Re: Off the work bench..for now
Comparison before and after shots would be great to see.
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Bill
On 12/02/2024 1:19 PM EST Brian Jackson via groups.io <jackson-standard@...> wrote:
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Those are really gorgeous models, Mark. They are an excellent demonstration of how to take off-the-self rolling stock and turn them into real models.?
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Re: Off the work bench..for now
Mark,
What's the source for the grab irons up the ends of the Geeps?
Brooks Stover
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Re: Off the work bench..for now
Those are really gorgeous models, Mark. They are an excellent demonstration of how to take off-the-self rolling stock and turn them into real models.?
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Brian Jackson
Springfield IL
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Re: Off the work bench..for now
Excellent work!? So much AM stuff, is
simply open the box put in window glass; run it!? You've done much
more, so showing the modified models would be great at contests
and modular setups appealing to specific modelers who can at least
appreciate what has been done.
Bob Werre
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Three nearly finished, still to be weathered, for more room
for new projects. The caboose started out to mimic Mr. Stovers
"good enough" but ended up going down the rabbit hole. All
windows were either moved or enlarged. The GP's
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Re: Off the work bench..for now
Mark,?
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Your 'good enough' is way better than mine!? Nice work, indeed, on all three models!? Any of these would make nice little articles for DISPATCH.? ?In the case of the caboose just a photo of the finished model and a small image of a 'stock' AM caboose with a brief text of what you did would make nice read and maybe inspire others to try similar conversions.? Anything that can be done to show what can be done with AM products is of big value.? AM is the only game in town, really, and their products do make great foundations for detailing and/or modifying as you've done.??
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On Dec 2, 2024, at 9:23?AM, Mark Hall via groups.io <halmr28@...> wrote:
? Three nearly finished, still to be weathered, for more room for new projects. The caboose started out to mimic Mr. Stovers "good enough" but ended up going down the rabbit hole. All windows were either moved or enlarged. The GP's
have 3D fuel tanks, steps, and plows for the MP192. <IMG_0038.jpg> <IMG_0046.jpg> <IMG_0047.jpg>
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Off the work bench..for now
Three nearly finished, still to be weathered, for more room for new projects. The caboose started out to mimic Mr. Stovers "good enough" but ended up going down the rabbit hole. All windows were either moved or enlarged. The GP's
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Re: Between time out and turkey!
As any really good sales guy would admit--they lie!?
Well I'm not lying but bringing out one thing hardly anybody
would offer to his customer!? I've mentioned about having a pair
of AM E8's decorated for the Texas Special.? The main joint
passenger train that ran on the Frisco and the Katy.? I don't know
how many copies American Models produced but I understand they are
sold out--So I can offer a special insetive to one lucky customer
who might have special relationship with those roads and perhaps
that train.? To the lucky buyer...they will get a binder of untold
wealth of these never to be seen again prints.? A sample is
attached. In the binder are many photos of the passenger cars,
alternative power (like PA's),? These are nicely printed 8 x 10
prints that will be shipped to the new owner.?
Bob Werre
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Re: Bob Werre in Railroad Model Craftsman
Bob's night photo is currently available for viewing on the NASG website Home Page!? There's a nice caption accompanying the photo in which Bob describes some of what was involved to get the photo!
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Between time out and turkey!
I have a back to-it for a good weekend!? Only one
item X 3 as I'm sort of winding down this chapter!
Here are three American Models cars for you to
consider.? All boxcars are from Western based roads!? All seem
to be NIB with trucks and scale wheels.? $80.00 for all three
plus shipping.
Bob Werre
BBB
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Re: Bob Werre in Railroad Model Craftsman
Thanks Roger and Brooks for the good
words on my shot in RMC.? O Winston has been one of my favorites
going way back to his work in Life and other magazines of the
time.? PBS did a story about him and his work, that had him
re-stage one of his setups--talk about dedication.? Planing out
the shot and then spending many hours getting set up all those
flash bulbs was quite a feat and btw you only get one shot!?
Also some might also recall how a women
in his life started to steal his work, finally a gallery became
concerned about his welfare where it was brought forth that he was
nearly a captive.? That was broadcast on 20/20 or some similar
program for a real life drama.?
When I wasn't putting together a boxcar
I was thinking of what photo possibilities I could whip up.? As
I've aged all too quickly, those photo compositions come a bit
slower!? However I still have another couple more to make.
Bob Werre
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Bob has a
spectacular photo on the inside front cover of the
December RMC. It¡¯s a black and white night scene, artfully
composed and brilliantly lit, ala O. Winston Link. It¡¯s
well worth the price of the magazine!
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Bob is
the Master!
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Roger
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I've been hoping that some 3D wizard
would be making inserts for the various AM engines for an easy way
to make things more correct, or maybe I just missed that?? I spent
a lot of time doing that exact thing with my U25B's but one
wanders into other projects.? So my RS11 and the PA's need inserts
and perhaps the RS3's also.? My GP9's have been in the shop for
several years so I don't know at what stage they are in.? That's a
shame, as I had put many brass castings on each--some day!
Bob Werre
On 12/1/24 8:30 AM, Stephen Kutash via
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Thanks Rich, As I recall, on the McGinnis PA¡¯s, I
mounted the Kade¡¯s on the Talbots as well. On the ones I painted
, I used a BTS rear coupler bracket which required some custom
work to the bracket, removing the rear Talbots and trimming the
rear f the Delrin truck frame to allow free movement of the
truck. The front couplers were body mounted after I epoxied a
piece of styrene to attach the Kadee to. Then I filled in much
of the front coupler opening and removed the roof dynamic
brakes, New Haven never had them.?
Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at
9:06?AM Rich Gajnak via <rustytraque= [email protected]>
wrote:
On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 05:40 AM, Stephen Kutash wrote:
I love the PA¡¯s but, I don¡¯t remember them
coming with Kadee 802¡¯s.
Early on, AM's scale locomotives didn't come with
Kadee's.? Somewhere along the line they started to include
a pack of Kadees, probably somewhere in the high 2000's.?
My Texas Special E8's, T&P Geeps and MP RS-11's all
had a pack included.? When I bought on of the last sets of
UP E8's in 2018, they installed the Kadees on the truck
talgo arms.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Very nice indeed... :-)
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Mark in Oregon
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I had an ABA undecorated set, I obtained an A shell from Ron and replaced it to the B unit.? Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
Despite knowing that NH did not have B units, AM did offer an ABA set with the B unit numbered 0770
Jim Marski
Rich,? you are correct in that AM only sold the New Havens in AA sets--I believe AM's literature states the fact that the NH didn't have B's.? The NYC 's that I'm selling was also boxed that way, with the B unit slot covered over
with foam.?
For these marginal runs, ordering different sized boxes gets expensive.? The same applied to SHS as they used their AB box with all the cutouts for sound and AF couplers + the wheels.? So if you ordered a SHS, AA configuration
you probably got two AB set boxes.?
I bought my PA's (A&B) and they arrived in the same plain boxes many companies send out anything that fits.? Since the SHS folks knew what I needed I just received a DC, scale wheels version.
Bob Werre
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 09:09 AM, Bob Werre wrote:
I believe AM only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!?
I have an A-A set (AC Hirail) in a three unit box with the foam insert for the B-unit in place.? I bought these (I have a "guilty pleasure" for New Haven...) at an S-Fest last century from an individual.? I think originally AM offered them as A-A or A-B-A,
although this is the only A-A set I've ever seen.? Just as well, NH didn't have any PB-units.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Despite knowing that NH did not have B units, AM did offer an ABA set with the B unit numbered 0770
Jim Marski
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Rich,? you are correct in that AM only sold the New Havens in AA sets--I believe AM's literature states the fact that the NH didn't have B's.? The NYC 's that I'm selling was also boxed that way, with the B unit slot covered over
with foam.?
For these marginal runs, ordering different sized boxes gets expensive.? The same applied to SHS as they used their AB box with all the cutouts for sound and AF couplers + the wheels.? So if you ordered a SHS, AA configuration
you probably got two AB set boxes.?
I bought my PA's (A&B) and they arrived in the same plain boxes many companies send out anything that fits.? Since the SHS folks knew what I needed I just received a DC, scale wheels version.
Bob Werre
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 09:09 AM, Bob Werre wrote:
I believe AM only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!?
I have an A-A set (AC Hirail) in a three unit box with the foam insert for the B-unit in place.? I bought these (I have a "guilty pleasure" for New Haven...) at an S-Fest last century from an individual.? I think originally AM offered them as A-A or A-B-A,
although this is the only A-A set I've ever seen.? Just as well, NH didn't have any PB-units.
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Thanks Rich, As I recall, on the McGinnis PA¡¯s, I mounted the Kade¡¯s on the Talbots as well. On the ones I painted , I used a BTS rear coupler bracket which required some custom work to the bracket, removing the rear Talbots and trimming the rear f the Delrin truck frame to allow free movement of the truck. The front couplers were body mounted after I epoxied a piece of styrene to attach the Kadee to. Then I filled in much of the front coupler opening and removed the roof dynamic brakes, New Haven never had them.? Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 9:06?AM Rich Gajnak via <rustytraque= [email protected]> wrote: On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 05:40 AM, Stephen Kutash wrote:
I love the PA¡¯s but, I don¡¯t remember them coming with Kadee 802¡¯s.
Early on, AM's scale locomotives didn't come with Kadee's.? Somewhere along the line they started to include a pack of Kadees, probably somewhere in the high 2000's.? My Texas Special E8's, T&P Geeps and MP RS-11's all had a pack included.? When I bought on of the last sets of UP E8's in 2018, they installed the Kadees on the truck talgo arms.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 05:40 AM, Stephen Kutash wrote:
I love the PA¡¯s but, I don¡¯t remember them coming with Kadee 802¡¯s.
Early on, AM's scale locomotives didn't come with Kadee's.? Somewhere along the line they started to include a pack of Kadees, probably somewhere in the high 2000's.? My Texas Special E8's, T&P Geeps and MP RS-11's all had a pack included.? When I bought one of the last sets of UP E8's in 2018, they installed the Kadees on the truck talgo arms.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Bob, I own several AM PA¡¯s, all are in various New Haven paint schemes. I do have an original set of McGinnis PA¡¯s that I haven¡¯t altered yet. I love the PA¡¯s but, I don¡¯t remember them coming with Kadee 802¡¯s. I haven¡¯t had the McGinnis units out in a while and I¡¯ll look at them when I get home tomorrow. I did mount Kadees on all of my engines Stephen J Kutash
203 906-5116 (Cell)
Anthony,? Although my memory has faded somewhat, I believe AM
only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron broke up a set!? And
whether they are PA1 or PA2--who knows?? I also thought that AM
installed 802 Kadee's on scale versions during assembly.? Now SHS
did break up the sets when they were in league with AM for a short
time.? I bought a AB pair but they had just plain individual
cardboard boxes.?
So my suggestion would be to buy either Ed's or my PA sets (I'm
sure both of us will share the wealth between us, should there be
any), chose the unit you want and sell the rest--after all this is
S Scale where our choices can be less than ideal.?
This goes back to what I was just talking about--we don't know
how many units of painted/lettered models have been made, then the
AC/DC/wheel/engine number thing adds more variations.? It's one
thing to buy a raw brass model, but a decorated model is a
different story.? My guess would be a few dozen sets at best were
made and those could have been mixed up in time!?
Bob Werre
PhotoTraxx/BBB
Hi Ed,
Specifically looking for PA1 or PA2. A unit -scale- in NYC.
Regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Anthony,
What Loco's are you looking for?
Ed Sauers
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024
at 11:41?PM Anthony Salvate via
<n1tks= [email protected]>
wrote:
Does anyone in the
group have any firsthand knowledge or thoughts on if
American Models will ever replenish their sold out
locomotive supply?
Best regards,
Anthony Salvate
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Rich,? you are correct in that AM only
sold the New Havens in AA sets--I believe AM's literature states
the fact that the NH didn't have B's.? The NYC 's that I'm selling
was also boxed that way, with the B unit slot covered over with
foam.?
For these marginal runs, ordering
different sized boxes gets expensive.? The same applied to SHS as
they used their AB box with all the cutouts for sound and AF
couplers + the wheels.? So if you ordered a SHS, AA configuration
you probably got two AB set boxes.?
I bought my PA's (A&B) and they
arrived in the same plain boxes many companies send out anything
that fits.? Since the SHS folks knew what I needed I just received
a DC, scale wheels version.
Bob Werre
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On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 09:09 AM, Bob Werre wrote:
I believe AM only sold their PA's as sets unless Ron
broke up a set!?
I have an A-A set (AC Hirail) in a three unit box with the foam
insert for the B-unit in place.? I bought these (I have a
"guilty pleasure" for New Haven...) at an S-Fest last century
from an individual.? I think originally AM offered them as A-A
or A-B-A, although this is the only A-A set I've ever seen.?
Just as well, NH didn't have any PB-units.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Bob Werre
Mark Mugnai