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Interesting!? I've never heard of this service but it could be a good thing.? A bunch of questions then become to mind:

?? 1. What kind of integrity / providence checks are made for me to trust this solution in it getting trustworthy / legit code?

?? 2. I've looked at a few of the included applications and many are just coming from the Raspberry Pi OS repos, maybe downloading flatpats, etc.? This seems like this is a form of an "appstore" that helps users download stuff from other places though it's not clear if those sources are really the newest, etc.

?? 3. It's unclear if these downloaded programs will be the bleeding edge versionof each application, maybe the most stable version?? Are they actually tested?


One could argue if even the official Raspberry Pi OS repos or even the Debian repos do #2 or #3 but the existing "Debian process" does a decent job on #1.

--David
KI6ZHD

They are, I was hopeful he had more ideas of action and excitement for delivering power to a pi5?

k

Both are excellent articles.

Thanks,
Russell
KG5NSR

Crash club.? I think I've overpaid my dues to this club over the years.? I like it.
I'm currently testing the rmsgw without beacon running at all, see if I can make it past two days.? Telling the TNC to beacon should be easy and that is next on my list.? I think the final production deployment for our club gateway will be on an x86 system, a GMKTEK N5105, also using a TNC.? The out the door price for that pc is really close to all the peripherals needed to deploy a Pi, and we have bigger plans for the system, not just RMSGW.? For other club members who want the pi solution at their home (like myself) I want to figure it out.

Here is my current kernel on the Pi-1.?? Linux rms-gw 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v6 #1 Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1 (2023-11-24) armv6l GNU/Linux
And the kernel on the Pi-3 which has the same issue.? Linux wa6bgs-rms 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v7 #1 SMP Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1 (2023-11-24) armv7l GNU/Linux

I do have a serial console attached to the Pi-1 to catch kernel panic messages.
Here is the string I saw from prior crashes.? I was only able to capture some because I had journalctl -af running in a shell.? The serial console prints this automatically.

Some crash strings from this month.
Jan 25 19:22:40 wa6bgs-rms kernel: CPU: 0 PID: 976 Comm: beacon Tainted: G??????? WC???????? 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v7 #1? Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1
Jan 26 09:06:37 wa6bgs-rms kernel: CPU: 0 PID: 988 Comm: beacon Tainted: G???????? C???????? 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v7 #1? Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1
[208158.485745] CPU: 0 PID: 850 Comm: beacon Tainted: G???????? C???????? 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v6 #1? Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1

And this happened when the system was only up for 3.5 hours, and I ran the beacon command manually.
root@rms-gw:~# beacon -c WA6BGS -d "beacon" -s radio "RMS Gate = WA6BGS-10"
It crashed instantly.
[12716.423664] CPU: 0 PID: 1217 Comm: beacon Tainted: G???????? C???????? 6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v6 #1? Raspbian 1:6.1.63-1+rpt1

This is when I was convinced beacon was causing the problem.?
Going back one raspbian release is possible, but not permanent.

It is under heavy development you can use?


to keep box/wine packages functioning well on a pi

k

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? Hi Jon,

Very interesting and welcome to the crash club :) . ?Could you share what kernel version you are on? ?I'm on?6.1.0-rpi7-rpi-v8. ?I also match on the ax25 package versions up to the "+" sign; since we are on different architectures, the package version won't be an exact match. ?Same here for rmsgw, N7NIX built from source.

If you can hook up a serial console, I'd recommend it. ?That would allow you to copy/paste the crash messages. ?Make sure you have a TTL level serial adapter.

I would recommend moving the beacon to the TNC or just turning it off for a few days. ?You may find the system still crashes, which would be diagnostic. ?In my case a different process triggered the crash, so the serial console would be important.

? Cheers
? Mike

Hi David,

No, the Linux "listen" program can print out TXed packets but you need to enable that feature with the "-a" option:

?? ?????? "-a??????? Allow for the monitoring of outgoing frames as well as incoming ones."

? What I mean by this is that a client and a service sharing the same ax port will never hear each other. ?If rmsgw listens for -10 on ax0 and pat tries to call -10 on ax0, the two will never connect. ?I built the loopback to solve this problem.

Ok, this is the second part of new news.? Pat is making an outbound connection via a local digi and back to your Raspberry Pi.? Now to be clear, are you digipeating or NODEing out and back?? I ask because when you NODE around, your SSID gets decremented by one.? That nuance might matter here.

? ?So, nomenclature here to make sure we are on the same page, by digipeating you mean adding a digipeater to the initial connection, correct? ?Versus NODEing, where you make an initial connection to a NODE and make a second, in-band connection to the destination? ?In that context, definitely digipeating. ?In general form, the pat connect alias looks like this: ?ax25://dw12/DIGI/MYRMS-10 where "dw12" is the ax port, DIGI is any digipeater, and MYRMS-10 is rmsgw on the Pi.

That's a LOT of power for only being so close to each other.? Can you put them in to "EL" or Extra Low mode which is 0.5w?? That might help here.? I would also argue that moving them father apart and also onto different Z-planes aka elevation might help if this is really an RFI issue.? If it is RFI related, I would expect to see other errors like USB device drops, etc.

I'm not sure what you mean here by "close to each other". ?Are you referring to distance between Pi and radio, or are you talking about my RF partners? ?I actually think 10w is pretty conservative, given my closest RF partners are 25-30 miles away. ?I did run this radio at 5w for a few years, but noticed that distant partners were unreliable at that power setting. ?I would be glad to test with the power set to "low", but I don't have an "EL" option. ?Again, a single radio being controlled by a single Pi (PROD). ?You used the plural "them" when referring to "EL" setting as if maybe you thought I had 2 radios, but I don't.

The Z-plane confused me for a minute because I was thinking cartesian coordinates, but you must be referring to an antenna coordinate system where Z runs up and down (parallel to gravity). ?In that coordinate system, the relationship between radio and Pi would be described as the radio at the origin, and the Pi is at x=0, y=0, z=-3 where units are in feet. ?To paint a word picture, the radio is mounted on the top of a bakers rack, with the Pi directly underneath, but 3 shelves down. ?If I moved the Pi, the best distance I could practically get would be x=-2, y=-8 and z=-5. ?It would take me a while to get the lengths of cables needed to make that happen.

Swapping the SD cards around might help here and I imagine that "LEGACY" os is using an older kernel that might not have these AX.25 issues.? Did that LEGACY setup also have rmsgw and Pat running at the same time on it?? In addition to this test and since you have multiple PIs, you might consider splitting apart of the Pat and rmsgw onto different Pis.? That might help isolate the issue as well.

My thought was actually swapping the whole Pi (LEGACY for TEST). ?The value in the LEGACY unit is that it is a known quantity; working software, firmware and hardware in the RF environment. ?Besides, LEGACY is a Pi3, where TEST is a Pi4, so I don't think a swapped SD would boot. ?Correct, LEGACY is an older build, maybe jessie or buster, but definitely an older kernel. ?LEGACY has both rmsgw and Pat; it's nearly an identical configuration to PROD/TEST, just older software versions. ?However, LEGACY was using different sound hardware, a UDRC-II. ?I would pry the UDRC-II off the header and use the CM108 usb adapter from TEST.

As for splitting up rmsgw and Pat, I decided that I would just turn off Pat for a test cycle. ?If the Pi crashes, then we know that the kernel blaming Pat is a red-herring. ?Since we need some traffic to trigger the crash, I've been just axcall'ing to another node and disconnecting on occasion.

? Thanks
? Mike

Looking for answers on this specifically, I see others are having the same problem.? Beacon seems to be in the panic string each time my Pi crashes.? I'm using a Nino TNC, Raspbian Bookworm 32 bit, and can duplicate the crash on a Pi-3 and Pi-1.? I needed a serial console to capture the full crash content.? If I launch beacon to fork into the background, sending a station beacon every 35 minutes, the system crashes after about 2 days.? I can also get the system to crash sometimes if I invoke beacon to do a one-time send.

I'm trying to setup RMSGW for Winlink mail.? Using the distro supplied packages for ax25-tools and ax25-apps, and the N7NIX source for rmwgw.? This is a new install.
ax25-tools???? 0.0.10-rc5+git20190411+3595f87-6
ax25-apps????? 0.0.8-rc5+git20190411+0ff1383-5

Without beacon, it is fairly stable on Pi-1 and Pi-3.
Yes, the Pi-1 is kind of slow, but the TNC is doing the work.? The TNC can also beacon on its own - an option I have on my list to try.

Good evening Terry.
As I said in my updated post, the sdrpp_debian_bookworm_amd64.deb will install but will not run on RPi5 / BookwormOS / X11 desktop.
The sdrpp_raspios_bullseye.deb package will not install.
The install command is :
sudo apt install xxxxx.

To remove / uninstall :
sudo apt remove xxxx

So we must wait for an installable version for the RPi5 / Bookworm OS or you can build from src (source code) which is also available on the site - but that is a much more involved process.

Edd - KD5M

Hi Edd. Ive downloaded the SDRpp*.deb file but i'm a newby to LINUX so I don't know where to go from here. is there a command for the command line interface that will install from that?

Here's my layout.

Pi 5 8gb w/ 64 bit RPi o/s & bookworm .

tnx Terry KGoDU

Good afternoon Terry. Try here and pick?

That package will install on RPI5 Raspian but will not run.
The raspios_bullseye package will not install
JTDX and WSJTX can be installed (on Bookworm / X11 desktop) with sudo apt install.
FLDigi / FLRig and MSHV can be built from source.

Edd - KD5M

Terry here is a rough project to load up some ham apps?

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I just received an update from SparkFun regarding my three month delayed Rpi5 Essential kit order.? The prospect of them taking another MONTH is rather surprising to me and in some respects, I might just keep my order with them to see if they ever follow through.? At the same time, I see that Parallax just received a shipment of 500 Rpi5 8GB models though I don't know if those are just the bare boards or some level of a kit.

--David
KI6ZHD


From: Maria Henderson from Sparkfun <support@...>
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We sincerely apologize for the delay in processing your order. The shipment is anticipated to be dispatched in mid to late February. ?We acknowledge the inconvenience this delay may have caused and sincerely appreciate your understanding and patience in this matter. Please advise if you would like to cancel your order and receive a full refund. Thank you!