Between time out and turkey!
I have a back to-it for a good weekend!? Only one
item X 3 as I'm sort of winding down this chapter!
Here are three American Models cars for you to
consider.? All boxcars are from Western based roads!? All seem
to be NIB with trucks and scale wheels.? $80.00 for all three
plus shipping.
Bob Werre
BBB
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Thanks Roger and Brooks for the good
words on my shot in RMC.? O Winston has been one of my favorites
going way back to his work in Life and other magazines of the
time.? PBS did a story about him and his work, that had him
re-stage one of his setups--talk about dedication.? Planing out
the shot and then spending many hours getting set up all those
flash bulbs was quite a feat and btw you only get one shot!?
Also some might also recall how a women
in his life started to steal his work, finally a gallery became
concerned about his welfare where it was brought forth that he was
nearly a captive.? That was broadcast on 20/20 or some similar
program for a real life drama.?
When I wasn't putting together a boxcar
I was thinking of what photo possibilities I could whip up.? As
I've aged all too quickly, those photo compositions come a bit
slower!? However I still have another couple more to make.
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx
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Bob has a
spectacular photo on the inside front cover of the
December RMC. It’s a black and white night scene, artfully
composed and brilliantly lit, ala O. Winston Link. It’s
well worth the price of the magazine!
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Bob is
the Master!
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Roger
Nulton
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I've been hoping that some 3D wizard
would be making inserts for the various AM engines for an easy way
to make things more correct, or maybe I just missed that?? I spent
a lot of time doing that exact thing with my U25B's but one
wanders into other projects.? So my RS11 and the PA's need inserts
and perhaps the RS3's also.? My GP9's have been in the shop for
several years so I don't know at what stage they are in.? That's a
shame, as I had put many brass castings on each--some day!
Bob Werre
On 12/1/24 8:30 AM, Stephen Kutash via
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Thanks Rich, As I recall, on the McGinnis PA’s, I
mounted the Kade’s on the Talbots as well. On the ones I painted
, I used a BTS rear coupler bracket which required some custom
work to the bracket, removing the rear Talbots and trimming the
rear f the Delrin truck frame to allow free movement of the
truck. The front couplers were body mounted after I epoxied a
piece of styrene to attach the Kadee to. Then I filled in much
of the front coupler opening and removed the roof dynamic
brakes, New Haven never had them.?
Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at
9:06?AM Rich Gajnak via <rustytraque= [email protected]>
wrote:
On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 05:40 AM, Stephen Kutash wrote:
I love the PA’s but, I don’t remember them
coming with Kadee 802’s.
Early on, AM's scale locomotives didn't come with
Kadee's.? Somewhere along the line they started to include
a pack of Kadees, probably somewhere in the high 2000's.?
My Texas Special E8's, T&P Geeps and MP RS-11's all
had a pack included.? When I bought on of the last sets of
UP E8's in 2018, they installed the Kadees on the truck
talgo arms.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Very nice indeed... :-)
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Mark in Oregon
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I had an ABA undecorated set, I obtained an A shell from Ron and replaced it to the B unit.? Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
Despite knowing that NH did not have B units, AM did offer an ABA set with the B unit numbered 0770
Jim Marski
Rich,? you are correct in that AM only sold the New Havens in AA sets--I believe AM's literature states the fact that the NH didn't have B's.? The NYC 's that I'm selling was also boxed that way, with the B unit slot covered over
with foam.?
For these marginal runs, ordering different sized boxes gets expensive.? The same applied to SHS as they used their AB box with all the cutouts for sound and AF couplers + the wheels.? So if you ordered a SHS, AA configuration
you probably got two AB set boxes.?
I bought my PA's (A&B) and they arrived in the same plain boxes many companies send out anything that fits.? Since the SHS folks knew what I needed I just received a DC, scale wheels version.
Bob Werre
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 09:09 AM, Bob Werre wrote:
I believe AM only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!?
I have an A-A set (AC Hirail) in a three unit box with the foam insert for the B-unit in place.? I bought these (I have a "guilty pleasure" for New Haven...) at an S-Fest last century from an individual.? I think originally AM offered them as A-A or A-B-A,
although this is the only A-A set I've ever seen.? Just as well, NH didn't have any PB-units.
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Despite knowing that NH did not have B units, AM did offer an ABA set with the B unit numbered 0770
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Rich,? you are correct in that AM only sold the New Havens in AA sets--I believe AM's literature states the fact that the NH didn't have B's.? The NYC 's that I'm selling was also boxed that way, with the B unit slot covered over
with foam.?
For these marginal runs, ordering different sized boxes gets expensive.? The same applied to SHS as they used their AB box with all the cutouts for sound and AF couplers + the wheels.? So if you ordered a SHS, AA configuration
you probably got two AB set boxes.?
I bought my PA's (A&B) and they arrived in the same plain boxes many companies send out anything that fits.? Since the SHS folks knew what I needed I just received a DC, scale wheels version.
Bob Werre
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 09:09 AM, Bob Werre wrote:
I believe AM only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!?
I have an A-A set (AC Hirail) in a three unit box with the foam insert for the B-unit in place.? I bought these (I have a "guilty pleasure" for New Haven...) at an S-Fest last century from an individual.? I think originally AM offered them as A-A or A-B-A,
although this is the only A-A set I've ever seen.? Just as well, NH didn't have any PB-units.
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Thanks Rich, As I recall, on the McGinnis PA’s, I mounted the Kade’s on the Talbots as well. On the ones I painted , I used a BTS rear coupler bracket which required some custom work to the bracket, removing the rear Talbots and trimming the rear f the Delrin truck frame to allow free movement of the truck. The front couplers were body mounted after I epoxied a piece of styrene to attach the Kadee to. Then I filled in much of the front coupler opening and removed the roof dynamic brakes, New Haven never had them.? Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 9:06?AM Rich Gajnak via <rustytraque= [email protected]> wrote: On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 05:40 AM, Stephen Kutash wrote:
I love the PA’s but, I don’t remember them coming with Kadee 802’s.
Early on, AM's scale locomotives didn't come with Kadee's.? Somewhere along the line they started to include a pack of Kadees, probably somewhere in the high 2000's.? My Texas Special E8's, T&P Geeps and MP RS-11's all had a pack included.? When I bought on of the last sets of UP E8's in 2018, they installed the Kadees on the truck talgo arms.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 05:40 AM, Stephen Kutash wrote:
I love the PA’s but, I don’t remember them coming with Kadee 802’s.
Early on, AM's scale locomotives didn't come with Kadee's.? Somewhere along the line they started to include a pack of Kadees, probably somewhere in the high 2000's.? My Texas Special E8's, T&P Geeps and MP RS-11's all had a pack included.? When I bought one of the last sets of UP E8's in 2018, they installed the Kadees on the truck talgo arms.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Bob, I own several AM PA’s, all are in various New Haven paint schemes. I do have an original set of McGinnis PA’s that I haven’t altered yet. I love the PA’s but, I don’t remember them coming with Kadee 802’s. I haven’t had the McGinnis units out in a while and I’ll look at them when I get home tomorrow. I did mount Kadees on all of my engines Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
Anthony,? Although my memory has faded somewhat, I believe AM
only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!? And
whether they are PA1 or PA2--who knows?? I also thought that AM
installed 802 Kadee's on scale versions during assembly.? Now SHS
did break up the sets when they were in league with AM for a short
time.? I bought a AB pair but they had just plain individual
cardboard boxes.?
So my suggestion would be to buy either Ed's or my PA sets (I'm
sure both of us will share the wealth between us, should there be
any), chose the unit you want and sell the rest--after all this is
S Scale where our choices can be less than ideal.?
This goes back to what I was just talking about--we don't know
how many units of painted/lettered models have been made, then the
AC/DC/wheel/engine number thing adds more variations.? It's one
thing to buy a raw brass model, but a decorated model is a
different story.? My guess would be a few dozen sets at best were
made and those could have been mixed up in time!?
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx/BBB
Hi Ed,
Specifically looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC.
Regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Anthony,
What Loco's are you looking for?
Ed Sauers
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024
at 11:41?PM Anthony Salvate via
<n1tks= [email protected]>
wrote:
Does anyone in the
group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if
American Models will ever replenish their sold out
locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Rich,? you are correct in that AM only
sold the New Havens in AA sets--I believe AM's literature states
the fact that the NH didn't have B's.? The NYC 's that I'm selling
was also boxed that way, with the B unit slot covered over with
foam.?
For these marginal runs, ordering
different sized boxes gets expensive.? The same applied to SHS as
they used their AB box with all the cutouts for sound and AF
couplers + the wheels.? So if you ordered a SHS, AA configuration
you probably got two AB set boxes.?
I bought my PA's (A&B) and they
arrived in the same plain boxes many companies send out anything
that fits.? Since the SHS folks knew what I needed I just received
a DC, scale wheels version.
Bob Werre
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 09:09 AM, Bob Werre wrote:
I believe AM only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron
broke up a set!?
I have an A-A set (AC Hirail) in a three unit box with the foam
insert for the B-unit in place.? I bought these (I have a
"guilty pleasure" for New Haven...) at an S-Fest last century
from an individual.? I think originally AM offered them as A-A
or A-B-A, although this is the only A-A set I've ever seen.?
Just as well, NH didn't have any PB-units.
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Re: such a deal--no inflation--no gouging, but these aren't made anymore either!
Charles,? I've tried to contact you
regarding those turnouts--I've got them ready to ship, but your
email as well as the IO is rejecting it.
Bob Werre
On 11/29/24 1:34 PM, Charles Williams
via groups.io wrote:
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Hi Bob, Shinohara turnouts - yes, looking for the #6 ones.?
Nobody likes them, but I love them!? Let me know.
Charles Williams
The Heralds are now in the
dumpster--the recycling one!
Next up is the Tru Scale wooden
roadbed and some Shinoraha turnouts--next week for those!
Bob Werre
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Re: S scale figures, previous posting...
That has only happened to the BBB once
recently.? So considering the typical business routines it's not
bad.? Keeping track of who is buying what, along with the special
qualifications, the bookkeeping can be taxing!? Sometimes the wife
and I will pack up 4-5-6 packages, wait for the money but
eventually it's rare to have a looser.? Also just recently, due to
my warehouse staff, things can happen on our end too.? Our new
employees, aka 3 baby cats are great at keyboard erasing games!?
Bob Werre
BBB/PhotoTraxx
On 11/30/24 6:43 PM, Bill Hadley via
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About 2 weeks ago, I posted one lot of 34 figures for sale,
and had a taker
who was going to mail a check. Hasn't arrived yet.
Don't have the emails to contact. So if it was sent, maybe
it's lost.
If not sent, maybe changed his mind.
Sorry I don't remember who, but could you contact me and
advise.
Or I can repost if need be.
Thanks.
Bill in Ft Worth
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Indeed, that is a terrific photo from Master Bob!? And it is the second of Bob's great photos that have graced an NASG ad in RMC.? Who could forget his terrific night photo of a Mikado on the turntable which ran in the March 2024 issue?? ?Bob is among the 10 or so guys who have contributed more than one photo to the promotional campaign in RMC and the only one to attempt night photography.? The RMC campaign started in May 2022 and the 33rd photo will appear in the February 2025 RMC.? ?The current plan is to present all 33 photos again starting in March 2025 and the ads will run through the fall of 2027!!? ?Plans are underway to make all 33 photos, probably the best collection of S photos ever assembled, available in one place.
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 09:09 AM, Bob Werre wrote:
I believe AM only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!?
I have an A-A set (AC Hirail) in a three unit box with the foam insert for the B-unit in place.? I bought these (I have a "guilty pleasure" for New Haven...) at an S-Fest last century from an individual.? I think originally AM offered them as A-A or A-B-A, although this is the only A-A set I've ever seen.? Just as well, NH didn't have any PB-units.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Bob Werre in Railroad Model Craftsman
Bob has a spectacular photo on the inside front cover of the December RMC. It’s a black and white night scene, artfully composed and brilliantly lit, ala O. Winston Link. It’s well worth the price of the magazine! ? Bob is the Master! ? Roger Nulton
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Anthony,? Although my memory has faded somewhat, I believe AM
only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!? And
whether they are PA1 or PA2--who knows?? I also thought that AM
installed 802 Kadee's on scale versions during assembly.? Now SHS
did break up the sets when they were in league with AM for a short
time.? I bought a AB pair but they had just plain individual
cardboard boxes.?
So my suggestion would be to buy either Ed's or my PA sets (I'm
sure both of us will share the wealth between us, should there be
any), chose the unit you want and sell the rest--after all this is
S Scale where our choices can be less than ideal.?
This goes back to what I was just talking about--we don't know
how many units of painted/lettered models have been made, then the
AC/DC/wheel/engine number thing adds more variations.? It's one
thing to buy a raw brass model, but a decorated model is a
different story.? My guess would be a few dozen sets at best were
made and those could have been mixed up in time!?
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx/BBB
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Hi Ed,
Specifically looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC.
Regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Anthony,
What Loco's are you looking for?
Ed Sauers
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024
at 11:41?PM Anthony Salvate via
<n1tks= [email protected]>
wrote:
Does anyone in the
group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if
American Models will ever replenish their sold out
locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Thank you Rich;
I had not looked at the availability of there regular stock, just
saw it was all listed. I was under the impression that they had
lots of stock remaining from comments on here. If they are truly
sold out then that should encourage them to make more. And that
should be a good thing. Perhaps not so much doom and gloom after
all.
Ian McKinley
On 11/30/2024 10:38 AM, Rich Gajnak via
groups.io wrote:
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 08:10 AM, Ian McKinley wrote:
So I expect it is only the slowest moving items in
there inventory, not all there stock. Nothing there I wanted,
I would like to be mistaken on this.
It looks like it's all remaining stock on sale.? If you click on
the regular listings, everything else is listed as sold out.
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Rich (Gajnak)
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:41 AM, John Hutnick wrote:
Is a USRA light 2-8-2 worthwhile, since the AF Flyer one is unacceptable to most in this group.
Of course, I'm in no position to tell AM how to invest in their product line, but I often thought putting a 2-8-2 drive under the Pacific boiler would make a reasonable representation of a USRA Heavy Mike.? Granted the Heavy wasn't as wide spread as the Light, but it would probably be the best "bang for the buck."
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Rich G(ajnak)
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 08:10 AM, Ian McKinley wrote:
So I expect it is only the slowest moving items in there inventory, not all there stock. Nothing there I wanted, I would like to be mistaken on this.
It looks like it's all remaining stock on sale.? If you click on the regular listings, everything else is listed as sold out.
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Rich (Gajnak)
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:08 AM, Anthony Salvate wrote:
looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC.
Anthony.... I have an American Models ALCO PA-PB-PA diesel lashup for sale.? Was undec, but now custom painted NYC lightning stripes, scale wheels, Kadee couplers, DCC decoders, crew, working diaphragms, test run only.? Will sell as a set, but not individually.? Why not write to me and ask for photos and details.? Thanks.......Ed Loizeaux
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Loizeaux? aht? SBC? //? Global? daht net? ? ? ? ?1-650-962-1577
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Ed Loizeaux
Los Altos, CA
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Mark Mugnai
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