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Re: Did I Buy the Wrong Units? #SHARI_PiXX_Differences

Chris Smart
 

I noticed that when ordering, and ordered the appropriate PI.

On 5/23/2020 9:27 AM, Darrell Black wrote:
Hi Steve, there are four versions of the SHARI. UHF/VHF for the PI3 and UHF/VHF for the PI4.


Darrell - 73 de W8DSB

"In God we trust, all others we monitor"




On May 23, 2020, at 09:22, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:


Re: Did I Buy the Wrong Units? #SHARI_PiXX_Differences

Darrell Black
 

Hi Steve, there are four versions of the SHARI. UHF/VHF for the PI3 and UHF/VHF for the PI4.


Darrell - 73 de W8DSB

"In God we trust, all others we monitor"

On May 23, 2020, at 09:22, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:


Did I Buy the Wrong Units? #SHARI_PiXX_Differences

 

I bought, and am very happy with, two pre-built nodes, one each for VHf and UHF, and they appear to be specifically for the Pi 3. I own a Pi 4. While both units work perfectly, did I buy the wrong ones, or is it only the configuration and location of the USB ports that differentiate the two units, if indeed there actually *are* two units--one for the 3 and one for the 4?


Re: blind shari user needs help

 

Neil, I did some poking around in allstar (HAMVOIP version) and found these two files. This is from a allstar node that has a working SHARI attached. Maybe you can compare to your files and see if the URI setup has one of these parameters set in a way that the USB does not work for the SHARI. If all else fails, make a new SDcard and start over. I build portable Allstar nodes every day to play with different options. I have it down to about 10 minutes from making the SDcard to a running node.

file?/etc/asterisk/simpleusb_tune_usb.conf
[usb]
; name=usb
; devicenum=0
devstr=1-1.1.3:1.0
rxmixerset=450
txmixaset=500
txmixbset=0
txdsplvl=999

file?/etc/asterisk/simpleusb.conf
[usb]
?
;?
?
?
eeprom=0
; 1 = Indicates that an EEPROM internal to the radio
;? ? ?adapter and cable is expected.?
; 0 = no warning message if no EEPROM found.
?
rxboost=0
; Rx Audio Boost
; 0 = 20db attenuator inserted?
; 1 = 20db attenuator removed
; Set to 1 for additonal gain if using a low-level
; receiver output.
?
carrierfrom=usbinvert
; Options - no,usb,usbinvert?
; no - no carrier detection at all
; usb - via USB radio adapter COR connection
; usbinvert - same as above but inverted polarity.
?
ctcssfrom=no
; CTCSS Decoder Source
; Options = no,usb,dsp
; no - CTCSS decoding, system will be carrier squelch
; usb - CTCSS decoding using input from USB adapter?
; usbinvert - same as above but inverted polarity.
?
invertptt=0
; Invert PTT 0 = ground to transmit, 1 = open to
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; transmit
?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; This is the collector lead of the 2n4401 on the?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; modified usb sound fob.
?
plfilter=no
; enable PL filter
; yes, enabled
; no, disabled
?
deemphasis=yes
; enable de-emphasis (input from discriminator)
; yes, enabled
; no, disabled
?
preemphasis=yes
; enable pre-emphasis (output to Tx)
; yes, enabled
; no, disabled
?
rxaudiodelay=0
; default value is 0
; rx audio delay for squelch tail elimination.
; Squelch tail delay in 20ms frames. Values range
; from? 0 (no delay) to 24 (480ms delay)
; Typical values would range from 5-10 (100-200ms)


Re: blind shari user needs help

Neil k8it
 

This was a fully assembled and programmed Sherry and it appears to be working based on what I could find from a play space Dash L & LSUSB

Sent with . Please excuse any dictation errors.

On 21 May 2020 22:10, "Darrell Black" wrote:

Neil, did you buy the fully assembled device or did you purchase it as a kit? I only ask because if it¡¯s a kit maybe the USB connector is not soldier correctly causing it not to be detected by Allstar.

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 21:43 Neil k8it <k8it@...> wrote:
I am still looking for help on how to get to Sherry to be excepted by the Allstar software for anybody like we would like to help me I would greatly appreciate the help and yes I have been rebuilding

Sent with . Please excuse any dictation errors.

On 20 May 2020 14:37, "Brad Trogdon" wrote:

Plug in SHARI and reboot. It should then detect You cannot hot swap.

-Brad

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:34 PM Neil k8it <k8it@...> wrote:
I am trying to upgrade from a uri to a new shari. simpleusb-tune-menu does not detect it. id is -1 aplay -l and lsusb do see it. when I plug in the uri again eeverything works fine.
please help
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479

--

Darrell Black

(517) 917-2226
GigaHacker@...



73 de W8DSB
"In God we trust, all others we monitor"

GMRS WRDE739


Re: blind shari user needs help

Darrell Black
 

Neil, did you buy the fully assembled device or did you purchase it as a kit? I only ask because if it¡¯s a kit maybe the USB connector is not soldier ?correctly causing it not to be detected by Allstar.

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 21:43 Neil k8it <k8it@...> wrote:
I am still looking for help on how to get to Sherry to be excepted by the Allstar software for anybody like we would like to help me I would greatly appreciate the help and yes I have been rebuilding

Sent with . Please excuse any dictation errors.

On 20 May 2020 14:37, "Brad Trogdon" wrote:

Plug in SHARI and reboot. It should then detect You cannot hot swap.

-Brad

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:34 PM Neil k8it <k8it@...> wrote:
I am trying to upgrade from a uri to a new shari. simpleusb-tune-menu does not detect it. id is -1 aplay -l and lsusb do see it. when I plug in the uri again eeverything works fine.
please help
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479

--

Darrell Black

(517) 917-2226
GigaHacker@...



73 de W8DSB
"In God we trust, all others we monitor"

GMRS WRDE739


Re: blind shari user needs help

Neil k8it
 

I am still looking for help on how to get to Sherry to be excepted by the Allstar software for anybody like we would like to help me I would greatly appreciate the help and yes I have been rebuilding

Sent with . Please excuse any dictation errors.

On 20 May 2020 14:37, "Brad Trogdon" wrote:

Plug in SHARI and reboot. It should then detect You cannot hot swap.

-Brad

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:34 PM Neil k8it <k8it@...> wrote:
I am trying to upgrade from a uri to a new shari. simpleusb-tune-menu does not detect it. id is -1 aplay -l and lsusb do see it. when I plug in the uri again eeverything works fine.
please help
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479


Re: blind shari user needs help

Neil k8it
 

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I always reboot
?
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky? K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SHARI] blind shari user needs help

Plug in SHARI and reboot.? It should then detect ? You cannot hot swap.?

-Brad

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:34 PM Neil k8it <k8it@...> wrote:
I am trying to upgrade from a uri to a new shari. simpleusb-tune-menu does not detect it. id is -1? aplay -l and lsusb do see it. when I plug in the uri again eeverything works fine.
please help
?
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky? K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479


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Re: blind shari user needs help

Brad Trogdon
 

Plug in SHARI and reboot.? It should then detect ? You cannot hot swap.?

-Brad

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:34 PM Neil k8it <k8it@...> wrote:
I am trying to upgrade from a uri to a new shari. simpleusb-tune-menu does not detect it. id is -1? aplay -l and lsusb do see it. when I plug in the uri again eeverything works fine.
please help
?
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky? K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479


blind shari user needs help

Neil k8it
 

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I am trying to upgrade from a uri to a new shari. simpleusb-tune-menu does not detect it. id is -1? aplay -l and lsusb do see it. when I plug in the uri again eeverything works fine.
please help
?
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky? K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479


Re: Hum / buzz on signal #Buzz_Interference

 

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Thank you for the recommendation. Since another USB-based charger would never go unused in this house, I got that RAV one, plus a few USB A-to-C cables. I may do the rings thing later, but this sounds like a far better solution anyway.


On 5/20/2020 11:35 AM, David Panscik via groups.io wrote:

You can find a USB linear power supply on Amazon.

Also larger brick style USB switching power supplies tend to have better filtering than the small cubes.? I had noise on a small cube power supply and changed to a larger brick style power supply and it was perfectly quiet.? Ive used this one on VHF Shari and its 100% quiet.





If you want to use a cube power supply and try to quiet it down, you can also order ferrite rings from Amazon.? I put two of these on the USB cable closest to the cube power supply and it cut out 95% of the power supply noise.


Hope this helps.

KN6GUW - David
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 07:23:02 AM PDT, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:


Are either of these cores better than the other? Also, the split ones, I presume they hinge open, you place the wire inside the split cylinder, then close it? If the fit is not super precisely tight, does it matter if the core moves along the cable? Also, does it matter where along the cable a core is placed?


Also, I just looked at the one from Digikey, and the manufcturer'manufacturer's lead time is sixteen weeks. FOUR MONTHS? Really? LOL!


On 5/4/2020 6:33 AM, N8AR wrote:
One of the cores I mentioned isavailable from Mouser.
The split core is available from Digikey??


Re: Hum / buzz on signal #Buzz_Interference

 

You can find a USB linear power supply on Amazon.

Also larger brick style USB switching power supplies tend to have better filtering than the small cubes.? I had noise on a small cube power supply and changed to a larger brick style power supply and it was perfectly quiet.? Ive used this one on VHF Shari and its 100% quiet.





If you want to use a cube power supply and try to quiet it down, you can also order ferrite rings from Amazon.? I put two of these on the USB cable closest to the cube power supply and it cut out 95% of the power supply noise.


Hope this helps.

KN6GUW - David
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 07:23:02 AM PDT, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:


Are either of these cores better than the other? Also, the split ones, I presume they hinge open, you place the wire inside the split cylinder, then close it? If the fit is not super precisely tight, does it matter if the core moves along the cable? Also, does it matter where along the cable a core is placed?


Also, I just looked at the one from Digikey, and the manufcturer'manufacturer's lead time is sixteen weeks. FOUR MONTHS? Really? LOL!


On 5/4/2020 6:33 AM, N8AR wrote:

One of the cores I mentioned isavailable from Mouser.
The split core is available from Digikey??


Re: Hum / buzz on signal #Buzz_Interference

 

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Are either of these cores better than the other? Also, the split ones, I presume they hinge open, you place the wire inside the split cylinder, then close it? If the fit is not super precisely tight, does it matter if the core moves along the cable? Also, does it matter where along the cable a core is placed?


Also, I just looked at the one from Digikey, and the manufcturer'manufacturer's lead time is sixteen weeks. FOUR MONTHS? Really? LOL!


On 5/4/2020 6:33 AM, N8AR wrote:

One of the cores I mentioned isavailable from Mouser.
The split core is available from Digikey??


Re: Added a Receive Audio Output Jack

 
Edited

LM386 is a very versatile chip. Bet you didn't know this! Here's a write-up to convert a LM386 chip into a regen receiver (AM-CW-SSB) that is good to 8mhz.. from EDN magazine. If you want to experiment during lock down..


Sorry, you have to click on "CONTINUE TO SITE"


Re: Adding RTC / enable i2c on SHARI ?

 

Thanks everyone for the link / howto / tips!
RTC is working great.

The scenario (why I wanted a RTC) is due to my SHARI being a "portable" node via a battery pack and my cell hotspot.
It isn't always connected to the hotspot, so it may be days/weeks before it sees the internet.

I agree a RTC isn't "necessary" but one less thing I have to worry about and a fun add-on.

Thanks again...
73
Neil W7FED


Re: Adding RTC / enable i2c on SHARI ?

 

Darrell,
Good point.? For me, the SHARI/RPi are only a hotspot and with no Internet it would do nothing but blink at me.? In the case of a repeater controller, it would still be functioning locally without the internet and would need the correct time.
Now I understand.? Luckily it is easy to incorporate an RTC into a RPi and instructions have been posted.
Thanks,
Tony KB8MVP


Re: Adding RTC / enable i2c on SHARI ?

Darrell Black
 

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Tony, i said the same thing many times. Then our repeater internet went out. The hourly clock was wrong for a few days. It would have been nice to having a working RTC.


Darrell - 73 de W8DSB

"In God we trust, all others we monitor"




On May 17, 2020, at 23:03, Tony Williamitis <twilliamitis@...> wrote:

?Neil,
I am not arguing against it but why add an RTC to an AllStar node?? It has to be connected to the Internet to work and the Linux OS keeps the time update via NTP.
Am I missing something?? I'm pretty new to AllstarLink.
Tony KB8MVP


Re: Added a Receive Audio Output Jack

 

Thanks, Larry.
Perfect little amps for a monitoring speaker.? Crazy that I've been building electronics for 40 years and one of the first circuits I ever built was an LM386 audio amplifier.? Some things have some serious longevity.? Another being the 555 timer.
Great ideas!
Tony KB8MVP


Re: Adding RTC / enable i2c on SHARI ?

 

Neil,
I am not arguing against it but why add an RTC to an AllStar node?? It has to be connected to the Internet to work and the Linux OS keeps the time update via NTP.
Am I missing something?? I'm pretty new to AllstarLink.
Tony KB8MVP


Re: Added a Receive Audio Output Jack

 

Some Ideas to complete your modification.....
LM386 audio amp kit-

or assembled-


Miniature version assembled, may fit inside the Shari.

Got prime?

I'd use this speaker so you have external volume control at speaker......



Then there is this, to impress your ham club buddies at show and tell..


Regards,
Larry W8LM
-ARRL Life Member? -Licensed 54 years.