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Re: hypothetical question with a real answer


 

A lot of engines today, especially diesel, and some steam, are offered with road specific and/or period specific details.? HO has been really leading the way on this and the market seems to respond.

Much lower tooling costs (than "back in the day") and making smaller runs mostly to preorders is now common in HO.? The S audience just isn't big enough to expect manufacturers to offer that sort of granularity.

The 3D printing solution is advancing quickly, but so far, somebody has to paint and letter shells.? There may pretty soon be a time when you can ask "I want a C&NW GP7 as it existed as road number 1545 at 4:30 pm Central Time on April 14, 1952 and in S scale" and AI will do the research, make the files, find a suitable printing company, and in a few days, you get your engine shell.? You would still be left having to paint and letter it.? Or find someone to do it (which can be a good niche business for some).? And, of course, chassis are needed.

If we wait a little longer, we will probably be able to get the 3D printed shells already colored and lettered and even "weathered".? These are photos I took in 2019 of ACTUAL 3D printed, in color, examples from a printer in the automotive design area at the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena.? I see this, and I see ready to use engine shells.

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Another photo for scale and also showing other examples.

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So, as we edge nearer to the Star Trek "Replicator", some of the availability concerns may fade away.? And how things are made in HO and N and such may also change.? The typical production run could get down to as low as 1 unit per special order.

Charles E. "Chuck' Kinzer



On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 06:22:25 PM PDT, Shane Lambert <cnwwaseca@...> wrote:


I WAS a real life HO modeler up until last year. I sold (still selling) my HO scale collection to build my S Scale collection.

And I may have one other HO modeler and an N Scale modeler ready to convert to S. Just because I've talked about and shoed t them what I have collected. No, we won't convert everyone, but we can show what's available and convert some.


On Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 7:43 PM Ed Loizeaux via <Loizeaux=[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 02:50 PM, Shane Lambert wrote:
the "not enough stuff available" comment ticks me off.
Unfortunately the "not enough variety" is valid.
Gents....

How many of us have actually sat down with a real-life avid HO modeler and discussed the availability of S products?? Here we are asking ourselves about how to sell S to HO/N modelers but I see no evidence of knowing what the HO guys think about S.

And so, without fanfare, here is what the HO guys in the San Francisco area have told me:? "There is not enough S product available to build the accurate authentic complete layout which I envision."?

Nobody is counting the overall number of diesel engines or box cars or even RTR #6 turnouts on the open market.? Those statistics are meaningless to the HO fellows I mingle with.? If they want to model a particular road at a specific time, then they want as much stuff as possible to help them reach that goal.? Even us NYC fans in S do not have all that much.? For instance, where is a complete 20th Century Limited train?? Or, full-scale-length Budd passenger cars.? Simply not there, folks.? (Don't even mention there is a complicated craftsman kit for them.? Big turnoff in today's world of RTR products.)

When HO guys start to think about it, it does not take much time for them to realize that S does not have enough products for them to reach their ultimate goal.? The overall total number of engines is irrelevant.? It is only the engines they seriously want which count.

"If you cannot buy it, make it" only goes so far and usually not far enough.? A tough situation for sure. ?

Cheers..........
Ed L.?
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Ed Loizeaux
Los Altos, CA

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