Allstar Node died 24 hours after SHARI Pi3V install
Not sure what happened.? Running a Pi3B+ Allstar node that I built last year, been running fine as a radio-less node.? Finally got a SHARI to add the radio interface.? I followed the instructions step by step and got the SHARI working fine with all of my HTs.? I did do the the software update to the node and went from there.
Suddenly, after about 24 hours of operation, I cannot log into my Allstar node from any device, wired or wifi, even after multiple restarts. It stopped registering, node #54609.? Before I wipe the SD card and start over (I don't know what else to do), is there anything else I can do or check?? I don't want to end up in the same place.? I am using the same power supply purchased with the PI kit from day one, the node powers up ( I can see the red light) and the SHARI powers up, green light lit.? But no other node activity.
Thanks for any thoughts you can provide.
73,
Rich, AA3RC
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Re: Musings of a Mad (aka Insane) Allstar Node Owner
Dan,?W4DTO:
This was a great post to read. Thanks for posting it.
While not a PiHat, I love my SHARIs.
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Musings of a Mad (aka Insane) Allstar Node Owner
I have had an Allstar Node (43286) connected to my local repeater for some time now, and it developed a problem (which was caused by its owner) a few weeks back.? I decided I needed a personal node here at my QTH to help me troubleshoot this and any other problems. ?I’ve had one.? Took it apart and used the pieces for something else.? And, I didn’t want to pull everything back together. ? So, I ordered a SHARI PiHat.? I chose the option of having the radio pre-soldered to the board out of pure laziness.? No reason I couldn’t have done that myself, and I kind of wish I had.? I received the kit yesterday and spent a couple of hours reviewing the documentation and putting it together.?? Other than the fact that I couldn’t drill a hole in the right spot to save my life, it was one of the easiest builds I’ve ever done. The 3d printed template for drilling the holes was so cool (even though I seem to be dimensionally challenged when it comes to drilling holes).? I love the case.? Best one I’ve seen for a Pi (I’ve seen many). It does seem to function as a rather good heat sink. The LED light block is a great idea. The build quality of the board seems superb. ? The instructions were ALMOST spot on.? They were clear. They were complete. They were easy to follow.? The only criticism I could give on them is that the version I used (from the files folder on Groups.IO) included configuring the boot up options for the serial port and downloading the app to control the radio.? I found that in the version of the image I downloaded (using the link in the documentation) those steps were already complete.? No problem at all.? Just something that could be reviewed in a future release.? Maybe I didn’t use the latest version of the document. ? It’s rare in the ham radio community to find a project like this that is so well built AND that has such great documentation. ?Kudos to the developer of this thing and all who have contributed! ? 73
Dan
W4DTO
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Thank you, Steve.? I will give it a try, see what I can do and will report back on the outcome.
Best regards,
Doug?
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Hi Steve,
Screenshots attached.
Regards,
Doug
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Doug,
The best way to do what you want to do is the add Analog_Reflector
to your DVSwitch Server.
What I would do is
add and configure AR to work on your DVSwitch Server. Once that
works, you can add your AllStar node. Take it slow and UNDERSTAND
what the parts do. The last step will be to connect the AllStar node
to the DVSwitch Server.
Steve?
On 7/9/22 09:48, Doug VE3XDB wrote:
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Hello Steve,
I just sent the requested screenshots.? Thanks for the
clarification on node 1999.? If it is not being used, then the
process should be simpler.? On the DVSM Account screen, 52993 is
being used.? For your information, I have attached my
extensions.conf, rpt.conf and iax.conf files, edited to remove my
password.?
Regards,
Doug
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That's not it. It the string that shows up when I put
55178 in Supermon and hit Lookup. It also shows
right of the node number in Supermon.
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On 2022-07-09 14:46, Billy Mason wrote: /srv/http/supermon/global.inc
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Billy Mason, KD5KNR
GMRS: WRPA703
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Scott, KB3JQQ via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2022 13:09
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SHARI] ID string location
I'm having a serious brain phart.
I can't find the file with the string that shows up in Supermon and other locations that has my location.
What .conf file is it in?
I've looked in the set up directions many times.
TIA.
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/srv/http/supermon/global.inc
--
Billy Mason, KD5KNR
GMRS: WRPA703
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Scott, KB3JQQ via groups.io Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2022 13:09 To: [email protected]Subject: [SHARI] ID string location I'm having a serious brain phart. I can't find the file with the string that shows up in Supermon and other locations that has my location. What .conf file is it in? I've looked in the set up directions many times. TIA. -- -- Billy Mason KD5KNR
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I'm having a serious brain phart.
I can't find the file with the string that shows up in
Supermon and other locations that has my location.
What .conf file is it in?
I've looked in the set up directions many times.
TIA.
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Hello Steve,
I just sent the requested screenshots.? Thanks for the clarification on node 1999.? If it is not being used, then the process should be simpler.? On the DVSM Account screen, 52993 is being used.? For your information, I have attached my extensions.conf, rpt.conf and iax.conf files, edited to remove my password.?
Regards,
Doug
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In summary:
- I believe that node 1999 is being accessed for Allstar and
Echolink by Android devices using DVSM.? I believe this is
indicated by the fact that there is no semicolon in front of the
dahdi/pseudo rxchannel in the 1999 stanza in rpt.conf. No,
this tells me node 1999 is not used. In a earlier post you
mentioned editing iax.conf and extension.conf? The
screenshot I requested will show this.
- Node 52993 is being accessed for Allstar and Echolink by my
analog radio, using rxchannel SimpleUSB.? Agreed
- DVSM is being used on the Android devices to access the
Allstar node, using an IAX2 account.? Which node number??
- DVSM is being used on the Android devices to access the
DVSwitch server, using a USRP account. OK
- Node 52993 is being accessed for Allstar and Echolink by an
analog radio using SimpleUSB.
- The DVSwitch server and the Allstar node are on different
Raspberry Pi's.?
- I would like to be able to access DMR using my analog radio.
Once we determine the actual status of 1999 we can proceed.
On 7/9/22 07:16, Steve Zingman wrote:
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post a screen shot of the account on DVSM used to access the node.
On 7/8/22 22:00, Doug VE3XDB wrote:
Hi Steve,
Thanks so much for sticking with me!? I really appreciate it.?
I think what I am trying to do is even simpler that what you
describe.? I already have access to the digital modes using DVSM
through the DVSwitch server.? Only need the digital
modes available on 52993, so that I can access DMR using my
analog radio.? Not sure of the best approach.? I was
going to try to set up another node (call it 1000) as a bridge
to access DMR on the analog radio, as I believe 1999 is being
used to connect the Android devices to the node.? Was not sure
of the implications of doing that, since I am already using a
USRP connection from DVSM to the DVSwitch server.
In summary:
- I believe that node 1999 is being accessed for Allstar and
Echolink by Android devices using DVSM.? I believe this is
indicated by the fact that there is no semicolon in front of
the dahdi/pseudo rxchannel in the 1999 stanza in rpt.conf.
- Node 52993 is being accessed for Allstar and Echolink by
my analog radio, using rxchannel SimpleUSB. ?
- DVSM is being used on the Android devices to access the
Allstar node, using an IAX2 account. ?
- DVSM is being used on the Android devices to access the
DVSwitch server, using a USRP account.
- Node 52993 is being accessed for Allstar and Echolink by
an analog radio using SimpleUSB.
- The DVSwitch server and the Allstar node are on different
Raspberry Pi's.?
- I would like to be able to access DMR using my analog
radio.?
Hope this makes sense.? Sorry if I haven't been clear.
Thanks again.
Regards,
Doug VE3XDB
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post a screen shot of the account on DVSM used to access the node.
On 7/8/22 22:00, Doug VE3XDB wrote:
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Hi Steve,
Thanks so much for sticking with me!? I really appreciate it.?
I think what I am trying to do is even simpler that what you
describe.? I already have access to the digital modes using DVSM
through the DVSwitch server.? Only need the digital modes
available on 52993, so that I can access DMR using my analog
radio.? Not sure of the best approach.? I was going to
try to set up another node (call it 1000) as a bridge to access
DMR on the analog radio, as I believe 1999 is being used to
connect the Android devices to the node.? Was not sure of the
implications of doing that, since I am already using a USRP
connection from DVSM to the DVSwitch server.
In summary:
- I believe that node 1999 is being accessed for Allstar and
Echolink by Android devices using DVSM.? I believe this is
indicated by the fact that there is no semicolon in front of
the dahdi/pseudo rxchannel in the 1999 stanza in rpt.conf.
- Node 52993 is being accessed for Allstar and Echolink by my
analog radio, using rxchannel SimpleUSB. ?
- DVSM is being used on the Android devices to access the
Allstar node, using an IAX2 account. ?
- DVSM is being used on the Android devices to access the
DVSwitch server, using a USRP account.
- Node 52993 is being accessed for Allstar and Echolink by an
analog radio using SimpleUSB.
- The DVSwitch server and the Allstar node are on different
Raspberry Pi's.?
- I would like to be able to access DMR using my analog
radio.?
Hope this makes sense.? Sorry if I haven't been clear.
Thanks again.
Regards,
Doug VE3XDB
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Hi Steve, Thanks so much for sticking with me!? I really appreciate it.? I think what I am trying to do is even simpler that what you describe.? I already have access to the digital modes using DVSM through the DVSwitch server.? Only need the digital modes available on 52993, so that I can access DMR using my analog radio.? Not sure of the best approach.? I was going to try to set up another node (call it 1000) as a bridge to access DMR on the analog radio, as I believe 1999 is being used to connect the Android devices to the node.? Was not sure of the implications of doing that, since I am already using a USRP connection from DVSM to the DVSwitch server. In summary:
- I believe that node 1999 is being accessed for Allstar and Echolink by Android devices using DVSM.? I believe this is indicated by the fact that there is no semicolon in front of the dahdi/pseudo rxchannel in the 1999 stanza in rpt.conf.
- Node 52993 is being accessed for Allstar and Echolink by my analog radio, using rxchannel SimpleUSB. ?
- DVSM is being used on the Android devices to access the Allstar node, using an IAX2 account. ?
- DVSM is being used on the Android devices to access the DVSwitch server, using a USRP account.
- Node 52993 is being accessed for Allstar and Echolink by an analog radio using SimpleUSB.
- The DVSwitch server and the Allstar node are on different Raspberry Pi's.?
- I would like to be able to access DMR using my analog radio.?
Hope this makes sense.? Sorry if I haven't been clear. Thanks again. Regards, Doug VE3XDB
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We do not have a technical contact at NiceRF.? Our "sale" person passes our technical issues on to "my engineer".? Because of the language difference, it is very difficult to get them to fix obvious problems which are easy to describe.??
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Don't worry about diagrams. Define in words what you are trying to
accomplish.
So, is this correct?
Now you want to add the digital modes, and make the digital modes
available to 52993 and DVSM?
On 7/8/22 16:09, Doug VE3XDB wrote:
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Hello Steve,
Thanks again for your response.? I'm no expert, but I think it is
working like this.? My node is 52993, and is allowing my analog
radio to access Allstar and Echolink using SimpleUSB.? I am also
able to access Allstar and Echolink using my Android devices.? I
think it is using node 1999 and Dahdi/pseudo.? On the DVSwitch
server side, I am able to use my Android devices to access the
digital modes.? My desired state is to add the capability to
access the digital modes using my analog radio. ?
I've attached a crude drawing of how I THINK it is working, and
showing how I wish to enhance it.? I don't mind running the two
Raspberry Pi's, but it would be fine if I had to put everything on
one Pi, or use another Pi.? Hardware isn't an issue. ??
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Stephen, Yes, that’s exactly the way it is behaving. It is really unfortunate that the RX tone squelch doesn’t behave like most other radios. We’ve invested in this nice compact solution for repeater linking and now it appears that we’ll need to scrap it and build a mobile radio based solution. Do you know who would be a technical interface for the SA818 (and contact info)? Tom / K5TRA ?
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Hello Steve,
Thanks again for your response.? I'm no expert, but I think it is working like this.? My node is 52993, and is allowing my analog radio to access Allstar and Echolink using SimpleUSB.? I am also able to access Allstar and Echolink using my Android devices.? I think it is using node 1999 and Dahdi/pseudo.? On the DVSwitch server side, I am able to use my Android devices to access the digital modes.? My desired state is to add the capability to access the digital modes using my analog radio. ?
I've attached a crude drawing of how I THINK it is working, and showing how I wish to enhance it.? I don't mind running the two Raspberry Pi's, but it would be fine if I had to put everything on one Pi, or use another Pi.? Hardware isn't an issue. ??
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Tom, ? Sorry the response bugged you. Sometimes? the news you hear is not what you wanted to hear. I gave you that answer based on experience that I have had with the SA818 modules. As Steve N8AR explained the issue is in the firmware of the SA818 mfg by NICE. Let me know how you make out with getting NICE to change that. ? Rich ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of McGrath, Kevin
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SHARI] #CTCSS_CDCSS RX tone squelch? I have spare Kenwood and ICOM radios kicking around, and I still wanted the Shari vs the URI. It wasn’t an issue of price, it was an issue of having an integrated solution, rather than cabling running every which way.? I have professional-grade SDR hardware I was using for this (an Ettus USRP, not to be confused with the USRP channel driver for DVswitch) that I replaced with the Shari hardware. Partly because I wanted to use the USRP for something else, and partly to eliminate the cabling and power wires.? Sometimes the integrated solution matters. Especially in a mobile installation like I use.? Sorry, not directly related, but this response bugged me. I'm all for people having differing opinions, and we all have preferences in this regard. But “buy new hardware” isn't the most helpful response. We are all trying to push the limits of what can be done with inexpensive hardware. It is about the hobby, not the money, for some of us.? Forgive if I've responded out of turn here, but I feel very strongly about this one.?
On Jul 7, 2022, at 21:02, WA2ZPX via groups.io <WA2ZPX@...> wrote: ? [This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.] Tom, ? I have experienced the same behavior. I believe it is because of the cheap nature of the SA818 module.? My suggestion is to either purchase a DMK or other board, or modify a sound card and use something like a Motorola CDM of this application.? ? Rich ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 6:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SHARI] #CTCSS_CDCSS RX tone squelch ? We have a Shari Pi hat half-duplex node that is intended for linking a UHF repeater.? The repeater only transmits PL when receiving a signal with PL present; so, the repeater hangtime should be eliminated into the node when no PL is incoming. The Shari responds properly when receiving a signal with PL. The Shari also properly does not respond to a signal without PL.
The problem is: when the link is keyed from a signal (from repeater output) with PL and then the PL stops (repeater user stops transmitting). The Shari receiver should squelch it's receiver (due to no PL); but the carrier seems to be enough to keep the squelch open. This seems to be a bug in the receiver squelch.
Tom / K5TRA
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Just to be clear.? The firmware in the SA818 is proprietary to NiceRF so we can not change it.? The only programming of the SA818 that we can do is descrbed in the SA818 programming manual which is in the FIles section of this group. /g/SHARI/files/SA818%20programming%20manual.pdf
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Dan Ozment
Steve N4IRS
Scott, KB3JQQ
Billy Mason, KD5KNR
Steve-N8AR
Tom
