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Winlink + VARA on Pi 5 tests


 

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Greetings,

I thought I’d share my results thus far here. YMMV, of course, but this is what I’ve found in my testing.

Setup

Icom IC-7100 with Chameleon EmComm III Base antenna
Raspberry Pi 5 with Raspberry Pi OS (Linux hampi 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1 (2023-11-24) aarch64 GNU/Linux)
Wine + Box86 + Box64

Results

With some help from a couple of youtube videos and tips here on this list, I got things running. (The version of Box64 was really important.) I did initial testing with my Icom 7200 and a dummy load on the antenna. Rig comms were pretty easy to get working.

Then I moved to my 7100 with the real antenna.

Linux-based ham radio apps worked really well. I use GridTracker for logging and jtdx for FT8 a lot, so I got those going first. I also got flrig running so I could set rig parameters (e.g., power level) easily. All of these worked fine, although I occasionally have to reset audio device names in setup. (Not sure why, but they’d occasionally “forget” prior functioning configurations.) For GridTracker, I use UDP forwarding to send my log entries to my Mac running MacLogger. Worked flawlessly.

And then I started working with Winlink Express, VARA HF, and VARA FM. The good news is I got them all working and was able to send and receive emails via RMS as well as P2P. (I run an alternate NCS for Winlink Wednesday, so Winlink P2P mode matters greatly to me.)

The bad news is that stability is not ideal. Sometimes, when I switch from RMS to P2P, I get an error saying the TNC couldn’t initialize the server on 127.0.0.1. That seemed to be largely due to device resources being released slowly. If I waited a minute or two, it would usually work, but not always. I could manually kill windows process and that seemed to do it, but not every single time.

Even merely running for extended periods of time was not stable. I put my rig into VARA HF P2P mode and sent/received email with a buddy about 500 miles away (Alexandria, VA to Nashville, TN). It worked, bidirectionally just fine. But, after a couple hours, Winlink Express would sometimes die without warning or user interaction. Just poof and it was gone.

Conclusion

As of right now (Feb 2024), I feel the setup is great for lightweight portable operations. POTA would be awesome. Low power and light weight. Certainly, all the Linux ham apps ran like champs. My family and I take week-long trips to the North Carolina Outer Banks beaches often, and this will be my go-to for radio comms there. I run entirely on solar power + battery there, and this setup should be just fine. (Even better once the USB-C power issues are figured out completely.)

But, I am NOT ready to run it as my Winlink Wednesday station, though. I’ll stick with windows (ptui!) for now on that. When a windows (ptui!) app has better stability than a Linux one, that’s bad news. I hope things improve on that front, and I have no doubt they will.

Cheers,

Ken van Wyk, K0RvW
Armata Scientia





 

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project helps with some stability fyi?

k


 

On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 11:53 PM, Kenneth R. van Wyk wrote:
I got things running. (The version of Box64 was really important.)
Hi Ken and all ...
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I am having issues getting PTT to work with VARA HF ....
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My Pi5 has the latest (11JAN2025) 64bit Bookworm installed, with Pi-Apps and that is about all. It is all running on a 64Gb micro-sd-card.
?
So I had a go at installing the latest edition of "Winelink - RMS Express - VARA" from the command line. The install went well.
I have setup RMS Express with my credentials, and setup VARA HF with my licence details.?
?
But,?I can not get an RMS Express / VARA HF Winlink session to trigger the PTT in the VARA modem.
RMS Express with an Ardop session works fine. PTT is OK with that, but VARA is a non event.
?
One thing that may be related, is that RMS Express is not recognizing my VARA licence.
?
I have also tried VarAC v10.2.1 on the Pi5, but it also refuses to activate the PTT for a 'beacon' session.? If I click on the "tune" button in VarAC, it also tells me that my VARA is not licenced.
But, in the setup section of VarAC, where you get to test your COM setup, PTT works! So, that is promising.?
??
I have been using RMS Express / VARA successfully for sometime now with Windoze10, so I do know how to set it up properly.? I even have an RMS Express / VARA HF setup running fine on one of my Pi4s using a BAP3 version of KM4ACK's? 32bit software.
?
So, any ideas of what may be preventing the PTT function in VARA would be welcome.
?
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73 de Pete VK3PYE


 

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Hi Pete,?

I am having the same problem running pi5 RMS Express/VARA and VarAC/VARA and APRIS32/VARA.

73, Denis

WB8SKP


On 1/11/2025 10:12 PM, Peter VK3PYE via groups.io wrote:

On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 11:53 PM, Kenneth R. van Wyk wrote:
I got things running. (The version of Box64 was really important.)
Hi Ken and all ...
?
I am having issues getting PTT to work with VARA HF ....
?
My Pi5 has the latest (11JAN2025) 64bit Bookworm installed, with Pi-Apps and that is about all. It is all running on a 64Gb micro-sd-card.
?
So I had a go at installing the latest edition of "Winelink - RMS Express - VARA" from the command line. The install went well.
I have setup RMS Express with my credentials, and setup VARA HF with my licence details.?
?
But,?I can not get an RMS Express / VARA HF Winlink session to trigger the PTT in the VARA modem.
RMS Express with an Ardop session works fine. PTT is OK with that, but VARA is a non event.
?
One thing that may be related, is that RMS Express is not recognizing my VARA licence.
?
I have also tried VarAC v10.2.1 on the Pi5, but it also refuses to activate the PTT for a 'beacon' session.? If I click on the "tune" button in VarAC, it also tells me that my VARA is not licenced.
But, in the setup section of VarAC, where you get to test your COM setup, PTT works! So, that is promising.?
??
I have been using RMS Express / VARA successfully for sometime now with Windoze10, so I do know how to set it up properly.? I even have an RMS Express / VARA HF setup running fine on one of my Pi4s using a BAP3 version of KM4ACK's? 32bit software.
?
So, any ideas of what may be preventing the PTT function in VARA would be welcome.
?
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73 de Pete VK3PYE


 

Hi Denis.
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On the 64bit OS, I had a look at VARA's log and it tells me that it is not communicating with any apps on port 8300.? That is strange, as the RMS - VARA HF session can see VARA on port 8300. But it does explain why RMS Express can not see my registration.
?
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Yesterday (12JAN2025) I installed the 32bit Bookworm OS on the Pi5 and got RMS Express and VARA working, but it is much buggier on the 32bit. I used Pi-Apps to get VARA? installed then installed RMS Express manually.
?
?I will keep you posted if i can find out what's going on.
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73 de Pete VK3PYE


 

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Thanks Pete, If I find anything I will let you know.

73, Denis

On 1/12/2025 4:13 PM, Peter VK3PYE via groups.io wrote:

Hi Denis.
?
On the 64bit OS, I had a look at VARA's log and it tells me that it is not communicating with any apps on port 8300.? That is strange, as the RMS - VARA HF session can see VARA on port 8300. But it does explain why RMS Express can not see my registration.
?
?
Yesterday (12JAN2025) I installed the 32bit Bookworm OS on the Pi5 and got RMS Express and VARA working, but it is much buggier on the 32bit. I used Pi-Apps to get VARA? installed then installed RMS Express manually.
?
?I will keep you posted if i can find out what's going on.
-----
73 de Pete VK3PYE


 

Denis, looks like this has been reported as an "issue" on the Wheezy Github site -- "https://github.com/WheezyE/Winelink/issues/91" ..? "Vara HF PTT issue #91", but no reply from "Mr Wheezy" as yet.
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I had a look at what the ports were doing, and when I had an RMS Exress / Ardop session going, ports 8200 & 8201 were in LISTENING mode, which is what they suppose to be doing it seems ...
?
Then I opened an RMS Express / VARA session and the VARA ports 8300 &? 8301 were not showing, so that seems to be the issue -- the ports that VARA tries to use do not open.
?
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73 de Pete VK3PYE


 

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Thank you Pete, I hope that will be fixed.

73, Denis


On 1/13/2025 11:58 PM, Peter VK3PYE via groups.io wrote:

Denis, looks like this has been reported as an "issue" on the Wheezy Github site -- ..? "Vara HF PTT issue #91", but no reply from "Mr Wheezy" as yet.
?
I had a look at what the ports were doing, and when I had an RMS Exress / Ardop session going, ports 8200 & 8201 were in LISTENING mode, which is what they suppose to be doing it seems ...
?
Then I opened an RMS Express / VARA session and the VARA ports 8300 &? 8301 were not showing, so that seems to be the issue -- the ports that VARA tries to use do not open.
?
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73 de Pete VK3PYE