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Re: WTB Junker Downs Tankcars


 

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At age 83 I already have more kits and projects than I am likely to complete in this lifetime, although unlike my contemporary, Ed Loizeaux, I am still buying more in0stead of prudently disposing of them.??

I've managed to buy a couple of the Downs kits over the years, although I have no intention of robbing them of parts to fix the pair of problem children I've just bought.? His instructions in one of them¡ªTK-600--indicate he intended to offer a number of different sizes with different details (as he did, although perhaps not all as kits).? They are fun cars to build and own, providing the cost is not ridiculous¡ªsome sellers are asking well beyond $100 for them.??

Someone told me that he was as likely to use HO decals where they fit as proper S scale ones.? Another source suggested he developed health issues from painting these and all the repaints of mass-production cars (AF, PRS, AM).

He used a limited number of cast components in white metal to fit the PVC pipe bodies, and presumably the variety of paint/lettering schemes kept them selling, particularly to high-rail buyers.? Although I've heard speculation, for some reason the tank end castings for the Canadian Starch cars all developed cracks¡ªall I've seen so far have them¡ªwhich is surprising, as white-metal/sort of pewter normally doesn't develop those the way zamac does in the presence of impurities in the mold.

Returning to my original post, I should have added that I don't need the trucks and couplers from any junkers, just the cast frame ends and brass corner steps.


Jace Kahn



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob Werre <bob@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2024 7:36 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] WTB Junker Downs Tankcars
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Jace in earlier years Downs did offer unpainted kits. As there were several variations in the details, some might have some of those.? I've owned a lot of them over the years including a Tank Train that Mr. Lane ownes now, I think!? I thought of them as a wonderful product.? At one of Jamie's auctions I bought probably the longest version that was offered and it was good on my wallet too.? It took two evening to build so not that hard and parts fit nicely.?

That is also? good reason to still have kits!? Their aren't that many parts to it,--the end caps being the most important then the running boards/ bolster parts.? Of course Rusti probably did okay as he was also able to move his RB trucks in those kits.? I also understand he had some youth involved in the finishing of them.? I think I've got a half dozen of the modern style including two 'beer can' versions!?

Of course the major problem with most tank cars is that they are welded with a slight slope to the center--for drainage--I don't know if that applies to all modern tanks or not.? I was once on assignment for the Houston Belt and Terminal while they were shifting tankcars.? A sudden jerk causes the open valve to discharge a few gallons of some greenish liquid (Ghost Buster's looking).? They called Haz-mat to the scene!?

So Jace, this is a wonderful opportunity to buy out the rights to these cars, have some parts made and your troubles are over!? Then make up some more kits...Heck I'd buy a couple more.

Bob Werre
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If no one can direct me to a source for parts for these, another possibility might be looking for junkers that I could cannibalize for what I need.
Anyone have any?? Preferably cheap?


Jace Kahn



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