Re: Posting Only On Facebook
Thank you, Ian, for correcting me on that. Glad to hear that.
- Peter.
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On 02/02/2025 07:39 PM, Ian McKinley via groups.io wrote:
Hi Peter;
I just took a look at the NASG FB page which I have belonged to for a while. I saw lots of good modeling information for all interests. A lot of it seemed to be Scale or high rail oriented. Not so much Flyer.
Ian McKinley
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Peter Vanvliet (info@...)
owner, Fourth Ray Software
Houston, Texas
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Re: Decoder wiring AM RS11
Hi Kim - I've posted what I'm about to share with you previously to the group, but instead of making you hunt for it...
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See attached PDF with before and after wiring.
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Important to note, at least for my RS11, is the following:
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"Having performed DCC conversions in N Scale many time before, I immediately noticed that the wire color coding was reversed for DCC because the Left Rail (Fireman’s Side) should be Black (not Red), and the Right Rail (Engineer’s Side) should be Red (not Black). In fact, when I tested the loco on DC track, with the power pack wires matching the loco colors, i.e., Red (+) on Left Rail and Black (-) on Right Rail, the loco traveled in reverse. This suggested that either the loco was wired backwards from the factory, or it was intended to run Long Hood forward. To remain consistent with DCC standards, it would be necessary to reverse the wiring for DCC, as shown in..." the attached PDF.
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I am writing an article with the full story and photos for The Dispatch, but in the meantime I hope the PDF will be useful. If not, feel free to reach out to me...
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Phil Scandura
Flagstaff, AZ
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Re: Evolution of InterestS
Well when AF stopped, I had started
with the Herald and NASG, then everybody's wish was a 19.95$
train-set to encourage the younger crowd or a tight budget?? But
we know that didn't happen except for some low end battery powered
toys.?
Those lowly battery toys for toddlers
evolved into the Thomas series with all sorts of items including
nearly everything, especially TV.? Nearly parallel with Thomas is
the Bachmann 0n30 stuff.? Both are factually Gold Mines despite
'real modelers' not buying into the compromises, but I feel those
companies make very healthy bank deposits and any 50's cars come
from their collection!?
And BTW we got some BK coupons in the
mail--wanna do lunch??
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David
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I
HAD Gilbert American Flyer so it is not a totally negative
subject for me.
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But
in about 1985 I thought many times I would switch to S (I
was in HO at that time) if only it had DC operation with
Kadee couplers etc. Just BIGGER HO….. In 1987 I saw S in its
best scale form at that time and left HO immediately.
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So
likely none of us are still driving 1950s cars as their
daily driver. It is just evolution.
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HO
has evolved greatly for the better since 1987 but S Scale
largely has not. So I still WANT exactly what HO has but
just bigger as S. What is wrong with trying to make it
happen even if it is only trying to inspire others?
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And
for Ben (and maybe others) 25+ years ago the Yahoo list was
full of “I wish we had” posts that drove me completely
crazy. I said enough already. I wished we had the PRR X29.
Well I DID it I made it happen along with the
PRR G26. It was a huge money loser that my friend absorbed.
I am now lucky enough to be in my second expensive makes no
sense S project that will make my brass car importing days
look like an expensive Burger King lunch.
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Failure
is guaranteed if you don’t try. If
I can do it so can others.
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Thank
You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S
Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale!
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See
my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical
Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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You might try these folks...
If my math is correct, their 90° triangular 'rod' should have two 45° angles... Jim Kindraka Grand Rapids, MI
On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 6:36?PM Jamie Bothwell wrote:
Frank, There was a time when Plastruct offered a solid triangle shape. I have some somewhere, but it might take me a month to find it. It was probably an equilateral triangle which would make it 60° angles.? From memory, I'd say my piece was about 1/16th on a?side. I tried to find it online, but Plastruct's web page is a mess.
Jamie Bothwell Bethlehem, PA
On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 6:18?PM Charles Kinzer wrote:
Well, you can never say never, but I've never seen any.
I suggest fabricating your own by edge gluing flat plastic or wood strips at the angle you want.? You can even file or sand an edge to have an angle for a better fitting joint.
For wood, if you have one of those little hobby table says, you could cut strips with an angle on one edge for gluing.? (22.5 degree edges will make 45 degrees when joined.)
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 03:10:06 PM PST, Frank Williams wrote:
Is 45 degree angle stock available, either in wood or plastic?
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Frank Williams
Yorktown, IN
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Re: Decoder wiring AM RS11
If you leave the LED's wired to the motor, they will only illuminate when the RS-11 is moving.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Re: Decoder wiring AM RS11
The LED lights are wire for forwards and backwards coming from us. You will notice that only one is on in the direction it is going.?
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David ? I HAD Gilbert American Flyer so it is not a totally negative subject for me. ? But in about 1985 I thought many times I would switch to S (I was in HO at that time) if only it had DC operation with Kadee couplers etc. Just BIGGER HO….. In 1987 I saw S in its best scale form at that time and left HO immediately. ? So likely none of us are still driving 1950s cars as their daily driver. It is just evolution. ? HO has evolved greatly for the better since 1987 but S Scale largely has not. So I still WANT exactly what HO has but just bigger as S. What is wrong with trying to make it happen even if it is only trying to inspire others? ? And for Ben (and maybe others) 25+ years ago the Yahoo list was full of “I wish we had” posts that drove me completely crazy. I said enough already. I wished we had the PRR X29. Well I DID it I made it happen along with the PRR G26. It was a huge money loser that my friend absorbed. I am now lucky enough to be in my second expensive makes no sense S project that will make my brass car importing days look like an expensive Burger King lunch. ? Failure is guaranteed if you don’t try. If I can do it so can others. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Thanks for the info Bill. ?All is not lost!! Regards
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On Feb 2, 2025, at 10:08?PM, Bill Lane via groups.io <bill@...> wrote:
? Ron ? Trust me I know what I am an talking about. Tomalco track is now owned by Micro Engineering. ? 1 of the things we are helping M E with is get a new website up. They are well aware their current website is greatly lacking….. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Re: The Monon Thoroughbred
Roger Brooks Is? Birds eye view The term you seek? Sent from my Tardis -- Ted Larson trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org??????? --------??????? GN in 1965
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Re: Posting Only On Facebook
Thanks Peter. ? In that case a group?name change is needed. ? Sent from my Tardis
-- Ted Larson trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org??????? --------??????? GN in 1965
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Re: Any future S efforts....
I agree with David Dewey. ?This thread of wishful thinking is so typical of hundreds of similar posts except for the massive size of delusion that someone, group or company will step up given the immense initial costs.?
Ben Trousdale?
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Ron ? Trust me I know what I am an talking about. Tomalco track is now owned by Micro Engineering. ? 1 of the things we are helping M E with is get a new website up. They are well aware their current website is greatly lacking….. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Re: Any future S efforts....
While I have great respect for those posting here, I will admit that I am sick and tired of the complaining that S is dominated by toy trains. ALL the scales started out as toy trains, it is NOT the fault of ACG or Lionel that S-scale hasn't grown except that the other scales have many more established manufacturers in both the "toy" and "scale" marketplaces, so they overwhelm the general public with their products, which are not S scale in size.? And I am willing to bet that all manufactures are facing the declining interest in ALL hobbies. The upcoming generations do not seem to want to do hobbies except maybe electronic gaming. Society, both American and European (the two major societies that have large groups of hobbyists), has reached a major turning point in recreational activities, and it's not one the is supportive of personal creativity activities.
Lionel's decision to leave the AF product line in spite of their mishandling of it is not a blessing for the future popularity of the scale.
S'incerely,
David Dewey
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Re: Any future S efforts....
Preorders are pretty much the way Lionel's been doing business for the last 20 years, particularly with locomotives.
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Rich G(Gajnak)
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Re: Posting Only On Facebook
Hi Peter;?
I just took a look at the NASG FB page which I have belonged to
for a while. I saw lots of good modeling information for all
interests. A lot of it seemed to be Scale or high rail oriented.
Not so much Flyer.
Ian McKinley
On 2/2/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Vanvliet
via groups.io wrote:
Hi Ted,
The original idea was that the manager of that group would post
NASG-related news items there, for those who don't use Groups.io
(back then it was Yahoo Groups). While I have personally never
seen it, it is my understanding that it has morphed into an
AF-discussion group.
- Peter.
On 02/01/2025 07:16 PM, Ted Larson
via groups.io wrote:
Regarding?
?(managed
by Chris Burger on behalf of the NASG; ~1,300 members)
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What is NASGs purpose for this? ??
--
Ted Larson
trainweb.org/mhrr/??????? --------??????? NASG.org???????
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GN in 1965
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Peter Vanvliet (info@...)
owner, Fourth Ray Software
Houston, Texas
(personal web site)
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Brand new to DCC and just hooked up an NCE Power Cab. ?My first engine is decodered and running fine. ?Starting to install a decoder in an AM RS11. ?The headlights in the RS11 are factory mounted to small PC boards and wired in parallel with track power so there is no differentiation between headlight and taillight. ?Should I keep them wired to the motor tabs on the decoder and let the lighting boards figure it out without using the decoder light tabs?
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Re: Any future S efforts....
Well since everything is a preorder nowadays anyway it seems Lionel could open it up for preorders stating that the project will only go forward if “X” number of locomotives are ordered and then if enough interest is reached require a 50% deposit from those
people to assure the sales and make the run.?
My only gripe is that I don’t want or need all the junk they have in those locomotives. They could save money by selling a stripped version rid of all the electronics and simply supply it with scale wheels, lights and motor. We’re S scalers, so we can
do the rest!!! If they want to release with hirail wheels for those folks that would be fine to increase the run numbers, but offering a stripped version saving some money would be great. That’s basically what American Models sells with their DC versions.
I ended up stripping those down too and starting over anyway. I suppose if they wanted to make it DCC ready that would be fine too with the harness built in and then purchasers could choose their own control system.?
Just my two cents.?
Jeff J
Michigan
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On Feb 2, 2025, at 19:31, Rich Gajnak via groups.io <rustytraque@...> wrote:
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On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 01:45 PM, Hans von Draminski wrote:
Rusty, if we could Lionel persuade to resurrect the "modern" rolling stock in scale versions we would surely benefit from that and they could have a return of invest for their efforts in the years between 2010 and 2015.
Lionel marches only to their own drumbeat.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Re: Posting Only On Facebook
And there are scams associated with fake "friend" requests.? It gives the scammer access to your info and your list of friends.? A goal can be to send malware or phishing links to your real friends.
I have had recent "friend" requests from my lady friend who died in 2011 and my brother who died last May.? Unless Facebook has a longer reach than I think it has, they were certainly fake.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 04:28:44 PM PST, Bill Lane via groups.io <bill@...> wrote:
I have 100s of “friends” I have never approved. That would be more of a time consumer than FB already is. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Re: Any future S efforts....
On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 01:45 PM, Hans von Draminski wrote:
Rusty, if we could Lionel persuade to resurrect the "modern" rolling stock in scale versions we would surely benefit from that and they could have a return of invest for their efforts in the years between 2010 and 2015.
Lionel marches only to their own drumbeat.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Shane said he’d announce a sale. Tomalco and Micro websites are silent. Until the check clears…Reminds me of salesmen counting their commission before the product ships and is paid for. I hope you’re right Bill.
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