On Apr 30, 2025, at 12:58?PM, Jim Starkey via groups.io <Jim@...> wrote:

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ABYC, reasonably, requires seacocks on all though hulls, but I'd bet it was because they didn't want to draw a line between required and optional.? I don't think there is any conceivable failure mode of the short hoses between the aft cockpit drains and the seacocks/through-hulls.? Among the things that I'd worry about, those seacocks are near the bottom on the list.

Joe, congratulations if you were able to operate those seacocks.? If you had asked, I might have confessed that I don't remember ever servicing them (note: I was not the seller).? All the others, sure, and I may still have the scars to prove it.

My current boat has all ball valves.? I don't miss cone-type seacocks on little bit.? I rate them up with manila line, cotton sails, and hanked on headsails.

On 4/30/2025 12:32 PM, Joe Cleary via groups.io wrote:

On my S36 it is not easy to get into the aft lazarettes but it is possible. I can reach all the stuff I store in there from the cockpit, so I empty it before climbing in. Port side has more clearance at the opening due to engine control panel on starboard side. The box enclosing the steering quadrant does not obstruct the Spartan seacock handles. I just tested this today, I can climb in port side, close the seacock, then essentially lie on top of the box and reach and close starboard seacock. If you actually need to remove the box to reach the handles on your boat, you may want to modify the box.

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Also, the dog ears on the seacock handles are not that robust. An extension on the handle would allow even more force on those dog ears if the valve is a bit stuck, which may just break the handle.

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Joe Cleary

Kestrel? -??S36 #54? -??Boston

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Jim Starkey, AmorphousDB, LLC