On Wednesday, January 31st, 2024 at 14:20, w9ran <ranickels@...> wrote:

 Used to be, I'd download an image, flash it, and be good to go. Today I
 downloaded the current version of Bookworm and finally gave up after
 four attempts using Balena Etcher and two different TF cards and two
 different USB adapters. Failed verification every time, and to make
 sure it wasn't just Windows messing with the card, I tried each one in a
 Pi 4 and none would boot with a message saying to "insert SD card".
 Finally went to the 32 bit version and it worked the first time, no
 verification errors with everything else the same.

Were you trying to boot the new OS image on a RasPi Zero, 1, or 2?  A
64-bit OS image not working implies that you were trying to run it on a
32-bit only unit.

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On 1/31/2024 6:14 PM, N5XMT wrote:

Being on the raspberry pi forums and also beta testing, I have not seen any instances of, or complaints about it failing verification.? If you are using the latest version, I would suspect your USB to Micro SD adapter or USB port.

Well I tried again, using the latest Imager downloaded today and the 64 bit Bookworm version and it failed verification as usual. "Error reading from storage.? SD card may be broken".

So I thought let's try to get some data.? I found a memory card tester called H2testw and ran it and sure enough, here are the results:

Warning: Only 14751 of 14752 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
14.4 GByte OK (30209326 sectors)
361 KByte DATA LOST (722 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
361 KByte corrupted (722 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x000000002bd92200
Expected: 0x000000002bd92200
Found: 0x2200220022002200
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 7.74 MByte/s
Reading speed: 17.5 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4

Just a guess, but a loss of 361KB out of 16MB might be tolerable if you're recording video or other applications where a checksum isn't done...and this is a Toshiba branded TF card, not some bargain-basement special.???? So maybe the Imager is telling me the truth after all ;-)

73, Bob W9RAN

On 1/31/2024 3:58 PM, David Ranch wrote:

 One could argue if even the official Raspberry Pi OS repos or even the 
 Debian repos do #2 or #3 but the existing "Debian process" does a 
 decent job on #1.

I don't know what's going on...

Used to be, I'd download an image, flash it, and be good to go. Today I 
downloaded the current version of Bookworm and finally gave up after 
four attempts using Balena Etcher and two different TF cards and two 
different USB adapters.?? Failed verification every time,? and to make 
sure it wasn't just Windows messing with the card, I tried each one in a 
Pi 4 and none would boot with a message saying to "insert SD card".? 
Finally went to the 32 bit version and it worked the first time, no 
verification errors with everything else the same.

And that process is all because I've given up trying to use the 
Raspberry Pi Imager - it fails verification every time and others say 
their experience has been the same.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the code (because I doubt 
there is) but when the way of proving integrity is a checksum and it 
fails, who knows?

73, Bob W9RAN

Crash club.? I think I've overpaid my dues to this club over the years.? I like it.
I'm currently testing the rmsgw without beacon running at all, see if I can make it past two days.? Telling the TNC to beacon should be easy and that is next on my list.? I think the final production deployment for our club gateway will be on an x86 system, a GMKTEK N5105, also using a TNC.? The out the door price for that pc is really close to all the peripherals needed to deploy a Pi, and we have bigger plans for the system, not just RMSGW.? For other club members who want the pi solution at their home (like myself) I want to figure it out.

Here is my current kernel on the Pi-1.?? Linux rms-gw 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v6 #1 Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1 (2023-11-24) armv6l GNU/Linux
And the kernel on the Pi-3 which has the same issue.? Linux wa6bgs-rms 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v7 #1 SMP Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1 (2023-11-24) armv7l GNU/Linux

I do have a serial console attached to the Pi-1 to catch kernel panic messages.
Here is the string I saw from prior crashes.? I was only able to capture some because I had journalctl -af running in a shell.? The serial console prints this automatically.

Some crash strings from this month.
Jan 25 19:22:40 wa6bgs-rms kernel: CPU: 0 PID: 976 Comm: beacon Tainted: G??????? WC???????? 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v7 #1? Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1
Jan 26 09:06:37 wa6bgs-rms kernel: CPU: 0 PID: 988 Comm: beacon Tainted: G???????? C???????? 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v7 #1? Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1
[208158.485745] CPU: 0 PID: 850 Comm: beacon Tainted: G???????? C???????? 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v6 #1? Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1

And this happened when the system was only up for 3.5 hours, and I ran the beacon command manually.
root@rms-gw:~# beacon -c WA6BGS -d "beacon" -s radio "RMS Gate = WA6BGS-10"
It crashed instantly.
[12716.423664] CPU: 0 PID: 1217 Comm: beacon Tainted: G???????? C???????? 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v6 #1? Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1

This is when I was convinced beacon was causing the problem.?
Going back one raspbian release is possible, but not permanent.

It is under heavy development you can use?


to keep box/wine packages functioning well on a pi

k

Sheesh haha this group …

David have you found a 5a PD USB C yet

I have not found one yet - thanks for the tip on the POE hat it’s not
13v but interesting - I could link you to the details I was
referencing but - I’m gonna walk on this thread

if I find something I will make sure to post it here we will likely
all watch some YouTuber post it at the same time hihi

happy field day all Kelly saying 73

I saw a YouTube video on doing an install from *.tar.z. all went well until the "git" command.? The Rpi O/S didn't support it.

Like I said, I'm new to Linux.? Your first response made virtually zero sense to me.

Your elaboration helped a lot.

I'm an old dog with bits of education in Fortran, Basic, Unix, and C. I have a hobbiests interest in computers but my career was built around highway and bridge construction.? I spent significant time analyzing data on the National Bridge Inventory using Structured Query Language.? I'm not ashamed to point out my limits to speed my education, so I thank you for?your help.

On Tue, Jan 30, 2024, 16:59 Edward Seeliger <eseeliger@...> wrote:

Good evening Terry.
As I said in my updated post, the sdrpp_debian_bookworm_amd64.deb will install but will not run on RPi5 / BookwormOS / X11 desktop.
The sdrpp_raspios_bullseye.deb package will not install.
The install command is :
sudo apt install xxxxx.

To remove / uninstall :
sudo apt remove xxxx

So we must wait for an installable version for the RPi5 / Bookworm OS or you can build from src (source code) which is also available on the site - but that is a much more involved process.

Edd - KD5M