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Unusual occurance this side of the pond last night - we had a 4.8 earthquake
centered around the Midlands (you Ok , Mr Porter?).
No big deal in terms of after effects but people are getting very nervous
about this becoming a regular thing.

Paul

Sorry for the NNC (again)

My two-penno'rth to me...

Maybe if I write this down I'll get a more realistic perspective....

For a long time fan...'I Believe in You' was my first real no nonsense Neil
Young classic... I've been rather less than comfortable with the Geffen
period albums.

Recently however I've been listening to LOW and find that I like it ....a
lot....

Forget the souuuuunnnnndddddd for a moment....there are some good catchy
songs on the album and lyrically they are quite clever and precise...'Bad
News Beat' has got to be one of Neil's catchiest and most memorable hooks...

The bash and crash sound must be the reason I've often looked for another
album to listen to...

So listen up folks (I mean me) - Neil did other things as well as Goldrush
and On the Beach...

Time to get to grips with the other lost souls - starting
with................'Life'

SSIA. Thanks much to all who offered. You folks are quick! And generous.

Steve Ullman

I'm not sure what Shoreline you are talking about, but the sound at
Shorline Amp in Mt View CA is anything but excellent if you are not close to
dead center in the reserved sections. If you're off in the side sections,
the sound is not that good. And if you're up on the lawn, especially towards
the back or off to the sides, forget it. The people talking next to you are
easier to hear than the music.

I downloaded some SHN tracks, when I extracted them then played them on
Windows Media Player, I got clicks between tracks, is this normal do they go
away during DAO burn?

RJ
speaking out in Buffalo Springfield MA

My wife and I are massage therapists who are very much
into alternative health, and we're trying very hard to
go organic. I won't get in to a lot of details, but
we do the "Living Foods" diet and eat only raw food.
Our protein comes from homegrown sprouts and
homegrown, homemade wheatgrass juice, and we save so
much money getting our protein for about 25 to 50
cents a pound that we have plenty of money left to
spend on organic fruits and veggies, even though the
store with the best selection gouges us horribly. So,
you can go organic and not go broke, it just takes a
lot of effin' effort.

Steve Taton
Destination Still Unnamed

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Hi You Rusted ones!

bjsleeman provided reviews of FA, including this line: The Truckers tore it
up with three guitars and attitude to open their set ...

I write: Thanks for the reviews! I wish CMT woulda put the Truckers on;
sounds great! I also enjoyed the line from Rolling Stone: several American
Indians...stomped with Young as he performed his lumbering bear dance.
Cheers, Paleojack

I met 4 Canadians from London Ontario while at Farm Aid that were just the
best. Neil fans to the marrow and now friends. They've only seen Neil when
he performed with CSNY in 2000 and 2002.
I'd greatly appreciate it if somebody could trade with me for the following
shows:
CSN&Y Toronto 03/30/00, 03/31/00 and 02/13/02.

Please contact me if you have these shows and want to swaps so I can send
you my list.

A big thank you!
Jorge


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currently lookin for some Tim Buckley shows...anyone got any please mail me off list. tons to trade including TB :-)
steve



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Dear fRed,

Happy Birthday to You,
Happy Birthday to You!

Whether eatin' chili (cold) or spam (hot)
may you have a day where you worry not
that your friends and family love you alot

Whether fRed Sun, Italian Cowboy, or another soon yet-to-be-discovered
handle,
Rusties can always depend on a good, sometimes, longish, ramble
leading in and back out of your mind's memory brambles

For your posts on rust do thrill and delight
provide fuel for fodder and which also just might
have no value other than to reveal your inner light

So here's a toast to you fRed,
from a Texas gal who by now has read
your thoughts about what you've heard or said

Happy Birthday, fRed!

Karen

If you can't cut it,
fRed Sun will recall something

last night david visited his old hometown, he did a GREAT concert,+2.5h.
the band was tight, the sound was right and also the light.

most of the show he gave us his classics, from life on mars up to lets
dance, & china girl, /he even played half of the "low" album/ only a
handful of songs from his recent album.
david was definetely in good mood.
dont know how many people, but the venue was sold out & the people
really enjoyed the show.

the show will prob come out as a dvd or tv-broadcast, a huge film crew
captured erything.

some pics:


sorry my seat wasnt that ideal for the camera,/but who would argue if
one get a free ticket?/ i even couldnt use the flash, security was VERY
TIGHT!

if david comes in your town, show up, you will not regret it!


after the show i had a little mini-rust-fest with FrankB and his son.
so at least a very little nc!

greetings from germany
alexander

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NEIL YOUNG - if hes too loud, you are too old!

In 1994 the Northern California Cancer Center released a thoughtful and
disturbing study that showed the Bay Area had the highest rate of breast
cancer identified anywhere on the planet. That designation is largely
symbolic; the rest of the country has high rates as well

Marin County, for instance, has the Bay Area's highest rate of breast
cancer, yet it is as unpolluted a populated area as you can find in the
country.

Perhaps they were including males/transvestites???
Ya never know.........

hi,

Bought those albums also last saturday: I like them both.
(Ryan Adams & Steve Earle)

I also bought the new Beck album: great music.

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Tom C. brought up an excellent point- that there are many family farmers
that grow crops that are not organic, but still need to be supported. This
year's Farm Aid "theme" or "pitch", whatever one wants to call it, seemed to
have an emphasis on organic foods, but what's most important is the
continuing elimination of the small family farmer by huge corporate farms.
True, many of us cannot afford to buy everything organic (although lately I
have noticed that there's less of a price difference between conventionally
grown and organic produce), we can still do our part, for instance, by
seeking out locally-grown produce that is sold at those mom-and-pop roadside
stands, thanks to the efforts of small family farmers. Their fruits and
vegetables are freshly picked, and even if not organic, tastes quite a bit
better than what can be gotten at a major grocery chain, plus the prices are
the same, or in most cases less expensive !
Lynn

Photos of the ceremony are here:


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And photos of the press conference are here (note the San Jose
Sharks hat on Neil):


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jesus christ, it looks like all the good artists got together in a scheme to
deplete my bank account! new releases tomorrow: beck, steve earle, rns on
dvd, hard day's night on dvd, and then i just found out there are 2 new frank
black albums! ouch, that's gonna hurt, i think i'm gonna have wait to get the
beck on wax (and burn it from a buddy in the meantime!) aerostar

bjsleeman wrote:

Am I the only one who was there for the entire show (2:15 on) who
never saw a group named "Boxstep?" Were they out in another area
somewhere?

The article you just posted said they were on the 2nd stage. I saw the
stage on our way in but never saw anyone performing on it.

bh aka
brown-skinned indian

how ya doin??? hey, you best be careful waving those eagle feather
fans around. i'm not kiddin. you might accidentally send
somebody back in time. on second thought, ask those native
dancers how they do that and come over n tell me. K?
later,
mira

Am I the only one who was there for the entire show (2:15 on) who
never saw a group named "Boxstep?" Were they out in another area
somewhere?

Concert Review: From Boxstep to Nelson, Farm Aid satisfies

Sunday, September 22, 2002

By Ed Masley, Post-Gazette Music Critic

To get the full effect of Farm Aid at the Post-Gazette Pavilion
yesterday, you really had to be there. If you watched it live on
CMT, you missed out on two of the more inspired artists of the day --
Pittsburgh's Boxstep and the Drive-By Truckers.

As the only artist representing local interests, Boxstep occupied a
second stage and got the whole thing rolling with the melancholy
strings and slide guitar of "Ryan's Glacier." An impassioned
performance of "Airport Arrivals" followed as the band reconstructed
the towering wall of sound its fans have come to know and love while
adding yet another brick in Deliberate Stranger Tom Moran, who
brought a mandolin and banjo to the table. Eric Graf was screaming
like a man possessed by old-school Detroit rock 'n' roll on "Route
1," trading lines with Sarah Siplak on a song that peaked with
Erin "Scratchy" Hutter gearing up to take on Charlie Daniels' devil
down in Georgia.

After closing their opening set with an urgent new rocker
called "Salvation is a Subdivision" while people were still
trickling into the venue, Boxstep would return for two more mini-
sets, the first of which they opened with a song whose sound the
band can truly call its own -- garage-punk with two violins.

Even Willie Nelson couldn't bring that kind of edge to Lee Ann
Womack's set. He joined the photogenic country starlet on a song
called "Mendecino County Line" and got a great reaction for his
first onstage appearance of the day. But as for Womack, while her
vocals were nearly as pretty as she is -- and probably three times
as powerful -- her sound was just too slick and unexceptional to do
her voice justice. She should find some roots and get in touch with
them before she's swallowed up by Nashville's hit machine.

Her set was followed by Los Lonely Boys, a soulful band of brothers
whose Latino bar-rock sound was fueled by a guitarist whose obvious
debt to Stevie Ray Vaughn resulted in some flashy lead guitar work.
Anthony Smith was, as noted, "a little bit country, a little bit
rock 'n' roll." Fifteen, 20 years ago, you would've called it
cowpunk. Now, I'm not sure what you'd call it. But he was among the
grittier performers of the day. Until you got to Drive-By Truckers
anyway.

The Truckers tore it up with three guitars and attitude to open
their set with a song called "Sinkhole" that Patterson Hood
introduced as having been inspired by an Oscar-winning film
about "saving the family farm by any means necessary." By the final
verse, the banker who's foreclosing on the family farm is buried in
a sinkhole. They ended their all-too-brief performance two songs
later with "Let There Be Rock," a modern-day Southern Rock classic
about "the rise and fall of arena rock" delivered with a winning
blend of absolute sincerity and grinning irreverence.

Kenny Wayne Shepherd followed with the Double Trouble rhythm section
driving home the debt to Vaughn the young guitarist shares with the
guitarist for Los Lonely Boys. Before the set was out, he'd covered
Hendrix, played guitar behind his head and squeezed out a one-handed
solo.

Keith Urban was charming, cranking out a set of user-friendly modern
country that peaked when Urban dedicated "Song For Dad" to his own
dad, who "did the best that he could." It was sweet.

And sweet is one word you will more than likely never hear applied
to Toby Keith. His unplugged set began with a soft-rocking ballad
about the Taliban that redefined the American art of dumbing issues
down. "I've got a two-bedroom cave," it began. And before it was
through, the Angry American celebrated U.S. bombing in Afghanistan
with "Man, you should've see 'em run," which sounds a lot like New
York City last September. He should rethink that one. In the
meantime, Keith was better when he called out Willie Nelson to
salute the man in song with a novelty tune whose chorus ran, "I'll
never smoke weed with Willie again." Nelson stayed on through the
end of Keith's set, lending a show of support to the flag-waving
boot-in-your-ass approach to foreign policy expressed in the "Angry
American" song.

The understated subtlety of Gillian Welch's two-song bluegrass
intermission proved a welcome change of pace.

That's not to say a lack of subtlety is necessarily a bad thing.
Take Kid Rock, the first performer of the day who was cocky enough
to come on like a rock star. He opened his set with a cover of "Fire
Down Below," an old Bob Seger tune, but really hit his stride
on "American Bad Ass" with its proclamation of "I'm goin' platinum,"
followed by a snippet of the Allman Brothers' "Midnight Rider" as a
segue into "Cowboy" (which, in turn, was interrupted by the "Dukes
of Hazzard" theme). He brought the tempo down for "Picture,"
performed as a seated duet with Allison Moorer. It was nice, a calm
before the raging storm that was Kid Rock's big finish, an explosive
performance of "Bawitdaba."

No act could have touched it in terms of excitement, intensity,
showmanship or fun, which made it just as well that the next song
anybody heard was "Grace is Gone," a downbeat drinking song
performed by Dave Matthews alone on acoustic guitar. His fans will
more than likely disagree, but Matthews' writing benefited greatly
from the stripped-down setting without all the detours he takes with
his band. And it served the emotion of songs as dark
as "Gravedigger" and "Bartender." He closed with a cover of "All
Along the Watchtower," changing the lyrics to "The factory farmer
ruined my earth."

John Mellencamp didn't have to alter anybody's lyrics. He's already
got a song about the farmer, and he knew enough to open with it in a
hit-filled set that also featured "Peaceful World," "Paper in
Fire," "Crumbling Down," an oddly understated "Small Town" (complete
with the boast "My wife was 15 when I wrote this song") and a
rousing "Pink Houses" with Gillian Welch. No artist to that point
had focused more on cranking out the greatest hits and Mellencamp's
efforts at making them happy did not go unnoticed by the audience of
23,257.

Wearing a bright red T-shirt that practically screamed its
message, "Stop Factory Farms," in big white letters, Neil Young
opened with a stark, emotional reading of "Old Man." And from that
point out, he alternated heartfelt solo renditions of classic
material -- "Heart of Gold" to "Harvest Moon" -- with pleas to help
the family farmer.

"This is what it's all about," he said, "people like you coming to
hear music and hear what's going on about the farmers." Encouraging
fans to buy organic food, he noted that "good food is grown on
farms. Bad food is grown in factories. Good food is safe. Factory
food is ugly." He moved from acoustic guitar to organ and brought
out Mickey Raphael to play the harp for a delicate, heartbreaking
version of "Mother Earth." But first, he joked, "Attention shoppers.
Buy with a conscience and save the family farm."

Switching to upright piano, he poured his heart into a fragile
rendition of "After the Gold Rush," changing the lyrics to, "Look at
Mother Nature on the run in the 21st Century." Nelson and Native
American dancers joined him as he closed with two more
classics, "Comes a Time" and "Sugar Mountain," sent out with "love
for the family farmer and all you people who support what we're
doing."

Nelson brought the party to a close with a set that began, as is
Nelson tradition, with a trip down "Whiskey River." His band kept it
loose and alive as Nelson wrapped the most distinctive voice in
country music, if not pop, around such Nelson standards as "Good
Hearted Woman" and "Mammas, Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be
Cowboys," in addition to a song about the plight of family farmers,
introduced as "kind of the reason we're all here, that brings us
back year after year." In the song, he refers to a "hole in the sky
where God used to be," while the chorus begins "My American dream
fell apart at the seams."