ? ?So I'm back on the market, and thought I'd mention it here. ?If anyone in the northeast has a S28 or S30 they'd like to sell, please let me know!
Ellsworth, ME
Cape Dory 22 "Real Quiet Echo"
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Re: White Gelcoat color code
Jim, Greetings from Chicago! What did you end up doing for gelcoat? Thanks
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Walrus?
S36 #64
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Re: 426 belt replacement - raw water hose makes it difficult
Joel,
Did you need to use the adapter bracket?
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neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com ¡°Whisper II¡± S426-034 Salem MA
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On May 19, 2025, at 9:54?AM, Joel Greenfield via groups.io <jgz108@...> wrote:
If you need a reference point my 42.6 is stored at Beverly? On May 19, 2025, at 9:42?AM, Joel Greenfield via groups.io <jgz108@...> wrote:
? The belt buddy is a must have!! On May 19, 2025, at 9:34?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
? Continuing the topic a bit - the pulley spreader tool in my bag is too long to fit between the new water pump and alternator pulleys.
I see Balmar sells something called ¡°Belt Buddy¡± that looks like it bolts in place and has a threaded rod that performs the same spreading function - anyone tried this?
¡ª±·±ð¾±±ô
neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com ¡°Whisper II¡± S426-034 Salem MA
On May 17, 2025, at 12:57?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
That¡¯s kinda what we do but it is a bit easier with the serpentine belt.
Allison Lehman Swiftsure Yachts allison@... Cell: 510.912.5800 Fax: 510.860.4640 <PastedGraphic-1.tiff>
On May 17, 2025, at 8:51?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
I plan to be on board tomorrow to install the crank pulley with the M10x20 bolts that I ordered from Amazon. I¡¯ll take a pic or two. I have two belts, 44.5 and 47 inch due to wrong initial order, so if the smaller belt gives me the same issue, I¡¯ll try the larger belt for the heck of it.
Our engine layout is similar to your pic, but coolant tank is port side, and we have no flywheel (?)
I¡¯m beginning to suspect that I purchased an incorrect too short v-belt a couple years ago off a cross referene on someone¡¯s web page.
When our alternator is pushed up against that coolant hose to the left in your pic, my v belt required gentle persuasion with large screwdrivers, not ideal.
¡ª±·±ð¾±±ô
neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com ¡°Whisper II¡± S426-034 Salem MA
On May 15, 2025, at 9:56?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
Hi Neil, Unfortunately I don¡¯t have any pics of our motor as she looks today, just partial pics. ?I am enclosing a 2003 426 stock Yanmar install. ?This is not our boat but it was how our boat looked when we bought it. I believe the only difference is the overflow tank is on port on Kingfisher. ?We do not have any interference on our engine when changing the belt and we have a serpentine belt. ?Can you post a picture?
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Allison Lehman Swiftsure Yachts allison@... Cell: 510.912.5800 Fax: 510.860.4640 <PastedGraphic-1.tiff>
On May 15, 2025, at 9:17?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
Has anyone figured out a good way to move the raw water hose and re attach it when replacing alternator belts on a 426?
The hose literally prevents the alternator (we have 105A Balmar) from moving more than 1/4¡± toward the centerline.
¡ª±·±ð¾±±ô
neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com ¡°Whisper II¡± S426-034 Salem MA
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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