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Re: Overland F-7 Drive


 

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I've got an instruction sheet for the Omnicon F unit drive, and that drive is very similar to the one they developed for their resin cast Baldwin Shark shells.

Jim, did the additional B units RRM did have the new drive?? Presuming they were also built by Ajin, were the shells identical to those produced for Overland?

Jace Kahn



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of J. Kindraka <kindrakaj@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2024 8:15 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [S-Scale] Overland F-7 Drive
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Whoa is there some strange history there...? Thanks for clarifying the Omnicon F units Bob.?

Most folks either don't remember or know that River Raisin was a partnership between Dan Navarre and myself from inception in 1987, until I left the partnership at the end of 2007.? By then I was a corporate nomad, living 3 states away so maintaining things was too complicated.? I still number Dan Navarre as one of my absolute best friends, in or out of model railroading.

OMI did the F3 and F7 models, we may have sold some but had nothing to do with the project.? In 1991 we made the FT sets and they had the new or (I prefer) updated drive.? We also made a short run, 50 pieces, of F3/F7 'B' units because people wanted more 'B' units!? At the same time we made 100 redrive kits so existing F3/F7 units would run quieter and match speeds with the FT's.? Everything was delivered in December 1991.? I think Dan posted an all time list of River Raisin projects, versions and dates, on the NASG website when he closed the business.? Somehow everyone loves the website but most people don't go there first for their information!?
Model on...
Jim Kindraka
Grand Rapids, MI

On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 7:52?PM Bob Werre via <bob=[email protected]> wrote:
Bill
Omnicon did indeed put together a drive for F units.? Actually it had NWSL mechanicals and the revamped Enhorning/Wabash Shell.? Dick Karnes did a review of it in the Dispatch.? I owned one for a couple of years but the AM drive won out overall.? Omnicon did offer several painted versions,but there weren't any additional details added sort of making the paint job semi useless.

I also was an owner of a Overland F unit which I bought at the New Brunswick Convention from a very short lived company.? It was noisey so Bill Winans cure might have cured the problem without buying an entirely new chassis.? I finally went for the RR drive and things are smooh.

Bob Werre
Jace:? NASG Dispatch Magazine? 2016 #1 authored by Andy Mallette. Listed as an F7 by Omnicon which is NOT correct in a search for this article on the NASG website.? As far as I know Omnicon NEVER made an F7 just Overland right at the same time RRM was entering the fold. I think Dan Navarre finished that project from Tom Marsh for us all in S Scale. Dan I know through RRM released the? ? Re-drive kits to cure the issues but they also shared the driveshaft length issue in the gear boxes as I recall. It has been a while sorry for my cobwebs and Thanks to Colin for his reminder that that article appeared in the NASG Dispatch or Despatch magazine. Spelling D X spatch depended on who the editor was at the time.
I'll see if I can find that issue - I had it at one time when I rebuilt mine. Andy's advice was about spot on. I just found it easier to use a Teflon plastic transistor insulator the correct diameter instead of having to cut out the circular plastic washers in plastic as Andy describes.
Bill Morris


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