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Re: Pineberry Pi SSD HATs
Hi David,
I ordered my Pi-5 kit very nearly 5 months ago.? Somebody should start a list of suppliers that are not reliable.? Perhaps the ARRL can take on this task.? Come to think of it, I've not seen a SparkFun ad in QST.??
John,? WoGN
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On 2024-01-28 12:59, David Ranch wrote:
I've been waiting on Sparkfun for three months now on an Rpi5-8GB kit and sent their support email list an email on Friday for a status as I'm getting very frustrated too.? While I got an automated email response, no real HUMAN reply yet.? I'll give them a few more days for a response or I'll cancel too.
--David
KI6ZHD
On 01/27/2024 07:32 PM, DavidC KD4E wrote:
I canceled my SparkFun order.
Got tired of waiting - while they show up for sale everywhere else.
The next time a buddy visits a MicroCenter in the Atlanta area,
he'll pick up a RPi 5 for me there.
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Ken,
I think there is a misunderstanding. This group is not specific to the Raspberry Pi-4. The title uses the number "4" instead of the word "for". Kind of like P2P for "Point-to-Point".
In my experience with this list, anything concerning any Raspberry Pi and ham radio is welcome.
I hope your project goes well.
73,
Michael WA7SKG
Kenneth R. van Wyk wrote on 1/28/24 4:06 AM:
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Okay, so I know this group focuses on Pi 4, but I’m seeing traffic about Pi 5 availability as well, so I hope it’s okay to assume the 5 is welcome here too? [Moderator: Kill my message if I’m incorrect.]
Like many, I’m working on a Pi 5 build. I currently have my 5 (8 Gb) running with the Pimoroni NVMe Base board and a 1 Tb Sabrent Rocket SSD. (RUNS GREAT!)
I’m hoping to be able to run VARA HF/FM on it using Box64 + Wine. Ultimately, my aim is to run my alternate NCS for Winlink Wednesdays using my Icom 7100 and a Raspberry Pi rig control computer.
I looked at was hoping it would be what I needed, but it doesn’t (yet?) support the 5.
So, being as patient as a sneeze, I set about to build Box64 and install Wine manually. I’ve been searching for a video and/or HOWTO to guide me a bit, though. Several exist for the 3 and the 4, but I’ve yet to find one for the 5.
Any tips, folks? I’m very comfortable on Linux, but a bit of Box64 + Wine voodoo would go a long way. Thanks and 73s, K0RvW.
Cheers,
Ken van Wyk
/Armata Scientia/
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From an application perspective, why would it care
if it's running on an Rpi5 vs. an Rpi4 (or any other ARM SBC)??
Looking a little further, it seems this script is looking for
specific known Raspberry Pi hardware and instead of just trying
it's best, if aborts.? There is a modified script in this thread
that attempts to fix it.? Maybe give that a try:
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--David
KI6ZHD
On 01/28/2024 04:06 AM, Kenneth R. van
Wyk wrote:
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Okay, so I know this group focuses on Pi 4, but I’m seeing traffic
about Pi 5 availability as well, so I hope it’s okay to assume the
5 is welcome here too? [Moderator: Kill my message if I’m
incorrect.]
Like many, I’m working on a Pi 5 build. I currently have my 5
(8 Gb) running with the Pimoroni NVMe Base board and a 1 Tb
Sabrent Rocket SSD. (RUNS GREAT!)
I’m hoping to be able to run VARA HF/FM on it using Box64 +
Wine. Ultimately, my aim is to run my alternate NCS for Winlink
Wednesdays using my Icom 7100 and a Raspberry Pi rig control
computer.
I looked at??and
was hoping it would be what I needed, but it doesn’t (yet?)
support the 5.
So, being as patient as a sneeze, I set about to build Box64
and install Wine manually. I’ve been searching for a video
and/or HOWTO to guide me a bit, though. Several exist for the 3
and the 4, but I’ve yet to find one for the 5.
Any tips, folks? I’m very comfortable on Linux, but a bit of
Box64 + Wine voodoo would go a long way. Thanks and 73s, K0RvW.
Cheers,
Ken van Wyk
Armata Scientia
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Okay, so I know this group focuses on Pi 4, but I’m seeing traffic about Pi 5 availability as well, so I hope it’s okay to assume the 5 is welcome here too? [Moderator: Kill my message if I’m incorrect.]
Like many, I’m working on a Pi 5 build. I currently have my 5 (8 Gb) running with the Pimoroni NVMe Base board and a 1 Tb Sabrent Rocket SSD. (RUNS GREAT!)
I’m hoping to be able to run VARA HF/FM on it using Box64 + Wine. Ultimately, my aim is to run my alternate NCS for Winlink Wednesdays using my Icom 7100 and a Raspberry Pi rig control computer.
I looked at??and was hoping it would be what I needed, but it doesn’t (yet?) support the 5.
So, being as patient as a sneeze, I set about to build Box64 and install Wine manually. I’ve been searching for a video and/or HOWTO to guide me a bit, though. Several exist for the 3 and the 4, but I’ve yet to find one for the 5.
Any tips, folks? I’m very comfortable on Linux, but a bit of Box64 + Wine voodoo would go a long way. Thanks and 73s, K0RvW.
Cheers,
Ken van Wyk Armata Scientia
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Re: Pineberry Pi SSD HATs
Pimoroni in the UK has RPI5s - 8GB and 4GB - in stock as well as an NVME SSD bottom hat they have developed.
I just received the 8GB RPi5 and the bottom hat last week.
Edd - KD5M
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Re: Pineberry Pi SSD HATs
I never got a response until I emailed them and told them it was fraud to have taken a pre-order and not shipped, when people that had ordered recently were receiving their Pi5's
Received a reply about 20 minutes after sending that email that my order was cancelled and money was returned to my card
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I've been waiting on Sparkfun for three months now on an Rpi5-8GB kit and sent their support email list an email on Friday for a status as I'm getting very frustrated too.? While I got an automated email response, no real HUMAN reply yet.? I'll give them a few more days for a response or I'll cancel too.
--David
KI6ZHD
On 01/27/2024 07:32 PM, DavidC KD4E wrote:
I canceled my SparkFun order.
Got tired of waiting - while they show up for sale everywhere else.
The next time a buddy visits a MicroCenter in the Atlanta area,
he'll pick up a RPi 5 for me there.
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The best I can tell, the Raspberry Pi 5 *only* supports an input
voltage of 5.1V.? It does not support the other USB-PD voltages like
9v, 12v, 15v, etc:
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?? Raspberry Pi 5 - 5V/5A, 5V/3A limits peripherals to 600mA
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?? The second is the Raspberry Pi 27W USB-C Power Supply, which
provides up to 5A current at +5.1V, and is the recommended supply
for Raspberry Pi 5.
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Unfortunately, the documentation leaves some of this up to
interpretation:
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?? The USB-PD standard allows higher voltages and currents to be
negotiated via software but requires an appropriate Power Management
Integrated Circuit (PMIC) which is only present on Raspberry Pi
5.
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This link cooberates that any other voltage than 5v is NOT
supported:
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?? The Raspberry Pi 5 will not negotiate higher voltages (such as 9v
or 12v) even though the power supply can provide it to other
devices.
?? --
--David
KI6ZHD
On 01/27/2024 06:49 PM, Michael WA7SKG
wrote:
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Gotta say, this thread has been entertaining. From
what I can tell, the RPi5 wants USB-C PD power. The "Official RPi5
Power Supply" provides PD (27W), but is a wall-wart only. The OP I
believe wanted something to run from 12V. So...
This takes 9-24VDC in and gives USB-A and USB-C/PD outputs. It is
hardwired in to whatever power source you have.
Chargeit! Mini 75W Dual Port USB-A & USB-C PD Charger w/ PPS
& QC4.0 Support
This is a cigarette lighter/power point plug in that gives
basically the same thing, a USB-A(QC 3.0) and a USB-C(PD) outputs.
USB C Car Charger 5 Pack,
I believe either one of these should power your RPi5. Personally,
I think I would go with the CoolGear item as it supports a higher
output (75W combined) than the Bangfun (20W) device.
Michael WA7SKG
Kelly K7MHI via groups.io wrote on 1/27/24 2:31 PM:
Sheesh haha this group …
??David have you found a 5a PD USB C yet
I have not found one yet - thanks for the tip on the POE hat
it’s not 13v but interesting - I could link you to the details I
was referencing but - I’m gonna walk on this thread
if I find something I will make sure to post it here we will
likely all watch some YouTuber post it at the same time hihi
happy field day all Kelly saying 73
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Re: Pineberry Pi SSD HATs
I've been waiting on Sparkfun for three months now
on an Rpi5-8GB kit and sent their support email list an email on
Friday for a status as I'm getting very frustrated too.? While I
got an automated email response, no real HUMAN reply yet.? I'll
give them a few more days for a response or I'll cancel too.
--David
KI6ZHD
On 01/27/2024 07:32 PM, DavidC KD4E
wrote:
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I canceled my SparkFun order.
Got tired of waiting - while they show up for sale everywhere
else.
The next time a buddy visits a MicroCenter in the Atlanta area,
he'll pick up a RPi 5 for me there.
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I ordered one and plugged it in - only spit out 3a confirmed with a PD inspection on the wire.?
they wanted a restocking fee to return it - email if you would like to buy it off me ;)?
I’m also waiting on this one?
in shipping to test it out?
k
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My 1st Pi5 runs off POE. Switch is plugged into a 1350VA UPS.
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I personally use a UPS for my Raspberry Pi 4 with 12 x 18650 batteries which gives me about 16 hours or more “load depending” of runtime.
Geekworm UPS and two battery hats. Look mum….. no wires…. Well not to a mains supply anyway.
This is the RPI5 equivalent?
These UPS hats just require a decent 5v 5amp supply to maintain a floating charge and a cheap 12v buck converter could easily take 12v and convert that to a 2.5mm DC jack and also provides additional USB Sockets for extra device power.
Typically you can stack up to 20 x 18650 in 4 extra battery hats, however, it will take days if not a week to charge that many cells in parallel.
I also own a few Nvidia Jetson Nanos too and they all have 12 x 18650 as the serve as light weight 24/7 online servers that are virtually crash proof.
De Spence M0STO
Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
On 28 Jan 2024, at 02:49, Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> wrote:
? Gotta say, this thread has been entertaining. From what I can tell, the RPi5 wants USB-C PD power. The "Official RPi5 Power Supply" provides PD (27W), but is a wall-wart only. The OP I believe wanted something to run from 12V. So...
This takes 9-24VDC in and gives USB-A and USB-C/PD outputs. It is hardwired in to whatever power source you have.
Chargeit! Mini 75W Dual Port USB-A & USB-C PD Charger w/ PPS & QC4.0 Support
https://www.coolgear.com/product/usb-power-delivery-60w-high-power-industrial-adapter-charger-ccg3pa
This is a cigarette lighter/power point plug in that gives basically the same thing, a USB-A(QC 3.0) and a USB-C(PD) outputs.
USB C Car Charger 5 Pack,
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Bangfun-Charging-Cigarette-Compatible/dp/B09R1J7G67/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=usb%2Bc%2B12v&qid=1706409705&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1
I believe either one of these should power your RPi5. Personally, I think I would go with the CoolGear item as it supports a higher output (75W combined) than the Bangfun (20W) device.
Michael WA7SKG
Kelly K7MHI via groups.io wrote on 1/27/24 2:31 PM:
Sheesh haha this group …
?David have you found a 5a PD USB C yet
I have not found one yet - thanks for the tip on the POE hat it’s not 13v but interesting - I could link you to the details I was referencing but - I’m gonna walk on this thread
if I find something I will make sure to post it here we will likely all watch some YouTuber post it at the same time hihi
happy field day all Kelly saying 73
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I'm curious where that information is and what model you are looking at.
They have a number of different models. The "Official RPi5 Power Supply" is rated for 27W to adequately run the computer. The CoolGear units smallest rated unit says 60W with other versions providing up to 140W. This is according to the User Manual.
Take a look at this one that provides 100W with 12-24V input (Model CG-PD100C):
Michael WA7SKG
Kelly K7MHI via groups.io wrote on 1/27/24 8:33 PM:
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Quick note Michael WA7SKG
that cool gear unit will not work - I have one here they limit to 3a
Michael WA7SKG - will check it out thanks
k
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I personally don’t own the latest version of the Geekworm hat for a RPI5 but the pi4 uses a small daughter board the slots on top of the GPIO pins with 5v, GND and perhaps the 3.3v and a couple of GPIO pins for sending shutdown signals (requires software). ?I did post an image of my pi but for some reason direct image links aren’t allowed.
I think 5v@5amp through test pins might be a bit iffy. I think more research needed into how the UPS mates to the PI5.
? In the past my Pi4 Sata shield used test point pins.
Here is a link to my PI4.
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Serious bit of kit.
De Spence M0STO
Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
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On 28 Jan 2024, at 04:54, Kelly K7MHI via groups.io <kellykeeton@...> wrote:
?will check that out?Spence M0STO,
do they power the pi via test point pins? The manual shows no other connectors?
will check that out?Spence M0STO,
do they power the pi via test point pins? The manual shows no other connectors?
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Quick note?Michael WA7SKG
that cool gear unit will not work - I have one here they limit to 3a?
Michael WA7SKG - will check it out thanks
k
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Sorry I just noticed the 2.5mm jack (can also use USB-C) looks like it can take up to 16vdc. Now that solves your problem and offers a fail safe too!!
De Spence M0STO
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On 28 Jan 2024, at 04:11, Spence M0STO via groups.io <unavailable.equal@...> wrote:
? I personally use a UPS for my Raspberry Pi 4 with 12 x 18650 batteries which gives me about 16 hours or more “load depending” of runtime.
Geekworm UPS and two battery hats. Look mum….. no wires…. Well not to a mains supply anyway.
This is the RPI5 equivalent?
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These UPS hats just require a decent 5v 5amp supply to maintain a floating charge and a cheap 12v buck converter could easily take 12v and convert that to a 2.5mm DC jack and also provides additional USB Sockets for extra device power.
Typically you can stack up to 20 x 18650 in 4 extra battery hats, however, it will take days if not a week to charge that many cells in parallel.
I also own a few Nvidia Jetson Nanos too and they all have 12 x 18650 as the serve as light weight 24/7 online servers that are virtually crash proof.
De Spence M0STO
Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
On 28 Jan 2024, at 02:49, Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> wrote:
?
Gotta say, this thread has been entertaining. From what I can tell, the RPi5 wants USB-C PD power. The "Official RPi5 Power Supply" provides PD (27W), but is a wall-wart only. The OP I believe wanted something to run from 12V. So...This takes 9-24VDC in and gives USB-A and USB-C/PD outputs. It is hardwired in to whatever power source you have.Chargeit! Mini 75W Dual Port USB-A & USB-C PD Charger w/ PPS & QC4.0 Supporthttps://www.coolgear.com/product/usb-power-delivery-60w-high-power-industrial-adapter-charger-ccg3paThis is a cigarette lighter/power point plug in that gives basically the same thing, a USB-A(QC 3.0) and a USB-C(PD) outputs.USB C Car Charger 5 Pack,https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Bangfun-Charging-Cigarette-Compatible/dp/B09R1J7G67/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=usb%2Bc%2B12v&qid=1706409705&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1I believe either one of these should power your RPi5. Personally, I think I would go with the CoolGear item as it supports a higher output (75W combined) than the Bangfun (20W) device.Michael WA7SKGKelly K7MHI via groups.io wrote on 1/27/24 2:31 PM:Sheesh haha this group …
?David have you found a 5a PD USB C yet
I have not found one yet - thanks for the tip on the POE hat it’s not 13v but interesting - I could link you to the details I was referencing but - I’m gonna walk on this thread
if I find something I will make sure to post it here we will likely all watch some YouTuber post it at the same time hihi
happy field day all Kelly saying 73
I personally use a UPS for my Raspberry Pi 4 with 12 x 18650 batteries which gives me about 16 hours or more “load depending” of runtime.
Geekworm UPS and two battery hats. Look mum….. no wires…. Well not to a mains supply anyway.
This is the RPI5 equivalent?
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These UPS hats just require a decent 5v 5amp supply to maintain a floating charge and a cheap 12v buck converter could easily take 12v and convert that to a 2.5mm DC jack and also provides additional USB Sockets for extra device power.
Typically you can stack up to 20 x 18650 in 4 extra battery hats, however, it will take days if not a week to charge that many cells in parallel.
I also own a few Nvidia Jetson Nanos too and they all have 12 x 18650 as the serve as light weight 24/7 online servers that are virtually crash proof.
De Spence M0STO
Sent while portable! please excuse typos.
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On 28 Jan 2024, at 02:49, Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> wrote:
?
Gotta say, this thread has been entertaining. From what I can tell, the RPi5 wants USB-C PD power. The "Official RPi5 Power Supply" provides PD (27W), but is a wall-wart only. The OP I believe wanted something to run from 12V. So...This takes 9-24VDC in and gives USB-A and USB-C/PD outputs. It is hardwired in to whatever power source you have.Chargeit! Mini 75W Dual Port USB-A & USB-C PD Charger w/ PPS & QC4.0 Supporthttps://www.coolgear.com/product/usb-power-delivery-60w-high-power-industrial-adapter-charger-ccg3paThis is a cigarette lighter/power point plug in that gives basically the same thing, a USB-A(QC 3.0) and a USB-C(PD) outputs.USB C Car Charger 5 Pack,https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Bangfun-Charging-Cigarette-Compatible/dp/B09R1J7G67/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=usb%2Bc%2B12v&qid=1706409705&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1I believe either one of these should power your RPi5. Personally, I think I would go with the CoolGear item as it supports a higher output (75W combined) than the Bangfun (20W) device.Michael WA7SKGKelly K7MHI via groups.io wrote on 1/27/24 2:31 PM:Sheesh haha this group …
?David have you found a 5a PD USB C yet
I have not found one yet - thanks for the tip on the POE hat it’s not 13v but interesting - I could link you to the details I was referencing but - I’m gonna walk on this thread
if I find something I will make sure to post it here we will likely all watch some YouTuber post it at the same time hihi
happy field day all Kelly saying 73
Re: Pineberry Pi SSD HATs
Keep checking ??
and both have the 4g and 8g Pi5's in stock.
I waited on sparkfun for almost 3 months before I cancelled the order.?
Every other retailer has been shipping as soon as they come in
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On Jan 27, 2024, at 19:32, DavidC KD4E < qrv@...> wrote:
I canceled my SparkFun order.
Got tired of waiting - while they show up for sale everywhere else.
The next time a buddy visits a MicroCenter in the Atlanta area,
he'll pick up a RPi 5 for me there.
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Re: Pineberry Pi SSD HATs
I canceled my SparkFun order.
Got tired of waiting - while they show up for sale everywhere else.
The next time a buddy visits a MicroCenter in the Atlanta area,
he'll pick up a RPi 5 for me there.
|
Gotta say, this thread has been entertaining. From what I can tell, the RPi5 wants USB-C PD power. The "Official RPi5 Power Supply" provides PD (27W), but is a wall-wart only. The OP I believe wanted something to run from 12V. So...
This takes 9-24VDC in and gives USB-A and USB-C/PD outputs. It is hardwired in to whatever power source you have.
Chargeit! Mini 75W Dual Port USB-A & USB-C PD Charger w/ PPS & QC4.0 Support
This is a cigarette lighter/power point plug in that gives basically the same thing, a USB-A(QC 3.0) and a USB-C(PD) outputs.
USB C Car Charger 5 Pack,
I believe either one of these should power your RPi5. Personally, I think I would go with the CoolGear item as it supports a higher output (75W combined) than the Bangfun (20W) device.
Michael WA7SKG
Kelly K7MHI via groups.io wrote on 1/27/24 2:31 PM:
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Sheesh haha this group …
?David have you found a 5a PD USB C yet
I have not found one yet - thanks for the tip on the POE hat it’s not 13v but interesting - I could link you to the details I was referencing but - I’m gonna walk on this thread
if I find something I will make sure to post it here we will likely all watch some YouTuber post it at the same time hihi
happy field day all Kelly saying 73
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I'm using the pi5 power supply. 5V 27W
It supports PD.? Here's a shot of its specs:
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Sheesh haha this group …?
?David have you found a 5a PD USB C yet?
I have not found one yet - thanks for the tip on the POE hat it’s not 13v but interesting - I could link you to the details I was referencing but - I’m gonna walk on this thread?
if I find something I will make sure to post it here we will likely all watch some YouTuber post it at the same time hihi?
happy field day all Kelly saying 73?
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Michael WA7SKG
Spence G5STO
DavidC KD4E
