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Re: 362 Rudder Bearing Replacement


 

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a lot like Delrin

On 4/6/2025 11:52 AM, Michael Sterling via groups.io wrote:

The drawing attached earlier called for UHMW, which is " ultra high molecular weight polyethylene ".
A hard slippery plastic.?
Mike
s/v Ladylike?


Michael Sterling
Ph. 252-646-9610


On Sun, Apr 6, 2025, 11:49?AM Roger Kuebel 362#150 Padanaram, MA via <rogerkuebel=[email protected]> wrote:
Does anyone know what material the Tides bearings are made from?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via <dhs.short=[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 10:19 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SabreSailboat] 362 Rudder Bearing Replacement

yes
Attached is bearing drawing

Rudder Bearing Replacement -- Labor to: measure rudder tube, bearings, rudder shaft, send information to bearing manufacturer and owner. Order two new bearings and one thrust bearing washer. Prep interior surface of rudder tube in worn areas, then apply 3 coats of Pettit Protect (2 part epoxy paint) to make rudder tube smaller and fit new bearing snug. Fill/ fair bottom edge of bearing flange for smooth finish surface. Install new bearings with thickened epoxy (from bottom and top), and fit rudder shaft into place. Align Rudder with trailing edge of keel prior to epoxy hardening. Reassemble rudder quadrant and tension steering cables.
16.5 hr @ $55.00?? $907.50
Color Restoring & Waxing Hull -- Labor to: tape off bottom paint, and preform an efficient process of applying compound and power buff/ wax topsides of the hull. Hand wipe to remove excess wax and remove tape.?
7.25 hr @ $53.00?? $384.25

On 4/6/2025 10:04 AM, Roger Kuebel 362#150 Padanaram, MA via wrote:
Dave,
Did Tides make your new ones?
Roger Kuebel

Restless

S362#150

Padanaram, MA

From: [email protected] <[email protected]>?on behalf of David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via <dhs.short@...>
Date: Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 10:01 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SabreSailboat] 362 Rudder Bearing Replacement

Boyz

1. My yard epoxied the bearings in but I share Roger's concern about if they ever have to come out again.? Except, at my age for better or worse, not likely my problem.? Sailing in deep Maine waters, not a lot of sediment get kicked up.? Yard said they were installed with a parsimonious amount of 5200.? The bottom one had come loose (crossing Gulf of Maine to Nova Scotia of course), that's what alerted me to problem.
I believe my boat spent some of its early life in dirty water (. . .. .oh Boston your my home).? Damage photo below.


2. I would check with Tides on the fit.? Mine were not tight.


On 4/6/2025 9:45 AM, Roger Kuebel 362#150 Padanaram, MA via wrote:
Barry,
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Attached are the specs for the bearing.? I got this from Glen Chaplin at Sabre.? The photos I referred to are the ones Dave Short sent.? As you saw in Dave's photos, the lower bearing is mounted flush with the hull, and was epoxied in.? Tides Marine, who made my bearings (and I believe also made the originals) also said to epoxy them in.? However, my original ones were installed with 5200, which is what Glen also said for the replacements.? My inclination is to use 5200, as once epoxied I don't think they could be removed without damage to the hull tube.?
?
As noted in my prior post on the topic, I am having an issue with the bearings being really tight on the rudder post.? Yesterday I sanded the rudder post to ensure it was perfectly smooth, and although I could get the bearings on by warming them slightly, once they cooled to the ambient temp (mid 40s here on the MA south coast) they became so tight I could not turn them by hand.? I'm still trying to figure out what to do.
--
Roger Kuebel
Restless
S362#150
Padanaram, MA


--
Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME

--
Roger Kuebel
Restless
S362#150
Padanaram, MA


--
Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME

--
Roger Kuebel
Restless
S362#150
Padanaram, MA


--
Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME

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