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Re: ACF 70 Ton Hopper

 

Hey Mike;

This is great! I’ve been waiting a long time for a non-brass version of this ACF hopper.

This right here is probably “the future of S”, individuals using the tech available to make things for other modelers.

Pieter Roos




On Thursday, April 17, 2025, 12:18 AM, Mike Fyten <mike@...> wrote:

Well, Guys,

Sorry for taking so long, but after months of tweaking, the ACF 70
Ton Hopper is finally at a point, that I feel comfortable this model will go together as planned. I tried painting it as a built-up model,?
but there were too many nooks and crannies that you could not get paint into. Therefore, I’m offering it up as a 3D resin kit, (trucks?
and couplers are not included).The cost is $75.00 each?and includes free shipping to the lower 48 states only. Please contact me,?
off this list, mike@..., if you are interested.

‘厂’颈苍肠别谤别濒测,
Mike Fyten
Kaw Valley Railroad
C: 913-909-1110, leave massage

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A long time ago on the prairie

 

I occasionally tune into a historical IO type group regarding South Dakota--home grounds here!? Occasionally I'll come across some decent RR photos and writings about them.? Last night a letter from a past lobbyist for the CNW was run.? The State Capitol was in Yankton in the far SE corner of the state--MILW territory!

The CNW was pushing for a more central part of the state and right next to their new rails!? So the CNW pushed for Pierre (pronounced pier).? They brought in a train stocked with food, booze and women; and so the legislators decided the move would be good!? Apparently lobbying hasn't changed too much!

BTW, The main passenger train ended up being called the Dakota 400!? My own version is called the Dakota 300! (an E7 one coach, RPO & baggage.? Presently I'm waiting for some cash coming my way!? Perhaps I should open a prison there too!

Not too political is it?

Bob Werre

Phototraxx


Re: Who done it?

 

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Don't forget that the Berks were sometimes started only to be finished by a second or third builder /si it's about when you mate livestock--unless the heritage can be traced most are mutts of a fashion!

I had bought the Hudson conversion kit and did a few inroads but I wasn't ready for the full trip yet.? I did a fair amount of work on the tender trucks (the kind where the journal lids could be opened!? I also acquired another that had the Nimco conversion mostly adapted.? Peter Loeb, ( is he still with us?) bought it from me--he was an owner of part of it!.?

?I love the Hudson style but the NYC versions weren't useful to me!

Bob Werre

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Yeh, I thought about both John and Frank. I'm looking for confirmation.?
Tommy?

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 9:48?PM Bill Lane via <bill=[email protected]> wrote:

Is that a Berkshire? John Bortz built and ran Berkshires including his large scale live steam loco. Maybe have been built and/or owned by John Bortz.

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Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

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Re: ACF 70 Ton Hopper

 

Hooray! ?Another car kit available in S! ?Great work, Mike!
Ben Trousdale?


Re: Who done it?

 

Yeh, I thought about both John and Frank. I'm looking for confirmation.?
Tommy?

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 9:48?PM Bill Lane via <bill=[email protected]> wrote:

Is that a Berkshire? John Bortz built and ran Berkshires including his large scale live steam loco. Maybe have been built and/or owned by John Bortz.

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Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:

Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

?

See my layout progress at:



Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!?
?
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

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Re: Who done it?

 

I thought the same thing Luther, thanks. If it is his work, I'd like to display it at the museum.?
Tommy

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 9:01?PM Luther Stephens via <lcs464=[email protected]> wrote:
The weathering on this loco is very much like Frank Titman did with loco builds. I know Frank built a bunch
of SSL&S engines, some when I was still in the club.
A move took me away and never to return, life does that.
Luther "S"tephens


ACF 70 Ton Hopper

 

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Well, Guys,

Sorry for taking so long, but after months of tweaking, the ACF 70
Ton Hopper is finally at a point, that I feel comfortable this model will go together as planned. I tried painting it as a built-up model,?
but there were too many nooks and crannies that you could not get paint into. Therefore, I’m offering it up as a 3D resin kit, (trucks?
and couplers are not included).The cost is $75.00 each?and includes free shipping to the lower 48 states only. Please contact me,?
off this list, mike@..., if you are interested.

‘厂’颈苍肠别谤别濒测,
Mike Fyten
Kaw Valley Railroad
C: 913-909-1110, leave massage

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Re: Who done it?

 

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Is that a Berkshire? John Bortz built and ran Berkshires including his large scale live steam loco. Maybe have been built and/or owned by John Bortz.

?

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987

See my finished models at:

Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!

?

See my layout progress at:



Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!?
?
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL

?


Re: Who done it?

 

The weathering on this loco is very much like Frank Titman did with loco builds. I know Frank built a bunch
of SSL&S engines, some when I was still in the club.
A move took me away and never to return, life does that.
Luther "S"tephens


Re: Minimum Radius List

 

Yes, with the coupled wheelbase and the total sideplay, you can calculate the allowable radius.? It is just geometry, if any of us still remember.
Regarding the AM Northern, haven't some members here tested them for their minimum radius?
The NMRA can recommend.? Put an engine on the track and see what it can or cannot do.? That is the real recommendation.


Re: Who done it?

 

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Back when the loco was still being developed Claude put together a Circuit Letter for those who would be building one. I don't recall how long the process took but I bet it was a couple of years. ? It was a great idea to keep the guys from around the country working on a single engine.? Sharing and debating construction methods was the idea.?

Bob Werre

While I wasn't in S scale when SSL&S was flourishing, my reading of documents suggests the first project for the idea was supposed to be a Lima Berkshire, so presumably this is one.? As to who put it together, I'd have no idea.

JGGK



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Tom Lennon via groups.io <milepost169@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 5:26 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [S-Scale] Who done it?
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Can someone ID this loco, and tell us the builder? It appears to be mostly a SSLS build, with a lot of embellishments. It's a beautiful job.
Tommy?



Re: Who done it?

 

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While I wasn't in S scale when SSL&S was flourishing, my reading of documents suggests the first project for the idea was supposed to be a Lima Berkshire, so presumably this is one.? As to who put it together, I'd have no idea.

JGGK



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Tom Lennon via groups.io <milepost169@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 5:26 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [S-Scale] Who done it?
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Can someone ID this loco, and tell us the builder? It appears to be mostly a SSLS build, with a lot of embellishments. It's a beautiful job.
Tommy?


Re: Minimum Radius List

 

Do driver side-play and side rod clearance have anything to do with it? ?AM’s northern has a lot of side-play at the two middle axles and rod clearance to accommodate it. ?
Ben Trousdale?


Re: Who done it?

 

I like it. After all, the Importers have a plate from their builders, usually on loco and tender frames.
Tommy?

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025, 4:43?PM Mike Swederska via <mikesscale=[email protected]> wrote:
I can not but you have touched on a subject that I have been thinking hard about. And that is an etched plate for the bottom of my builds with a “Built by Mike Swederska”. Just for this reason.?
Mike Swederska?

On Apr 16, 2025, at 4:26?PM, Tom Lennon via <milepost169=[email protected]> wrote:

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Can someone ID this loco, and tell us the builder? It appears to be mostly a SSLS build, with a lot of embellishments. It's a beautiful job.
Tommy?
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Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16


Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


Re: Who done it?

 

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I can not but you have touched on a subject that I have been thinking hard about. And that is an etched plate for the bottom of my builds with a “Built by Mike Swederska”. Just for this reason.?
Mike Swederska?

On Apr 16, 2025, at 4:26?PM, Tom Lennon via groups.io <milepost169@...> wrote:

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Can someone ID this loco, and tell us the builder? It appears to be mostly a SSLS build, with a lot of embellishments. It's a beautiful job.
Tommy?
<20250415_144203.jpg>

--
Mike Swederska
Meramec Valley Lines
Modeling Mopac equipment in 3/16
https://www.youtube.com/@mikesscale3149

Don't let perfection get in the way of good enough! Keep model railroading fun!


Who done it?

 

Can someone ID this loco, and tell us the builder? It appears to be mostly a SSLS build, with a lot of embellishments. It's a beautiful job.
Tommy?


Re: Minimum Radius List

 

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From:?robf06
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 08:29:39 PDT?

Has anyone compiled a list of the required minimum track radius that a particular locomotive must have? . . .

I wrote the following in 1996 for the Bay Area S Scalers module project. The NMRA recommendation was based on the rigid wheelbase, as I recall, while ignoring pilot and trailing trucks and low-hanging appliances. ?

For my home layout I settled on a 43-inch radius to operate an SP Class GS-4 4-8-4 “Daylight”.

. . . the NMRA states (RP 11) that at the radius shown below the listed equipment should?operate satisfactorily at restricted speed. (Increase the radius one or two increments for operation at typical?mainline scale speeds.)

27-inch:?2-8-2, 4-6-2, EMD FT, 60’ passenger cars without diaphragms, all freight cars

31-inch:?4-6-4, EMD F7, EMD GP7, 60’ passenger cars

36-inch:?4-6-6-4, Alco RSD5, 70’ passenger cars

43-inch:?4-8-4, 2-10-2, EMD E1, Alco PA, 80’ passenger cars

54-inch:?2-10-4, 4-8-8-4, all passenger cars

Bill Roberts


Re: AF to scale - SSL&S Hudsons - B&A RRM tenders

 

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Rob:
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Ah, thought so.
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Looking forward to watching your progress and for sure looking forward to seeing the final product!
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Andre Ming
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Subject: Re: [S-Scale] AF to scale - SSL&S Hudsons - B&A RRM tenders

Andre,

You are correct it will be installed on a SSL&S frame. The original AF linkage will not be used either. It will be replaced by SSL&S linkage, and new leading and trailing trucks.?
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Re: River Raisin B&A tender

 

SOLD


Re: River Raisin B&A tender

 

The tender on the H7 is the one I have been talking about. The P&E tender on the K14 has horizontal rivet patterns, not the 13 vertical rows of the other tender.?
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Something to keep in mind is matching the tender floor height to the cab's deck, especially when moving up or down in driver diameter.?
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Brian
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