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Since I started my layout in 1985 it's grown in s
semi orderly way to the present point.? I've managed to add two
medium sized yards,, a passenger staging yard and nearly doubled
the trackage and turnouts too.? All this has been challenging
and rewarding in sometimes reverse order!?
Over the weekend, I started to make some minor
changes but of course, they all involve making sawdust and
rerouting the 110V wiring.? I don't know what you guys have used
but I seem to have many outlet strips.? None of the uses need
heavy wiring but I did wiring for 20 amps.? But over these years
I probably have 15+ outlet strips.? These are the ones typically
have a half dozen branch outlets, a surge protector, and often
some phone connectors all in one plastic box with slotted
mounting 'holes'.? Obviously I don't use the phone outlets so
that area is wasted real estate for my use.? Then those 6-8
outlets are too close as in today's world many have wall wart
transformer that block additional outlets to the point that only
two plugs can be used.? Next, those hidden slotted mounting
holes take tolls on one's patience,? So I've spent countless
hours rerouting them to make life easier--so far mostly a fut al
attempt!?
So with that in mind, I've got just a bit more to
do in one corner of the room, then it's time for a small glass
of wine--join me? ? Okay two glasses!
Bob Werre
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Bob, ? I hear you on the wall warts. Something like this might help: ? Roger Nulton ?
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Subject: [S-Scale] bone to pick!? Since I started my layout in 1985 it's grown in s semi orderly way to the present point.? I've managed to add two medium sized yards,, a passenger staging yard and nearly doubled the trackage and turnouts too.? All this has been challenging and rewarding in sometimes reverse order!? Over the weekend, I started to make some minor changes but of course, they all involve making sawdust and rerouting the 110V wiring.? I don't know what you guys have used but I seem to have many outlet strips.? None of the uses need heavy wiring but I did wiring for 20 amps.? But over these years I probably have 15+ outlet strips.? These are the ones typically have a half dozen branch outlets, a surge protector, and often some phone connectors all in one plastic box with slotted mounting 'holes'.? Obviously I don't use the phone outlets so that area is wasted real estate for my use.? Then those 6-8 outlets are too close as in today's world many have wall wart transformer that block additional outlets to the point that only two plugs can be used.? Next, those hidden slotted mounting holes take tolls on one's patience,? So I've spent countless hours rerouting them to make life easier--so far mostly a fut al attempt!? So with that in mind, I've got just a bit more to do in one corner of the room, then it's time for a small glass of wine--join me? ? Okay two glasses! Bob Werre PhotoTraxx
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What helps is to install a number of the 6 ft. long multi-receptacle power strips.? But this is at least some amount of electrical work.? You may still end up with some number of small surge-protector type stripes, but it should be much neater.? You can also plug a number of the 6 plug rigid adapters into the power strip receptacles.? You will minimize or reduce dangling wires.
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Roger,? those long strips are good.? I
actually once had a client that made equipment for recording
studios, rock bands etc.? Their strips were the best, but they
cost a likewise amount.? The items are still sold under their
Brand as Juice Goose, but another name of Sweetwater sells the
same stuff==about 200 per unit.? I probably could have obtained a
couple strips on the cheap back then!?
Anyway I'm finally enjoying some fruit
of the vine this evening; I ended up cutting out two strips so
that helps a bit.? My fairly small work table uses 4 of those
strips but streamlining is a chore for another day.?
Bob Werre
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Bob,
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I hear
you on the wall warts. Something like this might help:
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Roger
Nulton
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Since I started my layout in
1985 it's grown in s semi orderly way to the present point.?
I've managed to add two medium sized yards,, a passenger
staging yard and nearly doubled the trackage and turnouts
too.? All this has been challenging and rewarding in
sometimes reverse order!?
Over the weekend, I started to
make some minor changes but of course, they all involve
making sawdust and rerouting the 110V wiring.? I don't know
what you guys have used but I seem to have many outlet
strips.? None of the uses need heavy wiring but I did wiring
for 20 amps.? But over these years I probably have 15+
outlet strips.? These are the ones typically have a half
dozen branch outlets, a surge protector, and often some
phone connectors all in one plastic box with slotted
mounting 'holes'.? Obviously I don't use the phone outlets
so that area is wasted real estate for my use.? Then those
6-8 outlets are too close as in today's world many have wall
wart transformer that block additional outlets to the point
that only two plugs can be used.? Next, those hidden slotted
mounting holes take tolls on one's patience,? So I've spent
countless hours rerouting them to make life easier--so far
mostly a fut al attempt!?
So with that in mind, I've got
just a bit more to do in one corner of the room, then it's
time for a small glass of wine--join me? ? Okay two glasses!
Bob Werre
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Here is another idea for power strips that may solve someones
need better.
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Ian McKinley
9/2025 1:52 PM, Bob Werre via groups.io
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Since I started my layout in 1985 it's grown in
s semi orderly way to the present point.? I've managed to add
two medium sized yards,, a passenger staging yard and nearly
doubled the trackage and turnouts too.? All this has been
challenging and rewarding in sometimes reverse order!?
Over the weekend, I started to make some minor
changes but of course, they all involve making sawdust and
rerouting the 110V wiring.? I don't know what you guys have
used but I seem to have many outlet strips.? None of the uses
need heavy wiring but I did wiring for 20 amps.? But over
these years I probably have 15+ outlet strips.? These are the
ones typically have a half dozen branch outlets, a surge
protector, and often some phone connectors all in one plastic
box with slotted mounting 'holes'.? Obviously I don't use the
phone outlets so that area is wasted real estate for my use.?
Then those 6-8 outlets are too close as in today's world many
have wall wart transformer that block additional outlets to
the point that only two plugs can be used.? Next, those hidden
slotted mounting holes take tolls on one's patience,? So I've
spent countless hours rerouting them to make life easier--so
far mostly a fut al attempt!?
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Or you could go really overboard:?
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9/2025 1:52 PM, Bob Werre via groups.io wrote:
Since I started my layout in 1985 it's grown in s semi orderly way to the present point.? I've managed to add two medium sized yards,, a passenger staging yard and nearly doubled the trackage and turnouts too.? All this has been challenging
and rewarding in sometimes reverse order!?
Over the weekend, I started to make some minor changes but of course, they all involve making sawdust and rerouting the 110V wiring.? I don't know what you guys have used but I seem to have many outlet strips.? None of the uses need heavy
wiring but I did wiring for 20 amps.? But over these years I probably have 15+ outlet strips.? These are the ones typically have a half dozen branch outlets, a surge protector, and often some phone connectors all in one plastic box with slotted mounting 'holes'.?
Obviously I don't use the phone outlets so that area is wasted real estate for my use.? Then those 6-8 outlets are too close as in today's world many have wall wart transformer that block additional outlets to the point that only two plugs can be used.? Next,
those hidden slotted mounting holes take tolls on one's patience,? So I've spent countless hours rerouting them to make life easier--so far mostly a fut al attempt!?
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Next to my 'empire' is my home brew brewery, so during the mash I
run trains, then during the boil it's back to the empire again. So
no wine for me.
Rich D
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Since I started my layout in 1985 it's grown in
s semi orderly way to the present point.? I've managed to add
two medium sized yards,, a passenger staging yard and nearly
doubled the trackage and turnouts too.? All this has been
challenging and rewarding in sometimes reverse order!?
Over the weekend, I started to make some minor
changes but of course, they all involve making sawdust and
rerouting the 110V wiring.? I don't know what you guys have
used but I seem to have many outlet strips.? None of the uses
need heavy wiring but I did wiring for 20 amps.? But over
these years I probably have 15+ outlet strips.? These are the
ones typically have a half dozen branch outlets, a surge
protector, and often some phone connectors all in one plastic
box with slotted mounting 'holes'.? Obviously I don't use the
phone outlets so that area is wasted real estate for my use.?
Then those 6-8 outlets are too close as in today's world many
have wall wart transformer that block additional outlets to
the point that only two plugs can be used.? Next, those hidden
slotted mounting holes take tolls on one's patience,? So I've
spent countless hours rerouting them to make life easier--so
far mostly a fut al attempt!?
So with that in mind, I've got just a bit more
to do in one corner of the room, then it's time for a small
glass of wine--join me? ? Okay two glasses!
Bob Werre
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Richard,? Back as a kid many Sunday's were spent visiting around to families,? they always seemed to have a wooden barrel of wine only rarely something like beer or whiskey.? No matter how much you prayed in the morning you didn't turn down some good spirits--no matter what kind.
I think most would take up a invitation to visit your layout!
Bob Werre
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Next to my 'empire' is my home brew brewery, so during the mash I run trains, then during the boil it's back to the empire again. So no wine for me.
Rich D
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Probably all the ethnic German and Scandanavian Lutherans in the upper midwest who didn't consider beer an intoxicating beverage but simply a fact of?
normal life.? It was mostly us old Yankees who looked at it askance—but we saw no problem with moderate consumption of hard cider (although usually?
not on Sunday afternoons).
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Richard,? Back as a kid many Sunday's were spent visiting around to
families,? they always seemed to have a wooden barrel of wine only
rarely something like beer or whiskey.? No matter how much you prayed in
the morning you didn't turn down some good spirits--no matter what kind.
I think most would take up a invitation to visit your layout!
Bob Werre
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> Next to my 'empire' is my home brew brewery, so during the mash I run
> trains, then during the boil it's back to the empire again. So no wine
> for me.
>
> Rich D
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In Maine.
Rich D
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On 3/10/2025 11:35 AM, Bob Werre via groups.io wrote: Richard, Back as a kid many Sunday's were spent visiting around to families,? they always seemed to have a wooden barrel of wine only rarely something like beer or whiskey.? No matter how much you prayed in the morning you didn't turn down some good spirits--no matter what kind.
I think most would take up a invitation to visit your layout!
Bob Werre
Next to my 'empire' is my home brew brewery, so during the mash I run trains, then during the boil it's back to the empire again. So no wine for me.
Rich D
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Probably not too far!? I spent two days in Standish at an off season B&B.? I was shooting a web site for a dentist.? I've forgotten the city just down the road, but it was a tourist area with some 2' gauge rail cars on display.
I've also photographed, at a Budweiser brewery a hot area and a chilling area at our local craft brewery?
Bob Werre
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On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 05:49 PM, JGG KahnSr wrote:
Probably all the ethnic German and Scandanavian Lutherans in the upper midwest who didn't consider beer an intoxicating beverage but simply a fact of?
normal life.? It was mostly us old Yankees who looked at it askance—but we saw no problem with moderate consumption of hard cider (although usually?
not on Sunday afternoons).
I live in a dedicated beer region. Franconia has got more beer sorts than inhabitants (felt). In the big cities the majority is Lutheran (as I am). And yeah, this is a part of normal life. After the carnival season (that ended last wednesday, called "Aschermittwoch" in Germany) we are used to substitute normal food with beer (okay, not completely) and it works.
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As this old Yankee Congregationalist told the rector of my wife's (Episcopal) church last Sunday, I consider the entire Lenten business as ecclesiastical self-abuse.
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On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 05:49 PM, JGG KahnSr wrote:
Probably all the ethnic German and Scandanavian Lutherans in the upper midwest who didn't consider beer an intoxicating beverage but simply a fact of?
normal life.? It was mostly us old Yankees who looked at it askance—but we saw no problem with moderate consumption of hard cider (although usually?
not on Sunday afternoons).
I live in a dedicated beer region. Franconia has got more beer sorts than inhabitants (felt). In the big cities the majority is Lutheran (as I am). And yeah, this is a part of normal life. After the carnival season (that ended last wednesday, called "Aschermittwoch"
in Germany) we are used to substitute normal food with beer (okay, not completely) and it works.
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Here in Minnesota, there was a major dust up over the consumption of beer between Archbishop Ireland of the Diocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis who was the head of the Catholic temperance movement in the US and the German Benedictine monks at St. John's Abbey in Collegeville.? ? The monks viewed temperance as an Irish and not an alcohol problem and said so.? Fortunately, under canon law they?were not subject to diocesan?authority.? ?
Michael Fox?
Probably all the ethnic German and Scandanavian Lutherans in the upper midwest who didn't consider beer an intoxicating beverage but simply a fact of?
normal life.? It was mostly us old Yankees who looked at it askance—but we saw no problem with moderate consumption of hard cider (although usually?
not on Sunday afternoons).
Richard,? Back as a kid many Sunday's were spent visiting around to
families,? they always seemed to have a wooden barrel of wine only
rarely something like beer or whiskey.? No matter how much you prayed in
the morning you didn't turn down some good spirits--no matter what kind.
I think most would take up a invitation to visit your layout!
Bob Werre
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> Next to my 'empire' is my home brew brewery, so during the mash I run
> trains, then during the boil it's back to the empire again. So no wine
> for me.
>
> Rich D
>
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When I lived in Berlin, I recall that beer was sold in vending machines on the street along with soda.? ?If I recall correctly, beer was considered by law to be a food product and not drink.
-- Michael Fox?
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Grandma Werre would sip some wine on
those Sunday afternoons with visiting cousins!? However, card
playing, dancing, and TV were frowned upon and the work of the
devil!??? Family was also German, then South Russian/Ukraine, then
Canadian, then the wheat fields of the Dakotas.?
With that in mind, I sport two of the
Downs beer-can tank cars on the layout that might be filled with a
brew despite the lettering on the side!
My dear departed friend and Circuit
Letter director from the 60's called one of his trains--the
Revenuer based on his Kentucky heritage.?
Bob Werre
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Probably all the
ethnic German and Scandanavian Lutherans in the upper
midwest who didn't consider beer an intoxicating beverage
but simply a fact of?
normal life.? It was
mostly us old Yankees who looked at it askance—but we saw no
problem with moderate consumption of hard cider (although
usually?
not on Sunday
afternoons).
I live in a dedicated beer region. Franconia has got more beer
sorts than inhabitants (felt). In the big cities the majority is
Lutheran (as I am). And yeah, this is a part of normal life.
After the carnival season (that ended last wednesday, called
"Aschermittwoch" in Germany) we are used to substitute normal
food with beer (okay, not completely) and it works.
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I think that is customarily written Revenooer?? The Frankfort and Cincinatti—a very modelable Kentucky short line—derived much of its revenue from whiskey distilleries located along its route.
Yes, those pockets of Russianized Germans are a fascinating historical study: recruited by Catherine the Great (a German princess) to improve Russian agriculture, they were promised special privileges, including exemption from conscription into the Tsar's cannon
fodder armies.? By the mid-19th century, the then-Tsar decided he was not bound by his predecessor and started drafting them, at which point they decided Russia no longer suited them.? By that time the primary American (and Canadian) vacant land was the upper
Midwest, which was quite similar to the steppes where they had settled.? They were used to farming in that uncongenial environment and had brought seed that did well there.? A good friend in divinity school was descended from the Volgadeutsch, having grown
up in eastern Colorado, which is much more like Kansas and Nebraska than the Rockies.? One of my predecessors at my last church came from a different group of Russo-Germans, long?
settled in the Dakotas.
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Grandma Werre would sip some wine on those Sunday afternoons with visiting cousins!? However, card playing, dancing, and TV were frowned upon and the work of the devil!??? Family was also German, then South Russian/Ukraine, then
Canadian, then the wheat fields of the Dakotas.?
With that in mind, I sport two of the Downs beer-can tank cars on the layout that might be filled with a brew despite the lettering on the side!
My dear departed friend and Circuit Letter director from the 60's called one of his trains--the Revenuer based on his Kentucky heritage.?
Bob Werre
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 05:49 PM, JGG KahnSr wrote:
Probably all the ethnic German and Scandanavian Lutherans in the upper midwest who didn't consider beer an intoxicating beverage but simply a fact of?
normal life.? It was mostly us old Yankees who looked at it askance—but we saw no problem with moderate consumption of hard cider (although usually?
not on Sunday afternoons).
I live in a dedicated beer region. Franconia has got more beer sorts than inhabitants (felt). In the big cities the majority is Lutheran (as I am). And yeah, this is a part of normal life. After the carnival season (that ended last wednesday, called "Aschermittwoch"
in Germany) we are used to substitute normal food with beer (okay, not completely) and it works.
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An interesting historical note.? Monastics generally report to the head of their order and he/she directly to the Vatican.? Not that the Irish were great beer?
drinkers anyway (perhaps if nothing better was available?), but they were great consumers of poteen (NOT a social beverage and highly addictive), to their?
and their families' detriment, hence the concern of many of their clergy.??
Granted, a generalization from someone with not a drop of Irish blood in his veins, so in no way intended as ethnic criticism.
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Here in Minnesota, there was a major dust up over the consumption of beer between Archbishop Ireland of the Diocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis who was the head of the Catholic temperance movement in the US and the German Benedictine monks at
St. John's Abbey in Collegeville.? ? The monks viewed temperance as an Irish and not an alcohol problem and said so.? Fortunately, under canon law they?were not subject to diocesan?authority.? ?
Michael Fox?
Probably all the ethnic German and Scandanavian Lutherans in the upper midwest who didn't consider beer an intoxicating beverage but simply a fact of?
normal life.? It was mostly us old Yankees who looked at it askance—but we saw no problem with moderate consumption of hard cider (although usually?
not on Sunday afternoons).
Richard,? Back as a kid many Sunday's were spent visiting around to
families,? they always seemed to have a wooden barrel of wine only
rarely something like beer or whiskey.? No matter how much you prayed in
the morning you didn't turn down some good spirits--no matter what kind.
I think most would take up a invitation to visit your layout!
Bob Werre
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> Next to my 'empire' is my home brew brewery, so during the mash I run
> trains, then during the boil it's back to the empire again. So no wine
> for me.
>
> Rich D
>
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Michael
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Roger Nulton