Re: Raspberry pi ham radio setup software
Hurt what? We have more installation methods than we need that are causing people confusion. We need ONE installer that is comprehensive and works with ALL Linux systems that can be understood by all users.
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On 28/05/2023 15:06 EDT Jerry Rector - K4OAM <kb4oam@...> wrote:
I have to whole-heartedly agree with Kelly and Jay....emails such as Nigel's hurt, rather than help the hobby.
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Re: Raspberry pi ham radio setup software
Jerry,
?? You are so correct. Discouraging one? might cause others to shy away from forward thinking or thinking out of the box. He should of found out from the question why and help with explaining their view on how easy iy was with him and give directions how he did it. This is my 2 cents worth.
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Allen Higgins
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Re: Raspberry pi ham radio setup software
I have to whole-heartedly? agree with Kelly and Jay....emails such as Nigel's hurt, rather than help the hobby.
I applaud any user taking the time to 'dip their toes in the water', and come up with their own methods for increasing offerings to the ham community.
Not everyone has tried Build-A-Pi/73 Linux or HamPi or DragonOS for ham-radio software suites, and as such, might find Mark's efforts to contribute something additionally worthwhile to the community a nice effort.
PLEASE, don't discourage individuals who want to benefit our 'mostly 'gracious user community.
Respectfully, Jerry - K4OAM
On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 1:23?PM Kelly K7MHI via <kellykeeton= [email protected]> wrote: On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 08:57 AM, Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
We don't need any more.
need anymore what? OM? emails like that?
or helpful people to assist others in moving down the path? I also write an installer not as polished off. so add another to the list of confusion.
full respect I understand your comment but to just be a old linux ham and say stuff like "we dont need any more" I actually think we do, windows 11 is horrible and getting worse so move everyone to linux!?
as the OP who was just kindly showing off his project and likely wasn't expecting the sour grapes if you read the readme for his project - its hard not to agree. The other projects out there are done by hams who dont program; and bash has issues where Ansible helps with the collisions a bit. (bash vs Ansible debate never ends)
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I never did see the "DUR" user group project take off installer scripts like AUR did so .. shrug whats the difference to another installer? when I work with new linux users the "another installer" issue isnt normally the problems its getting them to use the command line and teaching them TAB will help them.
anywho just a ransom transmission?
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On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 08:57 AM, Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
We don't need any more.
need anymore what? OM? emails like that? or helpful people to assist others in moving down the path? I also write an installer not as polished off. so add another to the list of confusion. full respect I understand your comment but to just be a old linux ham and say stuff like "we dont need any more" I actually think we do, windows 11 is horrible and getting worse so move everyone to linux!? as the OP who was just kindly showing off his project and likely wasn't expecting the sour grapes if you read the readme for his project - its hard not to agree. The other projects out there are done by hams who dont program; and bash has issues where Ansible helps with the collisions a bit. (bash vs Ansible debate never ends) --- I never did see the "DUR" user group project take off installer scripts like AUR did so .. shrug whats the difference to another installer? when I work with new linux users the "another installer" issue isnt normally the problems its getting them to use the command line and teaching them TAB will help them. anywho just a ransom transmission? 73
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Re: Raspberry pi ham radio setup software
...and that's the problem. If someone can create a simple installation and maintenance facility for Hams, I applaud them! -- Jay
WB2QQJ
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Linux already has at leas half a dozen methods of software installation and maintenance. That's what confuses some people. We don't need any more. On 28/05/2023 09:38 EDT Jay Lijoi <lijoi@...> wrote:
I wish you well. Linux needs a more realistic method for software installation and maintenance. I appreciate you helping the Amateur Radio community.
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Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@... www
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Re: Raspberry pi ham radio setup software
Nice ?.. where is Qsstv?! :)
kelly?
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Re: Raspberry pi ham radio setup software
I wish you well. Linux needs a more realistic method for software installation and maintenance. I appreciate you helping the Amateur Radio community. -- Jay
WB2QQJ
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Raspberry pi ham radio setup software
Hey RaspberryPi 4 Ham Radio Group,
So I have been working on a project for some time now and I finally feel that it's ready for some other folks to take a look at it and test it out. If you're into using raspberry pi computers for ham radio I have created a repository of scripts/playbooks to setup, compile and maintain/update radio tools on the pi. I finally released a version 1.0.0 at There is some basic documentation in the README file stars and issues appreciated if you find anything. I have been testing on the latest raspberry pi OS and often use VNC to power my pis connected to radios in the shack. This isn't focused on portable operating out of the box but I do have scripts for setting up things like GPS time sync and real time clock modules. You may ask why you would use this over build a pi or other tools. The primary reason I created these was because Ansible(configuration management tool I'm using) is better at maintaining state than bash scripts and preventing redundant work during setup or updates. Thanks for any feedback and I hope someone finds it useful!
73,
DE K2EXE Mark
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Maybe some good news! See attached article:
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Re: what is the proper way to install Python
If you need a later release of Python, such as version 3.10 for AutoGPT, you can add later distributions to /etc/apt/sources.list. You can edit this file (as root) using your favorite text editor. To add custom sources, creating separate files under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is preferred. See man 5 sources.list: Distributions: * DebianTesting: current development state of the next stable Debian distribution * DebianUnstable: rolling development version containing the latest packages See: Video: How do you get a fresh install of Debian Unstable (Sid)? Well, there are three routes you could take. I show you my preferred method of installing Sid. See: Larry WB6BBB On Fri, 19 May 2023 17:57:35 -0700, "David Ranch" <rpi4hamradio-groupsio@...> wrote: I would recommend to stick with the version that comes with the Raspberry Pi OS distribution:
sudo apt install python3
For modules, etc, I also recommend to try to stick with the OS supported
versions. You can see what's available with:
apt-cache search python3
--David
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Re: what is the proper way to install Python
And some course work for python 102, arguably years ago I would have said this was 201 but virtual environments and use of them can really keep a clean slate if your wanting that. Lots of projects use them now as well.?
kelly
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Re: what is the proper way to install Python
Hello Arnold,
It should be installed by default (even on the Lite version).?
Regardless, I would recommend to stick with the version that comes
with the Raspberry Pi OS distribution:
?? sudo apt install python3
For modules, etc, I also recommend to try to stick with the OS
supported versions.? You can see what's available with:
?? apt-cache search python3
--David
KI6ZHD
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what is the proper way to install Python
What is the most proper way to install Python in a fresh Bullseye OS, lite version OS?
I believe it's easy, but this time I want to make sure I'm doing it properly.
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Thanks, Arnold
KQ6DI
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As far as wifi differences, 3B is only 2.4ghz. 3B+ is dual band 2.4ghz and 5ghz
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On May 19, 2023, at 09:06, Jerry Rector - K4OAM < kb4oam@...> wrote:
Sorry Randy, you misspoke on this.
I also have 3-3Bs and 4-3B+s, and all have onboard WiFi.
They are all used as IOT devices, connected via WiFi with
no external adapters.
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:43?AM Randy Greig < ve3yrg@...> wrote:
No, the Pi3b does not have Wireless, the Pi3B+ has wireless. I have both.
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And I have multiples of both.
Direct from raspberry pi foundations web site:
Raspberry Pi 3 Model B is the earliest model of the third-generation Raspberry Pi. It replaced Raspberry Pi 2 Model B in February 2016. See also Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+, the latest product in the Raspberry Pi 3 range.
Quad Core 1.2GHz Broadcom BCM2837 64bit CPU
1GB RAM
BCM43438 wireless LAN and Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) on board
100 Base Ethernet
40-pin extended GPIO
4 USB 2 ports
4 Pole stereo output and composite video port
Full size HDMI
CSI camera port for connecting a Raspberry Pi camera
DSI display port for connecting a Raspberry Pi touchscreen display
Micro SD port for loading your operating system and storing data
Upgraded switched Micro USB power source up to 2.5A
The Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ is the final revision in the Raspberry Pi 3 range.
Broadcom BCM2837B0, Cortex-A53 (ARMv8) 64-bit SoC @ 1.4GHz
1GB LPDDR2 SDRAM
2.4GHz and 5GHz IEEE 802.11.b/g/n/ac wireless LAN, Bluetooth 4.2, BLE
Gigabit Ethernet over USB 2.0 (maximum throughput 300 Mbps)
Extended 40-pin GPIO header
Full-size HDMI
4 USB 2.0 ports
CSI camera port for connecting a Raspberry Pi camera
DSI display port for connecting a Raspberry Pi touchscreen display
4-pole stereo output and composite video port
Micro SD port for loading your operating system and storing data
5V/2.5A DC power input
Power-over-Ethernet (PoE) support (requires separate PoE HAT)
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On May 19, 2023, at 05:43, Randy Greig < ve3yrg@...> wrote:
No, the Pi3b does not have Wireless, the Pi3B+ has wireless. I have both.
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Sorry Randy, you misspoke on this.
I also have 3-3Bs and 4-3B+s, and all have onboard WiFi.
They are all used as IOT devices, connected via WiFi with no external adapters.
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:43?AM Randy Greig < ve3yrg@...> wrote: No, the Pi3b does not have Wireless, the Pi3B+ has wireless. I have both.
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Not true.? The original 3B does have Wifi onboard:
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?? BCM43438 wireless LAN and Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) on
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--David
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On 05/18/2023 04:09 PM, Randy Greig
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No, the Pi3b does not have Wireless, the Pi3B+ has
wireless. I have both.
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No, the Pi3b does not have Wireless, the Pi3B+ has wireless. I have both.
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All pi3's are wireless
Pi2 was the last full size pi without wireless. PiZero is the only one still made without wireless
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On May 17, 2023, at 15:51, Dennis Valliant < abqden@...> wrote:
Not all pi 3's are wireless.
I don't know if you've already solved the problem, but in case it's still an issue: when I hooked up a pi version 3 at your place using ethernet, I then plugged in your hdmi monitor and a keyboard and used the home screen (if you have a text prompt then type startx to get the home screen). In the upper right-hand corner is a network symbol and I clicked on it to launch the wi-fi setup. I was using the current raspbian setup, not an android installation. I don't know whether the pi I left there is a wired or a wireless. If that's the one you are using and it turns out to be wifi-less then I usually use a wireless usb dongle to add the wifi. I have a usb wireless dongle up here if you don't want to wait on an order.
Have you run sudo apt update and sudo apt full-upgrade -y to update Raspbian?
Also, is your wifi only the 5ghz band?? Pi 3B only supports 2.4ghz wifi
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On May 17, 2023, at 13:34, "WILLIAM D. via " < yahoo.com@ target=_blank>wa1emt=@> wrote:
Ok I need help.
Im new to the PI and I bought a new pi 3b.
I can put the android system on there but for some reason the wifi thats built in does not work. I installed android and got that running but the wifi just turns on then off. Ethernet connection works great but I cant use it as it has to be wireless.
Its going to run the app for my cameras that are all hooked to a DVR that has constant ethernet internet. Im trying to get the cameras on a monitor in another room.
The only issue I have is the wireless wont work and I know that has been an issue as so far I have read on the internet.
I can put an android OS on it or the Raspberry PI OS with the desktop with no issues. Just cant get the damn wireless to work.
Is there a wireless dongle that I can use and if so, which one and how do I put the drivers in for that.
Please help guys..I want to learn but nothing is working.
You can PM me of tag me in responses...Ill even pay for it.
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Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF
Allen
Mark K2EXE
Larry Dighera