Re: Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
And back at you, Radiance!
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Liz Baylis
San Rafael, California
S/V Acquaviva?
Sabre 425 hull #83
Bristol, Rhode Island
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Re: impeller access in Westerbeke 35B 3 in Sabre 362
For what it¡¯s worth, the water pump on my 35 C in my 2002 Sabre 362 faces forward and is just as easy to service as the Beta. I don¡¯t know what else might be different between the 35 C and B, but I give thanks for small miracles¡
Eric Wagner
S632 Nirvana
Point Pleasant, NJ
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Eric Wagner
2002 S362 #248 Nirvana
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Re: Shopping for S28 or S30
Good morning Nathaniel, our Sabre 28 is currently listed on Boats.com and Sailboatlistings.com. I tried to PM you but I got an undeliverable notice for some reason. You can email me and I would send you the links for our listings or if you search those sites I'm Sure you could pick them out.
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Hope to touch base with you soon, Peter
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Peter Metcalf
Pfmet@...
Sabre 28 #312 Serenade
Noank, CT
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Re: Shopping for S28 or S30
What is your price range?
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Piotr Serwik
S28 Mk I (standing rigging from Mk II).
1972, Hull #13
"Deep Blew"
Rock Hall, MD
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Re: Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
Rhode River is a nice anchorage. Stayed there a couple of days last October. The Smithsonian Environmental Center is there and an interesting project. Nice trails to stretch your legs on.
Dave Second Star S362 #113 Fair Haven, NY/Lake Ontario Currently Annapolis MD?
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On May 19, 2025, at 10:26?PM, Liz Baylis via groups.io <LizBaylis@...> wrote:
Yes, that¡¯s us!
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We had our heads down in projects today and didn¡¯t notice our neighbors!
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Liz Baylis
San Rafael, California
S/V Acquaviva?
Sabre 425 hull #83
Bristol, Rhode Island
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Re: Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
Yes, that¡¯s us!
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We had our heads down in projects today and didn¡¯t notice our neighbors!
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Liz Baylis
San Rafael, California
S/V Acquaviva?
Sabre 425 hull #83
Bristol, Rhode Island
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Re: Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
That is Liz Baylis and Todd Hedin. ?
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On May 19, 2025, at 2:24?PM, Kevin Ford via groups.io <Kpford404@...> wrote:
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Beautiful vessel
Kevin Ford Sabre 38 hull 156 Radiance
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Re: Winter storage in or near Cleveland or Sandusky?
Brands Marina - Port Clinton- mast up or down1 hour west of Cleveland. 4 hour drive from the loop via Ohio and Indiana toll roads. Bill Kellner S32 Sandusky Ohio
Hi all,
Does anyone have a recommendation for winter storage near Cleveland or possibly Sandusky?
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Purchasing a boat on the east coast and will be sailing back to Chicago later this summer assuming the Erie Canal reopens.? I¡¯m planning on getting as far as Cleveland, storing her there for winter and finishing the trip next summer.? Or maybe a yard near Sandusky would be less expensive?
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Bill Akins
S30 #85
Chicago
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Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
Beautiful vessel
Kevin Ford Sabre 38 hull 156 Radiance
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Re: Winter storage in or near Cleveland or Sandusky?
Bill, We've stored at Whiskey Island in Cleveland, they allow mast up storage on their stands. No frills, but good competent people. We dock in Sandusky and just made the 7hr trip Wednesday.?
Ed
Hi all,
Does anyone have a recommendation for winter storage near Cleveland or possibly Sandusky?
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Purchasing a boat on the east coast and will be sailing back to Chicago later this summer assuming the Erie Canal reopens.? I¡¯m planning on getting as far as Cleveland, storing her there for winter and finishing the trip next summer.? Or maybe a yard near Sandusky would be less expensive?
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Bill Akins
S30 #85
Chicago
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SV Enigma, Sabre 362 #199
Lake Erie @ Sandusky, OH
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Winter storage in or near Cleveland or Sandusky?
Hi all,
Does anyone have a recommendation for winter storage near Cleveland or possibly Sandusky?
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Purchasing a boat on the east coast and will be sailing back to Chicago later this summer assuming the Erie Canal reopens. ?I¡¯m planning on getting as far as Cleveland, storing her there for winter and finishing the trip next summer. ?Or maybe a yard near Sandusky would be less expensive?
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Bill Akins
S30 #85
Chicago
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Re: 426 belt replacement - raw water hose makes it difficult
Yes. I have a Westerbeke. It makes life easier
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On May 19, 2025, at 2:13?PM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
? Joel,
Did you need to use the adapter bracket?
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neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com
¡°Whisper II¡±
S426-034
Salem MA
On May 19, 2025, at 9:54?AM, Joel Greenfield via groups.io <jgz108@...> wrote:
If you need a reference point my 42.6 is stored at Beverly? On May 19, 2025, at 9:42?AM, Joel Greenfield via groups.io <jgz108@...> wrote:
? The belt buddy is a must have!! On May 19, 2025, at 9:34?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
? Continuing the topic a bit - the pulley spreader tool in my bag is too long to fit between the new water pump and alternator pulleys.
I see Balmar sells something called ¡°Belt Buddy¡± that looks like it bolts in place and has a threaded rod that performs the same spreading function - anyone tried this?
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neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com
¡°Whisper II¡±
S426-034
Salem MA
On May 17, 2025, at 12:57?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
That¡¯s kinda what we do but it is a bit easier with the serpentine belt.
Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 17, 2025, at 8:51?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
I plan to be on board tomorrow to install the crank pulley with the M10x20 bolts that I ordered from Amazon. I¡¯ll take a pic or two. I have two belts, 44.5 and 47 inch due to wrong initial order, so if the smaller belt gives me the same issue, I¡¯ll try the larger belt for the heck of it.
Our engine layout is similar to your pic, but coolant tank is port side, and we have no flywheel (?)
I¡¯m beginning to suspect that I purchased an incorrect too short v-belt a couple years ago off a cross referene on someone¡¯s web page.
When our alternator is pushed up against that coolant hose to the left in your pic, my v belt required gentle persuasion with large screwdrivers, not ideal.
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neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com
¡°Whisper II¡±
S426-034
Salem MA
On May 15, 2025, at 9:56?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
Hi Neil, Unfortunately I don¡¯t have any pics of our motor as she looks today, just partial pics. ?I am enclosing a 2003 426 stock Yanmar install. ?This is not our boat but it was how our boat looked when we bought it. I believe the only difference is the overflow tank is on port on Kingfisher. ?We do not have any interference on our engine when changing the belt and we have a serpentine belt. ?Can you post a picture?
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Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 15, 2025, at 9:17?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
Has anyone figured out a good way to move the raw water hose and re attach it when replacing alternator belts on a 426?
The hose literally prevents the alternator (we have 105A Balmar) from moving more than 1/4¡± toward the centerline.
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neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com
¡°Whisper II¡±
S426-034
Salem MA
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Hi everyone,?
I joined the group about a month ago when I nearly had a deal on a S28 (the seller had a change of heart and is holding onto her for the time being), and then last week I just missed out on an S30 that went under contract before I got my offer in. ? ?So I'm back on the market, and thought I'd mention it here. ?If anyone in the northeast has a S28 or S30 they'd like to sell, please let me know!
Ellsworth, ME
Cape Dory 22 "Real Quiet Echo"
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Re: White Gelcoat color code
Jim, Greetings from Chicago! What did you end up doing for gelcoat? Thanks
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Walrus?
S36 #64
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Re: 426 belt replacement - raw water hose makes it difficult
Joel,
Did you need to use the adapter bracket?
¡ª±·±ð¾±±ô
neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com
¡°Whisper II¡±
S426-034
Salem MA
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On May 19, 2025, at 9:54?AM, Joel Greenfield via groups.io <jgz108@...> wrote:
If you need a reference point my 42.6 is stored at Beverly? On May 19, 2025, at 9:42?AM, Joel Greenfield via groups.io <jgz108@...> wrote:
? The belt buddy is a must have!! On May 19, 2025, at 9:34?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
? Continuing the topic a bit - the pulley spreader tool in my bag is too long to fit between the new water pump and alternator pulleys.
I see Balmar sells something called ¡°Belt Buddy¡± that looks like it bolts in place and has a threaded rod that performs the same spreading function - anyone tried this?
¡ª±·±ð¾±±ô
neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com
¡°Whisper II¡±
S426-034
Salem MA
On May 17, 2025, at 12:57?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
That¡¯s kinda what we do but it is a bit easier with the serpentine belt.
Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 17, 2025, at 8:51?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
I plan to be on board tomorrow to install the crank pulley with the M10x20 bolts that I ordered from Amazon. I¡¯ll take a pic or two. I have two belts, 44.5 and 47 inch due to wrong initial order, so if the smaller belt gives me the same issue, I¡¯ll try the larger belt for the heck of it.
Our engine layout is similar to your pic, but coolant tank is port side, and we have no flywheel (?)
I¡¯m beginning to suspect that I purchased an incorrect too short v-belt a couple years ago off a cross referene on someone¡¯s web page.
When our alternator is pushed up against that coolant hose to the left in your pic, my v belt required gentle persuasion with large screwdrivers, not ideal.
¡ª±·±ð¾±±ô
neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com
¡°Whisper II¡±
S426-034
Salem MA
On May 15, 2025, at 9:56?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
Hi Neil, Unfortunately I don¡¯t have any pics of our motor as she looks today, just partial pics. ?I am enclosing a 2003 426 stock Yanmar install. ?This is not our boat but it was how our boat looked when we bought it. I believe the only difference is the overflow tank is on port on Kingfisher. ?We do not have any interference on our engine when changing the belt and we have a serpentine belt. ?Can you post a picture?
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Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 15, 2025, at 9:17?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
Has anyone figured out a good way to move the raw water hose and re attach it when replacing alternator belts on a 426?
The hose literally prevents the alternator (we have 105A Balmar) from moving more than 1/4¡± toward the centerline.
¡ª±·±ð¾±±ô
neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com
¡°Whisper II¡±
S426-034
Salem MA
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Thanks Len!
Sent from my shoephone.
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YAR
1979 Sabre 28 MKII
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Re: impeller access in Westerbeke 35B 3 in Sabre 362
I remove 4 bolts holding water pump. Once water pump removed changing impeller is easy
Larry Davis
1995 362 157
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Re: impeller access in Westerbeke 35B 3 in Sabre 362
My 2003 362 with Westerbeke 35D engine has easy access to front facing impeller from companionway. Bill Graves Marblehead MA
On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 9:21?PM David Lochner via <davelochner= [email protected]> wrote: I thought only Yanmar was foolish enough to face the water pump towards the starter.?
Use a Zip Tie to compress the vanes on the impeller. Once it is started and partially inserted into the pump housing the zip tie will slide off and impeller slides in.
Dave Second Star S362 #113 Fair Haven, NY/Lake Ontario
On May 18, 2025, at 8:53?PM, Paul Kirshen via <paul.kirshen= [email protected]> wrote:
hi - my water pump impeller is just forward of my starter, facing aft,? on the port side of my 1995 Sabre 362. Without removing the starter, hell to even get the cover off of the casing let alone remove the impeller. Is there an easier way to inspect/replace the impeller than removing the starter to get reasonable access ??
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Tx
Paul
Pegasus
Padanaram MA
-- Bill Graves
S362 #261 Souwester
Marblehead, MA
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Re: 426 belt replacement - raw water hose makes it difficult
Looks very familiar!
Allison LehmanSwiftsure Yachtsallison@...Cell: 510.912.5800Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 19, 2025, at 6:00?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
New belt went on much easier than the old v-belt. I¡¯m convinced I ordered a too-small replacement belt a couple years ago, that caused the issue with the cooling hose. The alternator body was literally pressed against the coolant hose to the left of the alternator, with the v-belt on there.
FYI - the three bolts on the crank adapter are M10-1.5, 20 mm, 12.9 hardened steel.
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neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com
¡°Whisper II¡±
S426-034
Salem MA
On May 17, 2025, at 12:57?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
That¡¯s kinda what we do but it is a bit easier with the serpentine belt.
Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 17, 2025, at 8:51?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
I plan to be on board tomorrow to install the crank pulley with the M10x20 bolts that I ordered from Amazon. I¡¯ll take a pic or two. I have two belts, 44.5 and 47 inch due to wrong initial order, so if the smaller belt gives me the same issue, I¡¯ll try the larger belt for the heck of it.
Our engine layout is similar to your pic, but coolant tank is port side, and we have no flywheel (?)
I¡¯m beginning to suspect that I purchased an incorrect too short v-belt a couple years ago off a cross referene on someone¡¯s web page.
When our alternator is pushed up against that coolant hose to the left in your pic, my v belt required gentle persuasion with large screwdrivers, not ideal.
¡ª±·±ð¾±±ô
neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com
¡°Whisper II¡±
S426-034
Salem MA
On May 15, 2025, at 9:56?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
Hi Neil, Unfortunately I don¡¯t have any pics of our motor as she looks today, just partial pics. ?I am enclosing a 2003 426 stock Yanmar install. ?This is not our boat but it was how our boat looked when we bought it. I believe the only difference is the overflow tank is on port on Kingfisher. ?We do not have any interference on our engine when changing the belt and we have a serpentine belt. ?Can you post a picture?
<IMG_2687.jpeg>
Allison Lehman
Swiftsure Yachts
allison@...
Cell: 510.912.5800
Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 15, 2025, at 9:17?AM, Neil Russell via groups.io <neil.e.russell@...> wrote:
Has anyone figured out a good way to move the raw water hose and re attach it when replacing alternator belts on a 426?
The hose literally prevents the alternator (we have 105A Balmar) from moving more than 1/4¡± toward the centerline.
¡ª±·±ð¾±±ô
neil dot e dot russell at gmail.com
¡°Whisper II¡±
S426-034
Salem MA
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Re: impeller access in Westerbeke 35B 3 in Sabre 362
Not sure if its standard but my ¡¯94 632 has an access panel in the shower compartment. Makes it a bit easier.
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Liz Baylis
Eric Wagner
Peter
Bill Akins
Susan Jenks
Peter S. Jackson Sabre 28-2 #443 Yar Port Washington, NY
LarryDavis
Bill Graves
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