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Does anyone in the group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if American Models will ever replenish their sold out locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Which locomotive are you looking for, we have all kinds of them available?
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Anthony,
What Loco's are you looking for?
Ed Sauers
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 11:41?PM Anthony Salvate via <n1tks= [email protected]> wrote: Does anyone in the group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if American Models will ever replenish their sold out locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Hi Ed, Specifically looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC. Regards, Anthony Salvate
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On Nov 30, 2024, at 7:58?AM, EdSauers via groups.io <Dockside98@...> wrote:
? Anthony,
What Loco's are you looking for?
Ed Sauers On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 11:41?PM Anthony Salvate via <n1tks= [email protected]> wrote: Does anyone in the group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if American Models will ever replenish their sold out locomotive supply?
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Anthony Salvate
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I have spoken with Joe recently.
I asked him about new products. His answer was we have some projects in line.
Asked him about locos. The answer was there is a mix in the works.
You decide
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 11:41 PM, Anthony Salvate via groups.io <n1tks@...> wrote: Does anyone in the group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if American Models will ever replenish their sold out locomotive supply?
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Anthony Salvate
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Since we have brought the subject up, what is the status of the USRA 4-6-2, Empire State Express, Pennsy Torpedo?
Are there any new steam engines being planned?? Is a USRA light 2-8-2 worthwhile, since the AF Flyer one is unacceptable to most in this group.
How does a manufacturer such as American even decide what to make?? ?Maybe much of what is written here does not convert into sales.
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Anthony,? I have a matching pair of
PA's for sale for several months.? From what I can tell, they are
NIB, NYC paint, scale wheels too.? That's what you've asked for!?
Contact me:? Bob@...? for a photo or two if you're
really serious.?
As an aside,? I've often been curious
about how many sets that AM (or SHS, AF or ??) made for sale--gosh
I made those ad photos maybe 10-15 years ago, so that might be a
clue why they were still listed on line just a few weeks ago.?
Eventually things do sell out but if sales are that slow, the need
as been satisfied so not much demand for a 2nd run!? A couple
thousand S scalers are needed for more demand.
I do recall that Tom Marsh of Overland
made three runs of his SD40-2s.? If a 'run' was 100 units and he
produced several variations that I thought should be a decent run
and accomplishment to keep producing a popular product.? I'm sure
that Dan at RR in producing specific steam might not have produced
those numbers but hats off for that effort.? For me he just didn't
make enough UP items, then again I didn't have to buy any
Harriaman style models that could be dressed as UP!? Oh well!?
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx/BBB
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Hi Ed,
Specifically looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC.
Regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Anthony,
What Loco's are you looking for?
Ed Sauers
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at
11:41?PM Anthony Salvate via <n1tks= [email protected]>
wrote:
Does anyone in the
group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if
American Models will ever replenish their sold out
locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:08 AM, Anthony Salvate wrote:
looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC.
Anthony.... I have an American Models ALCO PA-PB-PA diesel lashup for sale.? Was undec, but now custom painted NYC lightning stripes, scale wheels, Kadee couplers, DCC decoders, crew, working diaphragms, test run only.? Will sell as a set, but not individually.? Why not write to me and ask for photos and details.? Thanks.......Ed Loizeaux
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Ed Loizeaux
Los Altos, CA
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:41 AM, John Hutnick wrote:
Is a USRA light 2-8-2 worthwhile, since the AF Flyer one is unacceptable to most in this group.
Of course, I'm in no position to tell AM how to invest in their product line, but I often thought putting a 2-8-2 drive under the Pacific boiler would make a reasonable representation of a USRA Heavy Mike.? Granted the Heavy wasn't as wide spread as the Light, but it would probably be the best "bang for the buck."
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Anthony,? Although my memory has faded somewhat, I believe AM
only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!? And
whether they are PA1 or PA2--who knows?? I also thought that AM
installed 802 Kadee's on scale versions during assembly.? Now SHS
did break up the sets when they were in league with AM for a short
time.? I bought a AB pair but they had just plain individual
cardboard boxes.?
So my suggestion would be to buy either Ed's or my PA sets (I'm
sure both of us will share the wealth between us, should there be
any), chose the unit you want and sell the rest--after all this is
S Scale where our choices can be less than ideal.?
This goes back to what I was just talking about--we don't know
how many units of painted/lettered models have been made, then the
AC/DC/wheel/engine number thing adds more variations.? It's one
thing to buy a raw brass model, but a decorated model is a
different story.? My guess would be a few dozen sets at best were
made and those could have been mixed up in time!?
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx/BBB
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Hi Ed,
Specifically looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC.
Regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Anthony,
What Loco's are you looking for?
Ed Sauers
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024
at 11:41?PM Anthony Salvate via
<n1tks= [email protected]>
wrote:
Does anyone in the
group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if
American Models will ever replenish their sold out
locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 09:09 AM, Bob Werre wrote:
I believe AM only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!?
I have an A-A set (AC Hirail) in a three unit box with the foam insert for the B-unit in place.? I bought these (I have a "guilty pleasure" for New Haven...) at an S-Fest last century from an individual.? I think originally AM offered them as A-A or A-B-A, although this is the only A-A set I've ever seen.? Just as well, NH didn't have any PB-units.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Rich,? you are correct in that AM only
sold the New Havens in AA sets--I believe AM's literature states
the fact that the NH didn't have B's.? The NYC 's that I'm selling
was also boxed that way, with the B unit slot covered over with
foam.?
For these marginal runs, ordering
different sized boxes gets expensive.? The same applied to SHS as
they used their AB box with all the cutouts for sound and AF
couplers + the wheels.? So if you ordered a SHS, AA configuration
you probably got two AB set boxes.?
I bought my PA's (A&B) and they
arrived in the same plain boxes many companies send out anything
that fits.? Since the SHS folks knew what I needed I just received
a DC, scale wheels version.
Bob Werre
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 09:09 AM, Bob Werre wrote:
I believe AM only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron
broke up a set!?
I have an A-A set (AC Hirail) in a three unit box with the foam
insert for the B-unit in place.? I bought these (I have a
"guilty pleasure" for New Haven...) at an S-Fest last century
from an individual.? I think originally AM offered them as A-A
or A-B-A, although this is the only A-A set I've ever seen.?
Just as well, NH didn't have any PB-units.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Bob, I own several AM PA’s, all are in various New Haven paint schemes. I do have an original set of McGinnis PA’s that I haven’t altered yet. I love the PA’s but, I don’t remember them coming with Kadee 802’s. I haven’t had the McGinnis units out in a while and I’ll look at them when I get home tomorrow. I did mount Kadees on all of my engines Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
Anthony,? Although my memory has faded somewhat, I believe AM
only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!? And
whether they are PA1 or PA2--who knows?? I also thought that AM
installed 802 Kadee's on scale versions during assembly.? Now SHS
did break up the sets when they were in league with AM for a short
time.? I bought a AB pair but they had just plain individual
cardboard boxes.?
So my suggestion would be to buy either Ed's or my PA sets (I'm
sure both of us will share the wealth between us, should there be
any), chose the unit you want and sell the rest--after all this is
S Scale where our choices can be less than ideal.?
This goes back to what I was just talking about--we don't know
how many units of painted/lettered models have been made, then the
AC/DC/wheel/engine number thing adds more variations.? It's one
thing to buy a raw brass model, but a decorated model is a
different story.? My guess would be a few dozen sets at best were
made and those could have been mixed up in time!?
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx/BBB
Hi Ed,
Specifically looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC.
Regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Anthony,
What Loco's are you looking for?
Ed Sauers
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024
at 11:41?PM Anthony Salvate via
<n1tks= [email protected]>
wrote:
Does anyone in the
group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if
American Models will ever replenish their sold out
locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 05:40 AM, Stephen Kutash wrote:
I love the PA’s but, I don’t remember them coming with Kadee 802’s.
Early on, AM's scale locomotives didn't come with Kadee's.? Somewhere along the line they started to include a pack of Kadees, probably somewhere in the high 2000's.? My Texas Special E8's, T&P Geeps and MP RS-11's all had a pack included.? When I bought one of the last sets of UP E8's in 2018, they installed the Kadees on the truck talgo arms.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Thanks Rich, As I recall, on the McGinnis PA’s, I mounted the Kade’s on the Talbots as well. On the ones I painted , I used a BTS rear coupler bracket which required some custom work to the bracket, removing the rear Talbots and trimming the rear f the Delrin truck frame to allow free movement of the truck. The front couplers were body mounted after I epoxied a piece of styrene to attach the Kadee to. Then I filled in much of the front coupler opening and removed the roof dynamic brakes, New Haven never had them.? Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 9:06?AM Rich Gajnak via <rustytraque= [email protected]> wrote: On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 05:40 AM, Stephen Kutash wrote:
I love the PA’s but, I don’t remember them coming with Kadee 802’s.
Early on, AM's scale locomotives didn't come with Kadee's.? Somewhere along the line they started to include a pack of Kadees, probably somewhere in the high 2000's.? My Texas Special E8's, T&P Geeps and MP RS-11's all had a pack included.? When I bought on of the last sets of UP E8's in 2018, they installed the Kadees on the truck talgo arms.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Despite knowing that NH did not have B units, AM did offer an ABA set with the B unit numbered 0770
Jim Marski
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Rich,? you are correct in that AM only sold the New Havens in AA sets--I believe AM's literature states the fact that the NH didn't have B's.? The NYC 's that I'm selling was also boxed that way, with the B unit slot covered over
with foam.?
For these marginal runs, ordering different sized boxes gets expensive.? The same applied to SHS as they used their AB box with all the cutouts for sound and AF couplers + the wheels.? So if you ordered a SHS, AA configuration
you probably got two AB set boxes.?
I bought my PA's (A&B) and they arrived in the same plain boxes many companies send out anything that fits.? Since the SHS folks knew what I needed I just received a DC, scale wheels version.
Bob Werre
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 09:09 AM, Bob Werre wrote:
I believe AM only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!?
I have an A-A set (AC Hirail) in a three unit box with the foam insert for the B-unit in place.? I bought these (I have a "guilty pleasure" for New Haven...) at an S-Fest last century from an individual.? I think originally AM offered them as A-A or A-B-A,
although this is the only A-A set I've ever seen.? Just as well, NH didn't have any PB-units.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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I had an ABA undecorated set, I obtained an A shell from Ron and replaced it to the B unit.? Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
Despite knowing that NH did not have B units, AM did offer an ABA set with the B unit numbered 0770
Jim Marski
Rich,? you are correct in that AM only sold the New Havens in AA sets--I believe AM's literature states the fact that the NH didn't have B's.? The NYC 's that I'm selling was also boxed that way, with the B unit slot covered over
with foam.?
For these marginal runs, ordering different sized boxes gets expensive.? The same applied to SHS as they used their AB box with all the cutouts for sound and AF couplers + the wheels.? So if you ordered a SHS, AA configuration
you probably got two AB set boxes.?
I bought my PA's (A&B) and they arrived in the same plain boxes many companies send out anything that fits.? Since the SHS folks knew what I needed I just received a DC, scale wheels version.
Bob Werre
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 09:09 AM, Bob Werre wrote:
I believe AM only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!?
I have an A-A set (AC Hirail) in a three unit box with the foam insert for the B-unit in place.? I bought these (I have a "guilty pleasure" for New Haven...) at an S-Fest last century from an individual.? I think originally AM offered them as A-A or A-B-A,
although this is the only A-A set I've ever seen.? Just as well, NH didn't have any PB-units.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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I've been hoping that some 3D wizard
would be making inserts for the various AM engines for an easy way
to make things more correct, or maybe I just missed that?? I spent
a lot of time doing that exact thing with my U25B's but one
wanders into other projects.? So my RS11 and the PA's need inserts
and perhaps the RS3's also.? My GP9's have been in the shop for
several years so I don't know at what stage they are in.? That's a
shame, as I had put many brass castings on each--some day!
Bob Werre
On 12/1/24 8:30 AM, Stephen Kutash via
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Thanks Rich, As I recall, on the McGinnis PA’s, I
mounted the Kade’s on the Talbots as well. On the ones I painted
, I used a BTS rear coupler bracket which required some custom
work to the bracket, removing the rear Talbots and trimming the
rear f the Delrin truck frame to allow free movement of the
truck. The front couplers were body mounted after I epoxied a
piece of styrene to attach the Kadee to. Then I filled in much
of the front coupler opening and removed the roof dynamic
brakes, New Haven never had them.?
Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at
9:06?AM Rich Gajnak via <rustytraque= [email protected]>
wrote:
On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 05:40 AM, Stephen Kutash wrote:
I love the PA’s but, I don’t remember them
coming with Kadee 802’s.
Early on, AM's scale locomotives didn't come with
Kadee's.? Somewhere along the line they started to include
a pack of Kadees, probably somewhere in the high 2000's.?
My Texas Special E8's, T&P Geeps and MP RS-11's all
had a pack included.? When I bought on of the last sets of
UP E8's in 2018, they installed the Kadees on the truck
talgo arms.
?
Rich G(ajnak)
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